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Server is always "Starting..." [message #193986] Tue, 05 June 2007 21:38 Go to next message
Noel Bush is currently offline Noel Bush
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I have a Tomcat 5.5 server config and a single web app project assigned
to it. Everything was fine until today, but now whenever I start the
application, the status shows "Starting..." forever. I can use the web
application, but if I change a file, it doesn't publish -- I assume this
is because Eclipse/WTP thinks the app is still "Starting...". How can I
diagnose this? I've already tried restarting Eclipse with -clean,
deleting the server config and recreating it, even restarting the
computer (just for fun).

Ideas?

This is Eclipse 3.2, WTP 1.5.4.

Thanks in advance,
Noel
Re: Server is always "Starting..." [message #194018 is a reply to message #193986] Wed, 06 June 2007 01:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Noel Bush is currently offline Noel Bush
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One additional note (sorry to reply to self) -- it seems that this
problem started after I first ran the project in Debug mode. I've tried
cleaning the project and rebuilding, but this problem persists. It's
really a drag.

Noel Bush wrote on 06/05/2007 05:38 PM:
> I have a Tomcat 5.5 server config and a single web app project assigned
> to it. Everything was fine until today, but now whenever I start the
> application, the status shows "Starting..." forever. I can use the web
> application, but if I change a file, it doesn't publish -- I assume this
> is because Eclipse/WTP thinks the app is still "Starting...". How can I
> diagnose this? I've already tried restarting Eclipse with -clean,
> deleting the server config and recreating it, even restarting the
> computer (just for fun).
>
> Ideas?
>
> This is Eclipse 3.2, WTP 1.5.4.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Noel
Re: Server is always "Starting..." [message #194051 is a reply to message #194018] Wed, 06 June 2007 12:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry Isaacs is currently offline Larry Isaacs
Messages: 1310
Registered: July 2009
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By "Debug mode", do you mean the "Debug on server" command or the
"Enable Tomcat Debug mode (v4.x and above only)" checkbox in the server
editor?

Cheers,
Larry

Noel Bush wrote:
> One additional note (sorry to reply to self) -- it seems that this
> problem started after I first ran the project in Debug mode. I've tried
> cleaning the project and rebuilding, but this problem persists. It's
> really a drag.
>
> Noel Bush wrote on 06/05/2007 05:38 PM:
>> I have a Tomcat 5.5 server config and a single web app project
>> assigned to it. Everything was fine until today, but now whenever I
>> start the application, the status shows "Starting..." forever. I can
>> use the web application, but if I change a file, it doesn't publish --
>> I assume this is because Eclipse/WTP thinks the app is still
>> "Starting...". How can I diagnose this? I've already tried
>> restarting Eclipse with -clean, deleting the server config and
>> recreating it, even restarting the computer (just for fun).
>>
>> Ideas?
>>
>> This is Eclipse 3.2, WTP 1.5.4.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Noel
Re: Server is always "Starting..." [message #194075 is a reply to message #194051] Wed, 06 June 2007 14:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Noel Bush is currently offline Noel Bush
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Sorry, by "Debug mode" I meant Run > Debug...

More on this: I have found that by recreating my workspace and
re-checking out this project from my svn repo, I was able to eliminate
the bad behavior for a few hours (last night). But this morning, after
starting up Eclipse again, I'm seeing the same frustrating behavior.

This is really problematic, because every time I make the smallest
change to any file -- even a .js or .css or other static file -- I have
to stop the server and restart it to get the publish to take effect.

