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How to use individual widgets [message #16322] Mon, 06 November 2006 09:38 Go to next message
Roland Tepp is currently offline Roland Tepp
Messages: 336
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hello,

I want to use a few nebula widgets in my application (PGroup at first -
maybe some others later), but I don't really want to include widgets
that I don't use in the distribution.

What is the preferred strategy of picking widgets from Nebula?
Downloading jars from the nebula home?

Using the Source would be preferable, but there are 2 problems - I want
some degree of guaranteed stability (e.g. if I have developed something
based on those widgets, I really would hate to have next release build
fail because the underlying code in the widget changed and broke my app)

How have you guys who use these widgets in production code, done it?

(Ps - we are still on 3.1 codebase and are only just considering moving
the application to 3.2)

--
Roland Tepp
Re: How to use individual widgets [message #16336 is a reply to message #16322] Mon, 06 November 2006 10:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Gross is currently offline Chris Gross
Messages: 253
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Roland,

Yes just download the individual jars for each widget. Thats exactly
what this was designed for.

Regards,
-Chris

Roland Tepp wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I want to use a few nebula widgets in my application (PGroup at first -
> maybe some others later), but I don't really want to include widgets
> that I don't use in the distribution.
>
> What is the preferred strategy of picking widgets from Nebula?
> Downloading jars from the nebula home?
>
> Using the Source would be preferable, but there are 2 problems - I want
> some degree of guaranteed stability (e.g. if I have developed something
> based on those widgets, I really would hate to have next release build
> fail because the underlying code in the widget changed and broke my app)
>
> How have you guys who use these widgets in production code, done it?
>
> (Ps - we are still on 3.1 codebase and are only just considering moving
> the application to 3.2)
>
Re: How to use individual widgets [message #18711 is a reply to message #16336] Thu, 30 November 2006 11:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Roland Tepp is currently offline Roland Tepp
Messages: 336
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Chris,

Thanks for the prompt response (and sorry I wan not able to get back as
fast).

I did download the jar for PGroup, but it seems to be broken.

The PGroup implementation seems to draw heavily on some of the
interfaces and classes defined in the Grid package, which in order ask
for utility classes (TextUtils) that are defined in
o.e.s.n.w.grid.internal package.

Grid package seems to be included with PGroup jar, but grid.internal
package is not.

I understand this dependency has some "historical" roots, however would
it not make more sense to refactor some of these classes to a more
generic location (e.g org.eclipse.swt.nebula.utils or
org.eclipse.swt.nebula.internal) so that all nebula widgets could make
use of these...


Chris Gross kirjutas mulle midagi seesugust:
> Hi Roland,
>
> Yes just download the individual jars for each widget. Thats exactly
> what this was designed for.
>
> Regards,
> -Chris
>
> Roland Tepp wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I want to use a few nebula widgets in my application (PGroup at first
>> - maybe some others later), but I don't really want to include widgets
>> that I don't use in the distribution.
>>
>> What is the preferred strategy of picking widgets from Nebula?
>> Downloading jars from the nebula home?
>>
>> Using the Source would be preferable, but there are 2 problems - I
>> want some degree of guaranteed stability (e.g. if I have developed
>> something based on those widgets, I really would hate to have next
>> release build fail because the underlying code in the widget changed
>> and broke my app)
>>
>> How have you guys who use these widgets in production code, done it?
>>
>> (Ps - we are still on 3.1 codebase and are only just considering
>> moving the application to 3.2)
>>

--
Roland Tepp
Re: How to use individual widgets [message #18780 is a reply to message #18711] Thu, 30 November 2006 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Gross is currently offline Chris Gross
Messages: 253
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
This is a mistake on my part. The jar that ended up on the download
server was not the one I intended. An automated build process is high
on my priority list. I have severed the dependencies between these two
packages and have a new jar to post but I'm not able to access the
Eclipse download servers right now. Not sure why. I will upload it as
soon as the servers become available.

