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new version of the proposal [message #15695] Mon, 16 January 2006 15:28 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: fabrice.dewasmes.openwide.fr

Hi all,

please find at https://forge.openwide.fr/docman/view.php/61/77/jwt.htm
an updated version of the proposal integrating all modifications listed
in the wrap up.

Fabrice
just formality [message #17510 is a reply to message #15695] Mon, 16 January 2006 21:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: vgv8.yahoo.com.br

There are broken links there
- the link "GEF (Graphical Editing Framework)" is broken (it points to
http://wwe.eclipse.org/gef/ instead of www). Also "? sse components" jumps
into eyes, for me, there)
- the link "Open business engine - OBE" points to http://www.eclipse.org
(should it? ) and shif-clicking opens blank page
- eclipse.technology.jwt newsgroup also opens itself blank on shift-clicking

"Extension points" collide a little bit with Eclipse PDE term. And
"Integration"... It always better to use low-level profile

In the rest I was not attentive. I believe it is FORMALITY. It is WATERFALL
approach and I hope we will ITERATE. The main main thing is common vision
and UNDERSTANDINGwhat we apparently all have due Fabrice diplomacy. "The
projects frequently fail but rarely due to technical reasons", if I remember
it correctly

I don't know how important to have the good face here before others.

I noted that JaWE2.x doesn't permit activity resizing. In version 1.4.x it
was possible, at least, through Configuration Dialog. New version also
doesn't have various other features.
I am just curious why ObjectWeb's team doesn't join us?

Good luck to us!

Guennadi Vanine
"Fabrice Dewasmes" <fabrice.dewasmes@openwide.fr> wrote in message
news:dqge87$90a$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> Hi all,
>
> please find at https://forge.openwide.fr/docman/view.php/61/77/jwt.htm an
> updated version of the proposal integrating all modifications listed in
> the wrap up.
>
> Fabrice
Re: just formality [message #17563 is a reply to message #17510] Mon, 16 January 2006 22:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: fabrice.dewasmes.openwide.fr

Guennadi Vanine wrote:
> There are broken links there
> - the link "GEF (Graphical Editing Framework)" is broken (it points to
> http://wwe.eclipse.org/gef/ instead of www). Also "? sse components" jumps
> into eyes, for me, there)
fixed
> - the link "Open business engine - OBE" points to http://www.eclipse.org
> (should it? ) and shif-clicking opens blank page
fixed
> - eclipse.technology.jwt newsgroup also opens itself blank on shift-clicking
>
Evrything is OK for link. Maybe is that your browser doesn't know how to
handle such links.
> "Extension points" collide a little bit with Eclipse PDE term.
And
> "Integration"... It always better to use low-level profile

Mmmh yeah, it is maybe too strong. Maybe we should use relationships as
you suggested. What do others thinks of this ?

>
> In the rest I was not attentive. I believe it is FORMALITY.
Yes. But important one. Without doing it we won't be able to effectively
start the project.
It is WATERFALL
> approach and I hope we will ITERATE.

Definitely : of course ! I like iterative approaches and think it is a
good way to achieve solid software design.

The main main thing is common vision
> and UNDERSTANDINGwhat we apparently all have due Fabrice diplomacy. "The
> projects frequently fail but rarely due to technical reasons", if I remember
> it correctly
>
> I don't know how important to have the good face here before others.
>
> I noted that JaWE2.x doesn't permit activity resizing. In version 1.4.x it
> was possible, at least, through Configuration Dialog. New version also
> doesn't have various other features.
> I am just curious why ObjectWeb's team doesn't join us?

Excellent question... Well, I've posted something on jawe dev list to
see if people were interested. I think that many people wait for the
project to become more concrete to start giving it careful attention.

>
> Good luck to us!
>
> Guennadi Vanine
> "Fabrice Dewasmes" <fabrice.dewasmes@openwide.fr> wrote in message
> news:dqge87$90a$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>please find at https://forge.openwide.fr/docman/view.php/61/77/jwt.htm an
>>updated version of the proposal integrating all modifications listed in
>>the wrap up.
>>
>>Fabrice
>
>
>
honest developers of all countries, join us! [message #17576 is a reply to message #17563] Tue, 17 January 2006 00:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: vgv8.yahoo.com.br

> Yes. But important one. Without doing it we won't be able to effectively

> Excellent question... Well, I've posted something on jawe dev list to see
> if people were interested. I think that many people wait for the project
> to become more concrete to start giving it careful attention.

I guess JWT's activity has frozen the one of
http://www.eclipse.org/bpel

What I see is that JWT analysis (vision), contributions and approaches are
significantly more solide than theirs but their's is already approved
project.
Guennadi Vanine
Re: honest developers of all countries, join us! [message #17618 is a reply to message #17576] Tue, 17 January 2006 09:55 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: fabrice.dewasmes.openwide.fr

Guennadi Vanine wrote:
>>Yes. But important one. Without doing it we won't be able to effectively
>
>
>>Excellent question... Well, I've posted something on jawe dev list to see
>>if people were interested. I think that many people wait for the project
>>to become more concrete to start giving it careful attention.
>
>
> I guess JWT's activity has frozen the one of
> http://www.eclipse.org/bpel
>
> What I see is that JWT analysis (vision), contributions and approaches are
> significantly more solide than theirs but their's is already approved
> project.

Don't worry : we will soon be ! ;)
> Guennadi Vanine
>
>
>
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