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What's the relationship between SAFARI and IMP? [message #2202] Mon, 13 August 2007 04:31 Go to next message
Martin Oberhuber is currently offline Martin Oberhuber
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Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hello,

it's quite apparent to me that the proposed Eclipse IMP project is
related to the SAFARI tooling platform for language-specific IDE's,
which was a big success when being demonstrated at EclipseCon 2007:

http://www.eclipsecon.org/2007/index.php?page=sub/&id=37 59

At least, it's the same people behind the IMP propsal and behind SAFARI.
So, what's the relationship between SAFARI and IMP? And why isn't SAFARI
mentioned in the Project Proposal?

Thanks,
--
Martin Oberhuber
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
Re: What's the relationship between SAFARI and IMP? [message #2231 is a reply to message #2202] Mon, 13 August 2007 13:58 Go to previous message
Robert M. Fuhrer is currently offline Robert M. Fuhrer
Messages: 294
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Martin Oberhuber wrote:
> Hello,
>
> it's quite apparent to me that the proposed Eclipse IMP project is
> related to the SAFARI tooling platform for language-specific IDE's,
> which was a big success when being demonstrated at EclipseCon 2007:
>
> http://www.eclipsecon.org/2007/index.php?page=sub/&id=37 59
>
> At least, it's the same people behind the IMP propsal and behind SAFARI.
> So, what's the relationship between SAFARI and IMP? And why isn't SAFARI
> mentioned in the Project Proposal?

Hi there,

Yes, it's the same people behind SAFARI and the Eclipse IMP (us) :-), and
it's essentially intended to be a continuation and expansion of that effort
into the Eclipse open-source community. We've gotten a lot of interest over
the last year from people wanting to use IMP to build IDEs as well as people
wanting to extend it.

Due to the obvious name clash with the Apple web browser, however, we were
forced to rename the project. So, the new name is "The Eclipse IDE Meta-tooling
Platform", "The Eclipse IMP", or just "IMP".

The only other "difference" between SAFARI and the Eclipse IMP is that we're
offering to seed the Eclipse IMP project with the SAFARI code base, but that's
not a requirement for the creation of the Eclipse IMP project on eclipse.org.
So although it seems unlikely that the Eclipse IMP wouldn't use the SAFARI
code base as the starting point, it's theoretically possible.

Cheers,
- Bob
=========================
Robert M. Fuhrer
IMP/SAFARI Project Lead
Program Analysis and Transformation Group
IBM Watson Research Center
Re: What's the relationship between SAFARI and IMP? [message #565641 is a reply to message #2202] Mon, 13 August 2007 13:58 Go to previous message
Robert M. Fuhrer is currently offline Robert M. Fuhrer
Messages: 294
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Martin Oberhuber wrote:
> Hello,
>
> it's quite apparent to me that the proposed Eclipse IMP project is
> related to the SAFARI tooling platform for language-specific IDE's,
> which was a big success when being demonstrated at EclipseCon 2007:
>
> http://www.eclipsecon.org/2007/index.php?page=sub/&id=37 59
>
> At least, it's the same people behind the IMP propsal and behind SAFARI.
> So, what's the relationship between SAFARI and IMP? And why isn't SAFARI
> mentioned in the Project Proposal?

Hi there,

Yes, it's the same people behind SAFARI and the Eclipse IMP (us) :-), and
it's essentially intended to be a continuation and expansion of that effort
into the Eclipse open-source community. We've gotten a lot of interest over
the last year from people wanting to use IMP to build IDEs as well as people
wanting to extend it.

Due to the obvious name clash with the Apple web browser, however, we were
forced to rename the project. So, the new name is "The Eclipse IDE Meta-tooling
Platform", "The Eclipse IMP", or just "IMP".

The only other "difference" between SAFARI and the Eclipse IMP is that we're
offering to seed the Eclipse IMP project with the SAFARI code base, but that's
not a requirement for the creation of the Eclipse IMP project on eclipse.org.
So although it seems unlikely that the Eclipse IMP wouldn't use the SAFARI
code base as the starting point, it's theoretically possible.

Cheers,
- Bob
=========================
Robert M. Fuhrer
IMP/SAFARI Project Lead
Program Analysis and Transformation Group
IBM Watson Research Center
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