Thanks,
Noel

Larry Isaacs wrote on 06/06/2007 08:35 AM:
> By "Debug mode", do you mean the "Debug on server" command or the
> "Enable Tomcat Debug mode (v4.x and above only)" checkbox in the server
> editor?
>
> Cheers,
> Larry
>
> Noel Bush wrote:
>> One additional note (sorry to reply to self) -- it seems that this
>> problem started after I first ran the project in Debug mode. I've
>> tried cleaning the project and rebuilding, but this problem persists.
>> It's really a drag.
>>
>> Noel Bush wrote on 06/05/2007 05:38 PM:
>>> I have a Tomcat 5.5 server config and a single web app project
>>> assigned to it. Everything was fine until today, but now whenever I
>>> start the application, the status shows "Starting..." forever. I can
>>> use the web application, but if I change a file, it doesn't publish
>>> -- I assume this is because Eclipse/WTP thinks the app is still
>>> "Starting...". How can I diagnose this? I've already tried
>>> restarting Eclipse with -clean, deleting the server config and
>>> recreating it, even restarting the computer (just for fun).
>>>
>>> Ideas?
>>>
>>> This is Eclipse 3.2, WTP 1.5.4.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Noel
Re: Server is always "Starting..." [message #194083 is a reply to message #194075] Wed, 06 June 2007 15:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry Isaacs is currently offline Larry Isaacs
Messages: 1310
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
This isn't something I'm currently able to duplicate, so I'm left to
asking questions and/or guessing. You mention having to stop and
restart the server. Does this mean you are not seeing the server's
Status in the Servers view still sticking on ""Starting..."?

In theory, when you save a static file, the server's State in the
Servers view should briefly switch from Synchronized and then return to
Synchronized when the change has been auto-published. Is this
happening? If so, can you see the changed file in the running Tomcat?
To determine where catalina.base is pointing, see:

http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/faq/TomcatServerFAQ.php#info _04

Your webapp should appear under the "webapps" folder at this location.

Cheers,
Larry

Noel Bush wrote:
> Sorry, by "Debug mode" I meant Run > Debug...
>
> More on this: I have found that by recreating my workspace and
> re-checking out this project from my svn repo, I was able to eliminate
> the bad behavior for a few hours (last night). But this morning, after
> starting up Eclipse again, I'm seeing the same frustrating behavior.
>
> This is really problematic, because every time I make the smallest
> change to any file -- even a .js or .css or other static file -- I have
> to stop the server and restart it to get the publish to take effect.
>
> Thanks,
> Noel
>
> Larry Isaacs wrote on 06/06/2007 08:35 AM:
>> By "Debug mode", do you mean the "Debug on server" command or the
>> "Enable Tomcat Debug mode (v4.x and above only)" checkbox in the
>> server editor?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Larry
>>
>> Noel Bush wrote:
>>> One additional note (sorry to reply to self) -- it seems that this
>>> problem started after I first ran the project in Debug mode. I've
>>> tried cleaning the project and rebuilding, but this problem
>>> persists. It's really a drag.
>>>
>>> Noel Bush wrote on 06/05/2007 05:38 PM:
>>>> I have a Tomcat 5.5 server config and a single web app project
>>>> assigned to it. Everything was fine until today, but now whenever I
>>>> start the application, the status shows "Starting..." forever. I
>>>> can use the web application, but if I change a file, it doesn't
>>>> publish -- I assume this is because Eclipse/WTP thinks the app is
>>>> still "Starting...". How can I diagnose this? I've already tried
>>>> restarting Eclipse with -clean, deleting the server config and
>>>> recreating it, even restarting the computer (just for fun).
>>>>
>>>> Ideas?
>>>>
>>>> This is Eclipse 3.2, WTP 1.5.4.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Noel
Re: Server is always "Starting..." [message #194091 is a reply to message #194083] Wed, 06 June 2007 15:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Noel Bush is currently offline Noel Bush
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Registered: July 2009
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Thanks for your replies. No, I am still seeing the server's Status in
the Servers view sticking on "Starting...". The behavior you describe
about what happens when I change a static file doesn't happen -- it's
just permanently on "Starting...". And when I look in the
catalina.base, I don't see the changed file.

I am giving things a try with WTP 2.0RC2 now. If the issue doesn't
recur there I won't pursue it with 1.5.4.