Regards,
-Chris

Roland Tepp wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> Thanks for the prompt response (and sorry I wan not able to get back as
> fast).
>
> I did download the jar for PGroup, but it seems to be broken.
>
> The PGroup implementation seems to draw heavily on some of the
> interfaces and classes defined in the Grid package, which in order ask
> for utility classes (TextUtils) that are defined in
> o.e.s.n.w.grid.internal package.
>
> Grid package seems to be included with PGroup jar, but grid.internal
> package is not.
>
> I understand this dependency has some "historical" roots, however would
> it not make more sense to refactor some of these classes to a more
> generic location (e.g org.eclipse.swt.nebula.utils or
> org.eclipse.swt.nebula.internal) so that all nebula widgets could make
> use of these...
>
>
> Chris Gross kirjutas mulle midagi seesugust:
>> Hi Roland,
>>
>> Yes just download the individual jars for each widget. Thats exactly
>> what this was designed for.
>>
>> Regards,
>> -Chris
>>
>> Roland Tepp wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I want to use a few nebula widgets in my application (PGroup at first
>>> - maybe some others later), but I don't really want to include
>>> widgets that I don't use in the distribution.
>>>
>>> What is the preferred strategy of picking widgets from Nebula?
>>> Downloading jars from the nebula home?
>>>
>>> Using the Source would be preferable, but there are 2 problems - I
>>> want some degree of guaranteed stability (e.g. if I have developed
>>> something based on those widgets, I really would hate to have next
>>> release build fail because the underlying code in the widget changed
>>> and broke my app)
>>>
>>> How have you guys who use these widgets in production code, done it?
>>>
>>> (Ps - we are still on 3.1 codebase and are only just considering
>>> moving the application to 3.2)
>>>
>
Re: How to use individual widgets [message #18802 is a reply to message #18780] Thu, 30 November 2006 16:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Gross is currently offline Chris Gross
Messages: 253
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Ok. The new jar is now available.

-Chris

Chris Gross wrote:
> This is a mistake on my part. The jar that ended up on the download
> server was not the one I intended. An automated build process is high
> on my priority list. I have severed the dependencies between these two
> packages and have a new jar to post but I'm not able to access the
> Eclipse download servers right now. Not sure why. I will upload it as
> soon as the servers become available.
>
> Regards,
> -Chris
>
> Roland Tepp wrote:
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> Thanks for the prompt response (and sorry I wan not able to get back
>> as fast).
>>
>> I did download the jar for PGroup, but it seems to be broken.
>>
>> The PGroup implementation seems to draw heavily on some of the
>> interfaces and classes defined in the Grid package, which in order ask
>> for utility classes (TextUtils) that are defined in
>> o.e.s.n.w.grid.internal package.
>>
>> Grid package seems to be included with PGroup jar, but grid.internal
>> package is not.
>>
>> I understand this dependency has some "historical" roots, however
>> would it not make more sense to refactor some of these classes to a
>> more generic location (e.g org.eclipse.swt.nebula.utils or
>> org.eclipse.swt.nebula.internal) so that all nebula widgets could make
>> use of these...
>>
>>
>> Chris Gross kirjutas mulle midagi seesugust:
>>> Hi Roland,
>>>
>>> Yes just download the individual jars for each widget. Thats exactly
>>> what this was designed for.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> -Chris
>>>
>>> Roland Tepp wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I want to use a few nebula widgets in my application (PGroup at
>>>> first - maybe some others later), but I don't really want to include
>>>> widgets that I don't use in the distribution.
>>>>
>>>> What is the preferred strategy of picking widgets from Nebula?
>>>> Downloading jars from the nebula home?
>>>>
>>>> Using the Source would be preferable, but there are 2 problems - I
>>>> want some degree of guaranteed stability (e.g. if I have developed
>>>> something based on those widgets, I really would hate to have next
>>>> release build fail because the underlying code in the widget changed
>>>> and broke my app)
>>>>
>>>> How have you guys who use these widgets in production code, done it?
>>>>
>>>> (Ps - we are still on 3.1 codebase and are only just considering
>>>> moving the application to 3.2)
>>>>
>>
Re: How to use individual widgets [message #18873 is a reply to message #18802] Fri, 01 December 2006 04:06 Go to previous message
Roland Tepp is currently offline Roland Tepp
Messages: 336
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Thanks, that helped...

One note though for all those wanting to grab the new jar - as of today,
the new jar has not yet been propagated to the mirrors, so anybody
wishing to grab the fixed jar, download it from the main Eclipse DL
server...



