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Question to Dan - installers? [message #2259] Sun, 07 January 2007 17:08 Go to next message
Henrik Lindberg is currently offline Henrik Lindberg
Messages: 112
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Dan,
in the conference call, we talked about the installers created by
Instantiation and the possibility that they might be of use in this project,
as well as used eleswehere with Eclipse technology as Buckminster. I am
really interested in learning more about the installers. Where can I read
more the installers?

- henrik
Re: Question to Dan - installers? [message #2289 is a reply to message #2259] Mon, 08 January 2007 20:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dan Rubel is currently offline Dan Rubel
Messages: 17
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Sorry for the delay. After the conference call I realized the sorry state of the
installer framework javadoc. We (Instantiations) use the installer to deliver
all of our Eclipse based products, and ship it as part of our RCP Developer
product for our customers to build installers. We have tutorials and web demos
on how to quickly assemble an installer, but not the in-depth javadoc necessary
to determine its suitability for EPP... so that's what I've been doing the past
couple of days. There's more to document, but I'll let newsgroup questions drive
what I need to document next.

The underlying question we (the Eclipse community) collectively are trying to
answer is the suitability of this installer framework to satisfy the initial
Eclipse installation experience as put forth by EPP. All questions, comments and
suggestions are most welcome.

The updated installer framework API documentation will be part of the next RCP
Developer beta, but you can start by reviewing the API online....

Installer Framework API docs
http://downloads.instantiations.com/RCPPackagerDoc/integrati on/latest/docs/html/reference/javadoc/overview-summary.html

.... and if so desired download and install RCP Developer (which includes RCP
Packager and the installer framework) and generate a Sample Installer to get a
better feel for how it all hangs together...

RCP Developer
http://www.instantiations.com/rcpdeveloper/index.html

RCP Developer Download
http://www.instantiations.com/rcpdeveloper/download.html

Web demos showing RCP Packager in action... links near the bottom of this page
http://www.instantiations.com/rcpdeveloper/demos.html

Introduction to RCP Packager (tools to quickly generate a basic installer):
http://downloads.instantiations.com/RCPPackagerDoc/integrati on/latest/docs/html/gettingstarted/packager.html

Creating a Sample RCP Application...
http://downloads.instantiations.com/RCPPackagerDoc/integrati on/latest/docs/html/gettingstarted/GenSample.html

.... and then Generating a basic installer for that Sample Application
http://downloads.instantiations.com/RCPPackagerDoc/integrati on/latest/docs/html/gettingstarted/GenInstaller.html


Henrik Lindberg wrote:
> Dan,
> in the conference call, we talked about the installers created by
> Instantiation and the possibility that they might be of use in this project,
> as well as used eleswehere with Eclipse technology as Buckminster. I am
> really interested in learning more about the installers. Where can I read
> more the installers?
>
> - henrik
>
>
Re: Question to Dan - installers? [message #2378 is a reply to message #2289] Wed, 10 January 2007 05:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Henrik Lindberg is currently offline Henrik Lindberg
Messages: 112
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Thanks Dan,
very helpful.

Regards
- henrik

"Dan Rubel" <dan_rubel@instantiations.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:enur93$nbk$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> Sorry for the delay. After the conference call I realized the sorry state
> of the installer framework javadoc. We (Instantiations) use the installer
> to deliver all of our Eclipse based products, and ship it as part of our
> RCP Developer product for our customers to build installers. We have
> tutorials and web demos on how to quickly assemble an installer, but not
> the in-depth javadoc necessary to determine its suitability for EPP... so
> that's what I've been doing the past couple of days. There's more to
> document, but I'll let newsgroup questions drive what I need to document
> next.
>
> The underlying question we (the Eclipse community) collectively are trying
> to answer is the suitability of this installer framework to satisfy the
> initial Eclipse installation experience as put forth by EPP. All
> questions, comments and suggestions are most welcome.
>
> The updated installer framework API documentation will be part of the next
> RCP Developer beta, but you can start by reviewing the API online....
>
> Installer Framework API docs
> http://downloads.instantiations.com/RCPPackagerDoc/integrati on/latest/docs/html/reference/javadoc/overview-summary.html
>
> ... and if so desired download and install RCP Developer (which includes
> RCP Packager and the installer framework) and generate a Sample Installer
> to get a better feel for how it all hangs together...
>
> RCP Developer
> http://www.instantiations.com/rcpdeveloper/index.html
>
> RCP Developer Download
> http://www.instantiations.com/rcpdeveloper/download.html
>
> Web demos showing RCP Packager in action... links near the bottom of this
> page
> http://www.instantiations.com/rcpdeveloper/demos.html
>
> Introduction to RCP Packager (tools to quickly generate a basic
> installer):
> http://downloads.instantiations.com/RCPPackagerDoc/integrati on/latest/docs/html/gettingstarted/packager.html
>
> Creating a Sample RCP Application...
> http://downloads.instantiations.com/RCPPackagerDoc/integrati on/latest/docs/html/gettingstarted/GenSample.html
>
> ... and then Generating a basic installer for that Sample Application
> http://downloads.instantiations.com/RCPPackagerDoc/integrati on/latest/docs/html/gettingstarted/GenInstaller.html
>
>
> Henrik Lindberg wrote:
>> Dan,
>> in the conference call, we talked about the installers created by
>> Instantiation and the possibility that they might be of use in this
>> project, as well as used eleswehere with Eclipse technology as
>> Buckminster. I am really interested in learning more about the
>> installers. Where can I read more the installers?
>>
>> - henrik
Re: Question to Dan - installers? [message #3848 is a reply to message #2289] Mon, 19 February 2007 09:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: ureupke.innoopract.com