Thank you again,
Noel

Larry Isaacs wrote on 06/06/2007 11:03 AM:
> This isn't something I'm currently able to duplicate, so I'm left to
> asking questions and/or guessing. You mention having to stop and
> restart the server. Does this mean you are not seeing the server's
> Status in the Servers view still sticking on ""Starting..."?
>
> In theory, when you save a static file, the server's State in the
> Servers view should briefly switch from Synchronized and then return to
> Synchronized when the change has been auto-published. Is this
> happening? If so, can you see the changed file in the running Tomcat?
> To determine where catalina.base is pointing, see:
>
> http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/faq/TomcatServerFAQ.php#info _04
>
> Your webapp should appear under the "webapps" folder at this location.
>
> Cheers,
> Larry
>
> Noel Bush wrote:
>> Sorry, by "Debug mode" I meant Run > Debug...
>>
>> More on this: I have found that by recreating my workspace and
>> re-checking out this project from my svn repo, I was able to eliminate
>> the bad behavior for a few hours (last night). But this morning,
>> after starting up Eclipse again, I'm seeing the same frustrating
>> behavior.
>>
>> This is really problematic, because every time I make the smallest
>> change to any file -- even a .js or .css or other static file -- I
>> have to stop the server and restart it to get the publish to take effect.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Noel
>>
>> Larry Isaacs wrote on 06/06/2007 08:35 AM:
>>> By "Debug mode", do you mean the "Debug on server" command or the
>>> "Enable Tomcat Debug mode (v4.x and above only)" checkbox in the
>>> server editor?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> Noel Bush wrote:
>>>> One additional note (sorry to reply to self) -- it seems that this
>>>> problem started after I first ran the project in Debug mode. I've
>>>> tried cleaning the project and rebuilding, but this problem
>>>> persists. It's really a drag.
>>>>
>>>> Noel Bush wrote on 06/05/2007 05:38 PM:
>>>>> I have a Tomcat 5.5 server config and a single web app project
>>>>> assigned to it. Everything was fine until today, but now whenever
>>>>> I start the application, the status shows "Starting..." forever. I
>>>>> can use the web application, but if I change a file, it doesn't
>>>>> publish -- I assume this is because Eclipse/WTP thinks the app is
>>>>> still "Starting...". How can I diagnose this? I've already tried
>>>>> restarting Eclipse with -clean, deleting the server config and
>>>>> recreating it, even restarting the computer (just for fun).
>>>>>
>>>>> Ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> This is Eclipse 3.2, WTP 1.5.4.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>> Noel
Re: Server is always "Starting..." [message #194114 is a reply to message #194091] Wed, 06 June 2007 18:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry Isaacs is currently offline Larry Isaacs
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Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
At this point, I would guess that the server not reaching the "Started"
Status is interfering with publishing the static file changes. It would
seem the "ping" test that tries to determine when the server is ready to
serve requests isn't succeeding for some unknown reason. I'm not aware
of any changes in WTP 2.0 that would affect this kind of issue, but who
knows. Let us know how it turns out.