Chris Gross kirjutas mulle midagi seesugust:
> Ok. The new jar is now available.
>
> -Chris
>
> Chris Gross wrote:
>> This is a mistake on my part. The jar that ended up on the download
>> server was not the one I intended. An automated build process is high
>> on my priority list. I have severed the dependencies between these
>> two packages and have a new jar to post but I'm not able to access the
>> Eclipse download servers right now. Not sure why. I will upload it
>> as soon as the servers become available.
>>
>> Regards,
>> -Chris
>>
>> Roland Tepp wrote:
>>> Hi Chris,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the prompt response (and sorry I wan not able to get back
>>> as fast).
>>>
>>> I did download the jar for PGroup, but it seems to be broken.
>>>
>>> The PGroup implementation seems to draw heavily on some of the
>>> interfaces and classes defined in the Grid package, which in order
>>> ask for utility classes (TextUtils) that are defined in
>>> o.e.s.n.w.grid.internal package.
>>>
>>> Grid package seems to be included with PGroup jar, but grid.internal
>>> package is not.
>>>
>>> I understand this dependency has some "historical" roots, however
>>> would it not make more sense to refactor some of these classes to a
>>> more generic location (e.g org.eclipse.swt.nebula.utils or
>>> org.eclipse.swt.nebula.internal) so that all nebula widgets could
>>> make use of these...
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Gross kirjutas mulle midagi seesugust:
>>>> Hi Roland,
>>>>
>>>> Yes just download the individual jars for each widget. Thats
>>>> exactly what this was designed for.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> -Chris
>>>>
>>>> Roland Tepp wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to use a few nebula widgets in my application (PGroup at
>>>>> first - maybe some others later), but I don't really want to
>>>>> include widgets that I don't use in the distribution.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the preferred strategy of picking widgets from Nebula?
>>>>> Downloading jars from the nebula home?
>>>>>
>>>>> Using the Source would be preferable, but there are 2 problems - I
>>>>> want some degree of guaranteed stability (e.g. if I have developed
>>>>> something based on those widgets, I really would hate to have next
>>>>> release build fail because the underlying code in the widget
>>>>> changed and broke my app)
>>>>>
>>>>> How have you guys who use these widgets in production code, done it?
>>>>>
>>>>> (Ps - we are still on 3.1 codebase and are only just considering
>>>>> moving the application to 3.2)
>>>>>
>>>

--
Roland Tepp
Re: How to use individual widgets [message #568318 is a reply to message #16322] Mon, 06 November 2006 10:31 Go to previous message
Chris Gross is currently offline Chris Gross
Messages: 471
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Roland,

Yes just download the individual jars for each widget. Thats exactly
what this was designed for.

Regards,
-Chris

Roland Tepp wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I want to use a few nebula widgets in my application (PGroup at first -
> maybe some others later), but I don't really want to include widgets
> that I don't use in the distribution.
>
> What is the preferred strategy of picking widgets from Nebula?
> Downloading jars from the nebula home?
>
> Using the Source would be preferable, but there are 2 problems - I want
> some degree of guaranteed stability (e.g. if I have developed something
> based on those widgets, I really would hate to have next release build
> fail because the underlying code in the widget changed and broke my app)
>
> How have you guys who use these widgets in production code, done it?
>
> (Ps - we are still on 3.1 codebase and are only just considering moving
> the application to 3.2)
>
Re: How to use individual widgets [message #570345 is a reply to message #16336] Thu, 30 November 2006 11:12 Go to previous message
Roland Tepp is currently offline Roland Tepp
Messages: 336
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Chris,

Thanks for the prompt response (and sorry I wan not able to get back as
fast).

I did download the jar for PGroup, but it seems to be broken.

The PGroup implementation seems to draw heavily on some of the
interfaces and classes defined in the Grid package, which in order ask
for utility classes (TextUtils) that are defined in
o.e.s.n.w.grid.internal package.

Grid package seems to be included with PGroup jar, but grid.internal
package is not.

I understand this dependency has some "historical" roots, however would
it not make more sense to refactor some of these classes to a more
generic location (e.g org.eclipse.swt.nebula.utils or
org.eclipse.swt.nebula.internal) so that all nebula widgets could make
use of these...