Hello Dan,
I've just downloaded the RCP Packager / installer framework, and after
some initial problems with the user interface found my way to product
activation.
The registration process failed (email is already sent), and I was
wondering whether it might be because I use the Eclipse 3.3 milestone
stream.
Are there known problems? Your website doesn't yet list 3.3 as a
supported platform, so maybe I could save myself some troubles if I went
back to 3.2 for the installer-part of the project.

Regards
-Urs
Re: Question to Dan - installers? [message #4938 is a reply to message #3848] Thu, 01 March 2007 07:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dan Rubel is currently offline Dan Rubel
Messages: 17
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Urs Reupke wrote:
> Your website doesn't yet list 3.3 as a
> supported platform, so maybe I could save myself some troubles if I went
> back to 3.2 for the installer-part of the project.

We don't officially support 3.3 yet, but it should work.
Send me a test case if something is not working and I'll dig into it.

See you all at the EPP BOF.

- Dan
Re: Question to Dan - installers? [message #5007 is a reply to message #4938] Fri, 02 March 2007 01:01 Go to previous message
Urs Reupke is currently offline Urs Reupke
Messages: 8
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
> We don't officially support 3.3 yet, but it should work.
> Send me a test case if something is not working and I'll dig into it.
No problems encountered once I was past registration.

Have fun at EclipseCon
-Urs
Re: Question to Dan - installers? [message #572526 is a reply to message #2259] Mon, 08 January 2007 20:30 Go to previous message
Dan Rubel is currently offline Dan Rubel
Messages: 17
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Sorry for the delay. After the conference call I realized the sorry state of the
installer framework javadoc. We (Instantiations) use the installer to deliver
all of our Eclipse based products, and ship it as part of our RCP Developer
product for our customers to build installers. We have tutorials and web demos
on how to quickly assemble an installer, but not the in-depth javadoc necessary
to determine its suitability for EPP... so that's what I've been doing the past
couple of days. There's more to document, but I'll let newsgroup questions drive
what I need to document next.

The underlying question we (the Eclipse community) collectively are trying to
answer is the suitability of this installer framework to satisfy the initial
Eclipse installation experience as put forth by EPP. All questions, comments and
suggestions are most welcome.

The updated installer framework API documentation will be part of the next RCP
Developer beta, but you can start by reviewing the API online....

Installer Framework API docs
http://downloads.instantiations.com/RCPPackagerDoc/integrati on/latest/docs/html/reference/javadoc/overview-summary.html

.... and if so desired download and install RCP Developer (which includes RCP
Packager and the installer framework) and generate a Sample Installer to get a
better feel for how it all hangs together...

RCP Developer
http://www.instantiations.com/rcpdeveloper/index.html

RCP Developer Download
http://www.instantiations.com/rcpdeveloper/download.html

Web demos showing RCP Packager in action... links near the bottom of this page
http://www.instantiations.com/rcpdeveloper/demos.html

Introduction to RCP Packager (tools to quickly generate a basic installer):
http://downloads.instantiations.com/RCPPackagerDoc/integrati on/latest/docs/html/gettingstarted/packager.html

Creating a Sample RCP Application...
http://downloads.instantiations.com/RCPPackagerDoc/integrati on/latest/docs/html/gettingstarted/GenSample.html

.... and then Generating a basic installer for that Sample Application
http://downloads.instantiations.com/RCPPackagerDoc/integrati on/latest/docs/html/gettingstarted/GenInstaller.html


Henrik Lindberg wrote:
> Dan,
> in the conference call, we talked about the installers created by
> Instantiation and the possibility that they might be of use in this project,
> as well as used eleswehere with Eclipse technology as Buckminster. I am
> really interested in learning more about the installers. Where can I read
> more the installers?
>
> - henrik
>
>
Re: Question to Dan - installers? [message #572647 is a reply to message #2289] Wed, 10 January 2007 05:27 Go to previous message
Henrik Lindberg is currently offline Henrik Lindberg
Messages: 112
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Thanks Dan,
very helpful.