Larry

Noel Bush wrote:
> Thanks for your replies. No, I am still seeing the server's Status in
> the Servers view sticking on "Starting...". The behavior you describe
> about what happens when I change a static file doesn't happen -- it's
> just permanently on "Starting...". And when I look in the
> catalina.base, I don't see the changed file.
>
> I am giving things a try with WTP 2.0RC2 now. If the issue doesn't
> recur there I won't pursue it with 1.5.4.
>
> Thank you again,
> Noel
>
> Larry Isaacs wrote on 06/06/2007 11:03 AM:
>> This isn't something I'm currently able to duplicate, so I'm left to
>> asking questions and/or guessing. You mention having to stop and
>> restart the server. Does this mean you are not seeing the server's
>> Status in the Servers view still sticking on ""Starting..."?
>>
>> In theory, when you save a static file, the server's State in the
>> Servers view should briefly switch from Synchronized and then return
>> to Synchronized when the change has been auto-published. Is this
>> happening? If so, can you see the changed file in the running Tomcat?
>> To determine where catalina.base is pointing, see:
>>
>> http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/faq/TomcatServerFAQ.php#info _04
>>
>> Your webapp should appear under the "webapps" folder at this location.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Larry
>>
>> Noel Bush wrote:
>>> Sorry, by "Debug mode" I meant Run > Debug...
>>>
>>> More on this: I have found that by recreating my workspace and
>>> re-checking out this project from my svn repo, I was able to
>>> eliminate the bad behavior for a few hours (last night). But this
>>> morning, after starting up Eclipse again, I'm seeing the same
>>> frustrating behavior.
>>>
>>> This is really problematic, because every time I make the smallest
>>> change to any file -- even a .js or .css or other static file -- I
>>> have to stop the server and restart it to get the publish to take
>>> effect.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Noel
>>>
>>> Larry Isaacs wrote on 06/06/2007 08:35 AM:
>>>> By "Debug mode", do you mean the "Debug on server" command or the
>>>> "Enable Tomcat Debug mode (v4.x and above only)" checkbox in the
>>>> server editor?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>> Noel Bush wrote:
>>>>> One additional note (sorry to reply to self) -- it seems that this
>>>>> problem started after I first ran the project in Debug mode. I've
>>>>> tried cleaning the project and rebuilding, but this problem
>>>>> persists. It's really a drag.
>>>>>
>>>>> Noel Bush wrote on 06/05/2007 05:38 PM:
>>>>>> I have a Tomcat 5.5 server config and a single web app project
>>>>>> assigned to it. Everything was fine until today, but now whenever
>>>>>> I start the application, the status shows "Starting..." forever.
>>>>>> I can use the web application, but if I change a file, it doesn't
>>>>>> publish -- I assume this is because Eclipse/WTP thinks the app is
>>>>>> still "Starting...". How can I diagnose this? I've already tried
>>>>>> restarting Eclipse with -clean, deleting the server config and
>>>>>> recreating it, even restarting the computer (just for fun).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is Eclipse 3.2, WTP 1.5.4.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>> Noel
Re: Server is always "Starting..." [message #197908 is a reply to message #194114] Fri, 03 August 2007 19:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Noel Bush is currently offline Noel Bush
Messages: 38
Registered: July 2009
Member
When I upgraded to WTP 2.0, this problem went away. Until today. It
seems to have started just after I install oXygenXML. I'm using Europa,
with all current updates.

You mentioned a "ping" test -- what precisely does that do, and how
could I check whether/why it's failing?