Chris Gross kirjutas mulle midagi seesugust:
> Hi Roland,
>
> Yes just download the individual jars for each widget. Thats exactly
> what this was designed for.
>
> Regards,
> -Chris
>
> Roland Tepp wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I want to use a few nebula widgets in my application (PGroup at first
>> - maybe some others later), but I don't really want to include widgets
>> that I don't use in the distribution.
>>
>> What is the preferred strategy of picking widgets from Nebula?
>> Downloading jars from the nebula home?
>>
>> Using the Source would be preferable, but there are 2 problems - I
>> want some degree of guaranteed stability (e.g. if I have developed
>> something based on those widgets, I really would hate to have next
>> release build fail because the underlying code in the widget changed
>> and broke my app)
>>
>> How have you guys who use these widgets in production code, done it?
>>
>> (Ps - we are still on 3.1 codebase and are only just considering
>> moving the application to 3.2)
>>

--
Roland Tepp
Re: How to use individual widgets [message #570518 is a reply to message #18711] Thu, 30 November 2006 14:03 Go to previous message
Chris Gross is currently offline Chris Gross
Messages: 471
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
This is a mistake on my part. The jar that ended up on the download
server was not the one I intended. An automated build process is high
on my priority list. I have severed the dependencies between these two
packages and have a new jar to post but I'm not able to access the
Eclipse download servers right now. Not sure why. I will upload it as
soon as the servers become available.

Regards,
-Chris

Roland Tepp wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> Thanks for the prompt response (and sorry I wan not able to get back as
> fast).
>
> I did download the jar for PGroup, but it seems to be broken.
>
> The PGroup implementation seems to draw heavily on some of the
> interfaces and classes defined in the Grid package, which in order ask
> for utility classes (TextUtils) that are defined in
> o.e.s.n.w.grid.internal package.
>
> Grid package seems to be included with PGroup jar, but grid.internal
> package is not.
>
> I understand this dependency has some "historical" roots, however would
> it not make more sense to refactor some of these classes to a more
> generic location (e.g org.eclipse.swt.nebula.utils or
> org.eclipse.swt.nebula.internal) so that all nebula widgets could make
> use of these...
>
>
> Chris Gross kirjutas mulle midagi seesugust:
>> Hi Roland,
>>
>> Yes just download the individual jars for each widget. Thats exactly
>> what this was designed for.
>>
>> Regards,
>> -Chris
>>
>> Roland Tepp wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I want to use a few nebula widgets in my application (PGroup at first
>>> - maybe some others later), but I don't really want to include
>>> widgets that I don't use in the distribution.
>>>
>>> What is the preferred strategy of picking widgets from Nebula?
>>> Downloading jars from the nebula home?
>>>
>>> Using the Source would be preferable, but there are 2 problems - I
>>> want some degree of guaranteed stability (e.g. if I have developed
>>> something based on those widgets, I really would hate to have next
>>> release build fail because the underlying code in the widget changed
>>> and broke my app)
>>>
>>> How have you guys who use these widgets in production code, done it?
>>>
>>> (Ps - we are still on 3.1 codebase and are only just considering
>>> moving the application to 3.2)
>>>
>
Re: How to use individual widgets [message #570574 is a reply to message #18780] Thu, 30 November 2006 16:37 Go to previous message
Chris Gross is currently offline Chris Gross
Messages: 471
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Ok. The new jar is now available.

