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Using Server Framework for BPEL [message #168838] Tue, 09 May 2006 19:58 Go to next message
Bruno Wassermann is currently offline Bruno WassermannFriend
Messages: 21
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Hi,

I am working on a runtime extension point for the Eclipse BPEL Designer
and have been looking at the server framework used in Web Tools recently.
I would just like to describe what our extension point is trying to
achieve and would appreciate it, if someone could maybe answer along the
lines of: "forget it, not possible", "yup, you just need to do A, B, C",
"yup, just look at X" to the question "how do we make use of the server
framework (runtimeTypes, serverTypes, genericpublisher...) to implement
our runtime extension point?"

The mentioned extension point should allow third-party runtime providers
to simply plug their BPEL runtime into BPEL Designer. An extension would
be responsible to carry out the creation any deployment descriptors and
archives, carrying out some engine-specific validation of the module to be
dpeloyed, transferring necessary files onto the server, etc.
The runtime extension point should allow extensions to provide a wizard
page to gather their configuration params (sounds like wizardFragments
maybe) and provide access to required information such as bpel, wsdl, xsd
files, model, etc.

After spending some time looking at the server framework source code, I am
still not sure whether these requirements can be realised by reusing your
efforts or whether we would be better off catering for our reqs ourselves.
I see many parallels, just haven't figured out whether it's really
feasible.

If anyone could volunteer some thoughts on this (or if there is some need
for further clarification of what is needed), that would be great!

Regards,

-- Bruno
Re: Using Server Framework for BPEL [message #169019 is a reply to message #168838] Thu, 11 May 2006 05:01 Go to previous message
Gorkem Ercan is currently offline Gorkem ErcanFriend
Messages: 166
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Yup, What you are describing is what server tools in wtp is meant to
solve. And I have seen a commercial product built on top of WTP plug
BPEL runtime using server tools.

There are a few documents on server tools in the webtools project
community pages, also check the presentations archive, some of these are
old but valid enough. And finally we had a tutorial in eclipsecon06, you
can find the in the conference site. there is the newsgroup but you
already know that.

--
Görkem

Bruno Wassermann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am working on a runtime extension point for the Eclipse BPEL Designer
> and have been looking at the server framework used in Web Tools
> recently. I would just like to describe what our extension point is
> trying to achieve and would appreciate it, if someone could maybe answer
> along the lines of: "forget it, not possible", "yup, you just need to do
> A, B, C", "yup, just look at X" to the question "how do we make use of
> the server framework (runtimeTypes, serverTypes, genericpublisher...) to
> implement our runtime extension point?"
>
> The mentioned extension point should allow third-party runtime providers
> to simply plug their BPEL runtime into BPEL Designer. An extension would
> be responsible to carry out the creation any deployment descriptors and
> archives, carrying out some engine-specific validation of the module to
> be dpeloyed, transferring necessary files onto the server, etc. The
> runtime extension point should allow extensions to provide a wizard page
> to gather their configuration params (sounds like wizardFragments maybe)
> and provide access to required information such as bpel, wsdl, xsd
> files, model, etc.
>
> After spending some time looking at the server framework source code, I
> am still not sure whether these requirements can be realised by reusing
> your efforts or whether we would be better off catering for our reqs
> ourselves. I see many parallels, just haven't figured out whether it's
> really feasible.
> If anyone could volunteer some thoughts on this (or if there is some
> need for further clarification of what is needed), that would be great!
>
> Regards,
>
> -- Bruno
>
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