Thanks,
Noel

Larry Isaacs wrote on 06/06/2007 02:10 PM:
> At this point, I would guess that the server not reaching the "Started"
> Status is interfering with publishing the static file changes. It would
> seem the "ping" test that tries to determine when the server is ready to
> serve requests isn't succeeding for some unknown reason. I'm not aware
> of any changes in WTP 2.0 that would affect this kind of issue, but who
> knows. Let us know how it turns out.
>
> Larry
>
> Noel Bush wrote:
>> Thanks for your replies. No, I am still seeing the server's Status in
>> the Servers view sticking on "Starting...". The behavior you describe
>> about what happens when I change a static file doesn't happen -- it's
>> just permanently on "Starting...". And when I look in the
>> catalina.base, I don't see the changed file.
>>
>> I am giving things a try with WTP 2.0RC2 now. If the issue doesn't
>> recur there I won't pursue it with 1.5.4.
>>
>> Thank you again,
>> Noel
>>
>> Larry Isaacs wrote on 06/06/2007 11:03 AM:
>>> This isn't something I'm currently able to duplicate, so I'm left to
>>> asking questions and/or guessing. You mention having to stop and
>>> restart the server. Does this mean you are not seeing the server's
>>> Status in the Servers view still sticking on ""Starting..."?
>>>
>>> In theory, when you save a static file, the server's State in the
>>> Servers view should briefly switch from Synchronized and then return
>>> to Synchronized when the change has been auto-published. Is this
>>> happening? If so, can you see the changed file in the running
>>> Tomcat? To determine where catalina.base is pointing, see:
>>>
>>> http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/faq/TomcatServerFAQ.php#info _04
>>>
>>> Your webapp should appear under the "webapps" folder at this location.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> Noel Bush wrote:
>>>> Sorry, by "Debug mode" I meant Run > Debug...
>>>>
>>>> More on this: I have found that by recreating my workspace and
>>>> re-checking out this project from my svn repo, I was able to
>>>> eliminate the bad behavior for a few hours (last night). But this
>>>> morning, after starting up Eclipse again, I'm seeing the same
>>>> frustrating behavior.
>>>>
>>>> This is really problematic, because every time I make the smallest
>>>> change to any file -- even a .js or .css or other static file -- I
>>>> have to stop the server and restart it to get the publish to take
>>>> effect.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Noel
>>>>
>>>> Larry Isaacs wrote on 06/06/2007 08:35 AM:
>>>>> By "Debug mode", do you mean the "Debug on server" command or the
>>>>> "Enable Tomcat Debug mode (v4.x and above only)" checkbox in the
>>>>> server editor?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Larry
>>>>>
>>>>> Noel Bush wrote:
>>>>>> One additional note (sorry to reply to self) -- it seems that this
>>>>>> problem started after I first ran the project in Debug mode. I've
>>>>>> tried cleaning the project and rebuilding, but this problem
>>>>>> persists. It's really a drag.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Noel Bush wrote on 06/05/2007 05:38 PM:
>>>>>>> I have a Tomcat 5.5 server config and a single web app project
>>>>>>> assigned to it. Everything was fine until today, but now
>>>>>>> whenever I start the application, the status shows "Starting..."
>>>>>>> forever. I can use the web application, but if I change a file,
>>>>>>> it doesn't publish -- I assume this is because Eclipse/WTP thinks
>>>>>>> the app is still "Starting...". How can I diagnose this? I've
>>>>>>> already tried restarting Eclipse with -clean, deleting the server
>>>>>>> config and recreating it, even restarting the computer (just for
>>>>>>> fun).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is Eclipse 3.2, WTP 1.5.4.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>> Noel
Re: Server is always "Starting..." [message #197916 is a reply to message #197908] Fri, 03 August 2007 19:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Noel Bush is currently offline Noel Bush
Messages: 38
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Member
Disabling oXygenXML makes this problem go away.

I should file a bug with oXygen. Any tips on what I should direct them
to be looking at? Anything I could possibly do to stop oXygen from
interfering with Eclipse knowing that my Tomcat server has successfully
started up?

