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Thread from STP Group [message #200661] Thu, 27 September 2007 08:07 Go to next message
Mark Walker is currently offline Mark Walker
Messages: 2
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
A few of us in the STP group were discussing whether WSDL2Java and Java2WSDL
should be a common, emf based tool.
Any thoughts?

> I think that it would be advantageous the WTP guys on board, perhaps
> we could forward this thread (this sub-section) to them and see if
> they bite?
Go for it Mark - just send them a link to the thread in the message archive
http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/stp-dev/msg00986.html
and see what they think :)
cheers
--oh

Ciao,
Mark Walker,
Technical Architect (Tools),
Ubiquity Software (Avaya UK),
Cardiff

"It takes less time to do a thing right than to explain why you did it
wrong."
-- H. W. Longfellow.
Re: Thread from STP Group [message #200694 is a reply to message #200661] Thu, 27 September 2007 14:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mark,

This seems like a particularly timely question given the call for a vote
to create the Servus component in EMFT:

http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/emft-dev/msg00126.html

I've also been trying to get a start on a WSDL 2.0 model (in my
non-copious spare time). A rough prototype for this is attached to

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=198247

I'll add STP to the list of newsgroups I monitor (to further eat into my
non-copious spare time)....

I think the web services world is ripe for doing something to bring a
bit of order and simplicity back into the out-of-control chaotic
complexity that's threatening to sink the overloaded boat. I was
pleasantly shocked to discover how very trivial it was to implement the
little servlet that I needed so I could test HTTP PUT support for the
URI converter changes that I've been prototyping:
<https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=191077>

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=191077

I'm hoping to commit these changes before heading out to Eclipse Summit
Europe... I'm pretty excited about these changes because I think it
helps complete EMF's REST-ful story and will improve the ability to
redirect all resource access to any arbitrary backing store. Of course
feedback at this stage of the design would be *greatly *appreciated!


Mark Walker wrote:
> A few of us in the STP group were discussing whether WSDL2Java and Java2WSDL
> should be a common, emf based tool.
> Any thoughts?
>
>
>> I think that it would be advantageous the WTP guys on board, perhaps
>> we could forward this thread (this sub-section) to them and see if
>> they bite?
>>
> Go for it Mark - just send them a link to the thread in the message archive
> http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/stp-dev/msg00986.html
> and see what they think :)
> cheers
> --oh
>
> Ciao,
> Mark Walker,
> Technical Architect (Tools),
> Ubiquity Software (Avaya UK),
> Cardiff
>
> "It takes less time to do a thing right than to explain why you did it
> wrong."
> -- H. W. Longfellow.
>
>
>


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Mark,<br>
<br>
This seems like a particularly timely question given the call for a
vote to create the Servus component in EMFT:<br>
<blockquote><a
href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/emft-dev/msg00126.html">http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/emft-dev/msg00126.html</a><br>
</blockquote>
I've also been trying to get a start on a WSDL 2.0 model (in my
non-copious spare time).&nbsp; A rough prototype for this is attached to<br>
<blockquote><a
href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=198247">https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=198247</a><br>
</blockquote>
I'll add STP to the list of newsgroups I monitor (to further eat into
my non-copious spare time)....<br>
<br>
I think the web services world is ripe for doing something to bring a
bit of order and simplicity back into the out-of-control chaotic
complexity that's threatening to sink the overloaded boat.&nbsp; I was
pleasantly shocked to discover how very trivial it was to implement the
little servlet that I needed so I could test HTTP PUT support for the
URI converter changes that I've been prototyping:<a
href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=191077"><br>
</a>
<blockquote><a
href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=191077">https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=191077</a><br>
</blockquote>
I'm hoping to commit these changes before heading out to Eclipse Summit
Europe... I'm pretty excited about these changes because I think it
helps complete EMF's REST-ful story and will improve the ability to
redirect all resource access to any arbitrary backing store.&nbsp; Of course
feedback at this stage of the design would be <b>greatly </b>appreciated!<br>
<br>
<br>
Mark Walker wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:fdfocb$45e$1@build.eclipse.org" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">A few of us in the STP group were discussing whether WSDL2Java and Java2WSDL
should be a common, emf based tool.
Any thoughts?

</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">I think that it would be advantageous the WTP guys on board, perhaps
we could forward this thread (this sub-section) to them and see if
they bite?
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->Go for it Mark - just send them a link to the thread in the message archive
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/stp-dev/msg00986.html">http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/stp-dev/msg00986.html</a>
and see what they think :)
cheers
--oh

Ciao,
Mark Walker,
Technical Architect (Tools),
Ubiquity Software (Avaya UK),
Cardiff

"It takes less time to do a thing right than to explain why you did it
wrong."
-- H. W. Longfellow.


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Re: Thread from STP Group [message #200708 is a reply to message #200661] Fri, 28 September 2007 01:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Craig Salter is currently offline Craig Salter
Messages: 169
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Mark,

I'm curious to understand what kind of Java you'd like to generate from
your WSDL? Are you saying the tool should be implemented in EMF (using
the EMF WSDL and XSD model) or are you saying it should generated EMF
based Java code? Or maybe both?

Java comes in so many flavours (POJO, SDO, JAXB, XMLBean, EMF, etc.) it'd
be good to understand what you're after. There's so many technologies in
this cluttered space already it'd be nice to understand what a new effort
would achieve that the others do not.


Mark Walker wrote:

> A few of us in the STP group were discussing whether WSDL2Java and Java2WSDL
> should be a common, emf based tool.
> Any thoughts?

>> I think that it would be advantageous the WTP guys on board, perhaps
>> we could forward this thread (this sub-section) to them and see if
>> they bite?
> Go for it Mark - just send them a link to the thread in the message archive
> http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/stp-dev/msg00986.html
> and see what they think :)
> cheers
> --oh

> Ciao,
> Mark Walker,
> Technical Architect (Tools),
> Ubiquity Software (Avaya UK),
> Cardiff

> "It takes less time to do a thing right than to explain why you did it
> wrong."
> -- H. W. Longfellow.
Re: Thread from STP Group [message #200714 is a reply to message #200708] Fri, 28 September 2007 13:11 Go to previous message
David Carver is currently offline David Carver
Messages: 174
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
craig wrote:
> Mark,
>
> I'm curious to understand what kind of Java you'd like to generate from
> your WSDL? Are you saying the tool should be implemented in EMF (using
> the EMF WSDL and XSD model) or are you saying it should generated EMF
> based Java code? Or maybe both?
>
> Java comes in so many flavours (POJO, SDO, JAXB, XMLBean, EMF, etc.)
> it'd be good to understand what you're after. There's so many
> technologies in this cluttered space already it'd be nice to understand
> what a new effort would achieve that the others do not.
>

Another bug or feature to keep an eye on in the EMF->XSD group is Ed
Merks work on modeling WSDL 2.0 by extending the XSD model.

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=198247

Ed's already done some good work on coming up with a preliminary model
for WSDL in EMF.
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