Regards
- henrik

"Dan Rubel" <dan_rubel@instantiations.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:enur93$nbk$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> Sorry for the delay. After the conference call I realized the sorry state
> of the installer framework javadoc. We (Instantiations) use the installer
> to deliver all of our Eclipse based products, and ship it as part of our
> RCP Developer product for our customers to build installers. We have
> tutorials and web demos on how to quickly assemble an installer, but not
> the in-depth javadoc necessary to determine its suitability for EPP... so
> that's what I've been doing the past couple of days. There's more to
> document, but I'll let newsgroup questions drive what I need to document
> next.
>
> The underlying question we (the Eclipse community) collectively are trying
> to answer is the suitability of this installer framework to satisfy the
> initial Eclipse installation experience as put forth by EPP. All
> questions, comments and suggestions are most welcome.
>
> The updated installer framework API documentation will be part of the next
> RCP Developer beta, but you can start by reviewing the API online....
>
> Installer Framework API docs
> http://downloads.instantiations.com/RCPPackagerDoc/integrati on/latest/docs/html/reference/javadoc/overview-summary.html
>
> ... and if so desired download and install RCP Developer (which includes
> RCP Packager and the installer framework) and generate a Sample Installer
> to get a better feel for how it all hangs together...
>
> RCP Developer
> http://www.instantiations.com/rcpdeveloper/index.html
>
> RCP Developer Download
> http://www.instantiations.com/rcpdeveloper/download.html
>
> Web demos showing RCP Packager in action... links near the bottom of this
> page
> http://www.instantiations.com/rcpdeveloper/demos.html
>
> Introduction to RCP Packager (tools to quickly generate a basic
> installer):
> http://downloads.instantiations.com/RCPPackagerDoc/integrati on/latest/docs/html/gettingstarted/packager.html
>
> Creating a Sample RCP Application...
> http://downloads.instantiations.com/RCPPackagerDoc/integrati on/latest/docs/html/gettingstarted/GenSample.html
>
> ... and then Generating a basic installer for that Sample Application
> http://downloads.instantiations.com/RCPPackagerDoc/integrati on/latest/docs/html/gettingstarted/GenInstaller.html
>
>
> Henrik Lindberg wrote:
>> Dan,
>> in the conference call, we talked about the installers created by
>> Instantiation and the possibility that they might be of use in this
>> project, as well as used eleswehere with Eclipse technology as
>> Buckminster. I am really interested in learning more about the
>> installers. Where can I read more the installers?
>>
>> - henrik
Re: Question to Dan - installers? [message #573624 is a reply to message #2289] Mon, 19 February 2007 09:59 Go to previous message
Urs Reupke is currently offline Urs Reupke
Messages: 8
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Hello Dan,
I've just downloaded the RCP Packager / installer framework, and after
some initial problems with the user interface found my way to product
activation.
The registration process failed (email is already sent), and I was
wondering whether it might be because I use the Eclipse 3.3 milestone
stream.
Are there known problems? Your website doesn't yet list 3.3 as a
supported platform, so maybe I could save myself some troubles if I went
back to 3.2 for the installer-part of the project.

Regards
-Urs
Re: Question to Dan - installers? [message #574347 is a reply to message #3848] Thu, 01 March 2007 07:36 Go to previous message
Dan Rubel is currently offline Dan Rubel
Messages: 17
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Urs Reupke wrote:
> Your website doesn't yet list 3.3 as a
> supported platform, so maybe I could save myself some troubles if I went
> back to 3.2 for the installer-part of the project.

We don't officially support 3.3 yet, but it should work.
Send me a test case if something is not working and I'll dig into it.

See you all at the EPP BOF.

- Dan
Re: Question to Dan - installers? [message #574375 is a reply to message #4938] Fri, 02 March 2007 01:01 Go to previous message
Urs Reupke is currently offline Urs Reupke
Messages: 8
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
> We don't officially support 3.3 yet, but it should work.
> Send me a test case if something is not working and I'll dig into it.
No problems encountered once I was past registration.

Have fun at EclipseCon
-Urs
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