-Chris

Chris Gross wrote:
> This is a mistake on my part. The jar that ended up on the download
> server was not the one I intended. An automated build process is high
> on my priority list. I have severed the dependencies between these two
> packages and have a new jar to post but I'm not able to access the
> Eclipse download servers right now. Not sure why. I will upload it as
> soon as the servers become available.
>
> Regards,
> -Chris
>
> Roland Tepp wrote:
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> Thanks for the prompt response (and sorry I wan not able to get back
>> as fast).
>>
>> I did download the jar for PGroup, but it seems to be broken.
>>
>> The PGroup implementation seems to draw heavily on some of the
>> interfaces and classes defined in the Grid package, which in order ask
>> for utility classes (TextUtils) that are defined in
>> o.e.s.n.w.grid.internal package.
>>
>> Grid package seems to be included with PGroup jar, but grid.internal
>> package is not.
>>
>> I understand this dependency has some "historical" roots, however
>> would it not make more sense to refactor some of these classes to a
>> more generic location (e.g org.eclipse.swt.nebula.utils or
>> org.eclipse.swt.nebula.internal) so that all nebula widgets could make
>> use of these...
>>
>>
>> Chris Gross kirjutas mulle midagi seesugust:
>>> Hi Roland,
>>>
>>> Yes just download the individual jars for each widget. Thats exactly
>>> what this was designed for.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> -Chris
>>>
>>> Roland Tepp wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I want to use a few nebula widgets in my application (PGroup at
>>>> first - maybe some others later), but I don't really want to include
>>>> widgets that I don't use in the distribution.
>>>>
>>>> What is the preferred strategy of picking widgets from Nebula?
>>>> Downloading jars from the nebula home?
>>>>
>>>> Using the Source would be preferable, but there are 2 problems - I
>>>> want some degree of guaranteed stability (e.g. if I have developed
>>>> something based on those widgets, I really would hate to have next
>>>> release build fail because the underlying code in the widget changed
>>>> and broke my app)
>>>>
>>>> How have you guys who use these widgets in production code, done it?
>>>>
>>>> (Ps - we are still on 3.1 codebase and are only just considering
>>>> moving the application to 3.2)
>>>>
>>
Re: How to use individual widgets [message #570681 is a reply to message #18802] Fri, 01 December 2006 04:06 Go to previous message
Roland Tepp is currently offline Roland Tepp
Messages: 336
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Thanks, that helped...

One note though for all those wanting to grab the new jar - as of today,
the new jar has not yet been propagated to the mirrors, so anybody
wishing to grab the fixed jar, download it from the main Eclipse DL
server...



Chris Gross kirjutas mulle midagi seesugust:
> Ok. The new jar is now available.
>
> -Chris
>
> Chris Gross wrote:
>> This is a mistake on my part. The jar that ended up on the download
>> server was not the one I intended. An automated build process is high
>> on my priority list. I have severed the dependencies between these
>> two packages and have a new jar to post but I'm not able to access the
>> Eclipse download servers right now. Not sure why. I will upload it
>> as soon as the servers become available.
>>
>> Regards,
>> -Chris
>>
>> Roland Tepp wrote:
>>> Hi Chris,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the prompt response (and sorry I wan not able to get back
>>> as fast).
>>>
>>> I did download the jar for PGroup, but it seems to be broken.
>>>
>>> The PGroup implementation seems to draw heavily on some of the
>>> interfaces and classes defined in the Grid package, which in order
>>> ask for utility classes (TextUtils) that are defined in
>>> o.e.s.n.w.grid.internal package.
>>>
>>> Grid package seems to be included with PGroup jar, but grid.internal
>>> package is not.
>>>
>>> I understand this dependency has some "historical" roots, however
>>> would it not make more sense to refactor some of these classes to a
>>> more generic location (e.g org.eclipse.swt.nebula.utils or
>>> org.eclipse.swt.nebula.internal) so that all nebula widgets could
>>> make use of these...
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Gross kirjutas mulle midagi seesugust:
>>>> Hi Roland,
>>>>
>>>> Yes just download the individual jars for each widget. Thats
>>>> exactly what this was designed for.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> -Chris
>>>>
>>>> Roland Tepp wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to use a few nebula widgets in my application (PGroup at
>>>>> first - maybe some others later), but I don't really want to
>>>>> include widgets that I don't use in the distribution.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the preferred strategy of picking widgets from Nebula?
>>>>> Downloading jars from the nebula home?
>>>>>
>>>>> Using the Source would be preferable, but there are 2 problems - I
>>>>> want some degree of guaranteed stability (e.g. if I have developed
>>>>> something based on those widgets, I really would hate to have next
>>>>> release build fail because the underlying code in the widget
>>>>> changed and broke my app)
>>>>>
>>>>> How have you guys who use these widgets in production code, done it?
>>>>>
>>>>> (Ps - we are still on 3.1 codebase and are only just considering
>>>>> moving the application to 3.2)
>>>>>
>>>

--
Roland Tepp
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