Thanks again,
Noel

Noel Bush wrote on 08/03/2007 03:04 PM:
> When I upgraded to WTP 2.0, this problem went away. Until today. It
> seems to have started just after I install oXygenXML. I'm using Europa,
> with all current updates.
>
> You mentioned a "ping" test -- what precisely does that do, and how
> could I check whether/why it's failing?
>
> Thanks,
> Noel
>
> Larry Isaacs wrote on 06/06/2007 02:10 PM:
>> At this point, I would guess that the server not reaching the
>> "Started" Status is interfering with publishing the static file
>> changes. It would seem the "ping" test that tries to determine when
>> the server is ready to serve requests isn't succeeding for some
>> unknown reason. I'm not aware of any changes in WTP 2.0 that would
>> affect this kind of issue, but who knows. Let us know how it turns out.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> Noel Bush wrote:
>>> Thanks for your replies. No, I am still seeing the server's Status
>>> in the Servers view sticking on "Starting...". The behavior you
>>> describe about what happens when I change a static file doesn't
>>> happen -- it's just permanently on "Starting...". And when I look in
>>> the catalina.base, I don't see the changed file.
>>>
>>> I am giving things a try with WTP 2.0RC2 now. If the issue doesn't
>>> recur there I won't pursue it with 1.5.4.
>>>
>>> Thank you again,
>>> Noel
>>>
>>> Larry Isaacs wrote on 06/06/2007 11:03 AM:
>>>> This isn't something I'm currently able to duplicate, so I'm left to
>>>> asking questions and/or guessing. You mention having to stop and
>>>> restart the server. Does this mean you are not seeing the server's
>>>> Status in the Servers view still sticking on ""Starting..."?
>>>>
>>>> In theory, when you save a static file, the server's State in the
>>>> Servers view should briefly switch from Synchronized and then return
>>>> to Synchronized when the change has been auto-published. Is this
>>>> happening? If so, can you see the changed file in the running
>>>> Tomcat? To determine where catalina.base is pointing, see:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/faq/TomcatServerFAQ.php#info _04
>>>>
>>>> Your webapp should appear under the "webapps" folder at this location.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>> Noel Bush wrote:
>>>>> Sorry, by "Debug mode" I meant Run > Debug...
>>>>>
>>>>> More on this: I have found that by recreating my workspace and
>>>>> re-checking out this project from my svn repo, I was able to
>>>>> eliminate the bad behavior for a few hours (last night). But this
>>>>> morning, after starting up Eclipse again, I'm seeing the same
>>>>> frustrating behavior.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is really problematic, because every time I make the smallest
>>>>> change to any file -- even a .js or .css or other static file -- I
>>>>> have to stop the server and restart it to get the publish to take
>>>>> effect.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Noel
>>>>>
>>>>> Larry Isaacs wrote on 06/06/2007 08:35 AM:
>>>>>> By "Debug mode", do you mean the "Debug on server" command or the
>>>>>> "Enable Tomcat Debug mode (v4.x and above only)" checkbox in the
>>>>>> server editor?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Noel Bush wrote:
>>>>>>> One additional note (sorry to reply to self) -- it seems that
>>>>>>> this problem started after I first ran the project in Debug
>>>>>>> mode. I've tried cleaning the project and rebuilding, but this
>>>>>>> problem persists. It's really a drag.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Noel Bush wrote on 06/05/2007 05:38 PM:
>>>>>>>> I have a Tomcat 5.5 server config and a single web app project
>>>>>>>> assigned to it. Everything was fine until today, but now
>>>>>>>> whenever I start the application, the status shows "Starting..."
>>>>>>>> forever. I can use the web application, but if I change a file,
>>>>>>>> it doesn't publish -- I assume this is because Eclipse/WTP
>>>>>>>> thinks the app is still "Starting...". How can I diagnose
>>>>>>>> this? I've already tried restarting Eclipse with -clean,
>>>>>>>> deleting the server config and recreating it, even restarting
>>>>>>>> the computer (just for fun).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ideas?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is Eclipse 3.2, WTP 1.5.4.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>> Noel
Re: Server is always "Starting..." [message #197924 is a reply to message #197916] Fri, 03 August 2007 20:42 Go to previous message
David Carver is currently offline David Carver
Messages: 174
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Noel Bush wrote:
> Disabling oXygenXML makes this problem go away.
>
> I should file a bug with oXygen. Any tips on what I should direct them
> to be looking at? Anything I could possibly do to stop oXygen from
> interfering with Eclipse knowing that my Tomcat server has successfully
> started up?
>

Just give them the details of what the symptoms are. Particularly what
version of web tools you have installed, what version of eclipse, and
what version of Oxygen. If you are using OxygenXML and are on Eclipse
3.3, make sure you have the 3.3 compatible version of that plugin
otherwise you will get some weird results.

The oxygenXML folks are pretty quick at responding to issues.

Dave
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