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Corporate Usage of Eclipse [message #1170442] Mon, 04 November 2013 16:55 Go to next message
Ryan Latini is currently offline Ryan Latini
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Registered: November 2013
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I am attempting to get Eclipse installed on my local machine at work, but I am encountering difficulties with the head of IT at my company. He is claiming that "The way I read the license it is not available for corporate use unless we plan to contribute."

Now, if I am reading the same license that he is, there is nothing about this in the license. Unfortunately, he is the final arbiter of this decision and pissing off the head of IT by telling him he doesn't understand how to read software licenses probably isn't the best idea for getting what I want accomplished.

I have been perusing online the legal documents of both the EPL and Eclipse Foundation Software User Agreement, and find it to be a bit difficult to find what I'm looking for. So I'm reaching out to the community, do you know of any resources which would be sufficient to a head of IT for leading him to understand that it is fine for him to allow this installation on my computer?

Thanks in advance for your help
Re: Corporate Usage of Eclipse [message #1170517 is a reply to message #1170442] Mon, 04 November 2013 17:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed Merks
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Registered: July 2009
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Ryan,

Comments below.

On 04/11/2013 6:17 PM, Ryan Latini wrote:
> I am attempting to get Eclipse installed on my local machine at work,
> but I am encountering difficulties with the head of IT at my company.
> He is claiming that "The way I read the license it is not available
> for corporate use unless we plan to contribute."
Tell him to consult a lawyer.
>
> Now, if I am reading the same license that he is, there is nothing
> about this in the license.
Of course not.
> Unfortunately, he is the final arbiter of this decision and pissing
> off the head of IT by telling him he doesn't understand how to read
> software licenses probably isn't the best idea for getting what I want
> accomplished.
Ask him to point out specifically where it says this. All the license
says about contribution is that if you modified EPL code, you must make
the modified code publicly available. It doesn't say you can't use it
unless you contribute something....
>
> I have been perusing online the legal documents of both the EPL and
> Eclipse Foundation Software User Agreement, and find it to be a bit
> difficult to find what I'm looking for. So I'm reaching out to the
> community, do you know of any resources which would be sufficient to a
> head of IT for leading him to understand that it is fine for him to
> allow this installation on my computer?
So, in the end it's like asking for free legal advice; no one gives such
a thing.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help
Ask him what specifically he's reading that he's interpreting the way
that he does. Remind him that the license is about how you use the
source code and the copyleft provision is about changes you make to the
source code. Just using the tools provided has nothing to do with
source code. And using the libraries in your own source code is
definitely free to everyone.
Re: Corporate Usage of Eclipse [message #1170541 is a reply to message #1170517] Mon, 04 November 2013 18:19 Go to previous message
Eric Rizzo is currently offline Eric Rizzo
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Registered: July 2009
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The bottom line is that your IT guy is spouting nonsense. Eclipse is used by hundreds or thousands of corporations every day, and we can only dream that all of them actually contributed.

Ed's advice is excellent: ask where the language he's talking about exists.
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