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Glimmer on RCP ? [message #1215] Sat, 13 December 2008 00:49 Go to next message
Ketan Padegaonkar is currently offline Ketan Padegaonkar
Messages: 873
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Alright, so we're considering glimmer as a tool to throw up wizards and
views and all things SWT.

The SWT examples that are available on the glimmer home page are quite a
compelling reason, I must say! We've done a few spikes around using
plain ruby jruby to throw up some sample views.

There are several questions that come to mind as far as integrating
glimmer into RCP is concerned:

packaging
---------
- jruby, ruby base libraries and other gems

This is one of the highest concerns. This aspect gets funny when the
eclipse class loader, and service discovery is involved.

- my own plugins
Do I package my plugins as a jar? Will the require statements in ruby
code continue to work? I guess not.

testing
-------
- how would I unit test this code from a PDE-JUnit test launch, from
within eclipse and also headless

interoperability with testing tools
-----------------------------------
- JTestr http://jtestr.codehaus.org/
Testing eclipse interfaces apps is a royal pain. JTestr makes it easy to
test java code using jruby, and integrates with most ruby/java testing
frameworks like rspec, mocha, junit, testng.

I'm sure there will be other questions that come to mind over the course
of time, but I wanted to understand what are some of opinions and neat
tips from the folks at glimmer.

--Ketan
Re: Glimmer on RCP ? [message #1241 is a reply to message #1215] Wed, 17 December 2008 12:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Patrick Radtke is currently offline Patrick Radtke
Messages: 4
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
We are also looking at doing Eclipse RCP stuff with glimmer.

These links may or may not be useful in achieving this:
Talks about using Groovy in RCP - I imagine there would be a similar
concept for using JRuby
http://iacobus.blogspot.com/2007/03/add-groovy-to-your-eclip se-plugin.html

This one has one comment on using JRuby with OSGI
http://www.nabble.com/JRuby,-Netbeans-and-OSGi-td20451342.ht ml

I haven't had a chance to try any of the above out though.
Re: Glimmer on RCP ? [message #1266 is a reply to message #1215] Tue, 13 January 2009 10:37 Go to previous message
Andy Maleh is currently offline Andy Maleh
Messages: 28
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Zaitrarrio Collier had experience integrating RCP with Glimmer. He is in
the process of posting a new implementation. Once he has done so, I'll add
a link.

Ketan Padegaonkar wrote:

> Alright, so we're considering glimmer as a tool to throw up wizards and
> views and all things SWT.

> The SWT examples that are available on the glimmer home page are quite a
> compelling reason, I must say! We've done a few spikes around using
> plain ruby jruby to throw up some sample views.

> There are several questions that come to mind as far as integrating
> glimmer into RCP is concerned:

> packaging
> ---------
> - jruby, ruby base libraries and other gems

> This is one of the highest concerns. This aspect gets funny when the
> eclipse class loader, and service discovery is involved.

> - my own plugins
> Do I package my plugins as a jar? Will the require statements in ruby
> code continue to work? I guess not.

> testing
> -------
> - how would I unit test this code from a PDE-JUnit test launch, from
> within eclipse and also headless

> interoperability with testing tools
> -----------------------------------
> - JTestr http://jtestr.codehaus.org/
> Testing eclipse interfaces apps is a royal pain. JTestr makes it easy to
> test java code using jruby, and integrates with most ruby/java testing
> frameworks like rspec, mocha, junit, testng.

> I'm sure there will be other questions that come to mind over the course
> of time, but I wanted to understand what are some of opinions and neat
> tips from the folks at glimmer.

> --Ketan
Re: Glimmer on RCP ? [message #565768 is a reply to message #1215] Wed, 17 December 2008 12:47 Go to previous message
Patrick Radtke is currently offline Patrick Radtke
Messages: 4
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
We are also looking at doing Eclipse RCP stuff with glimmer.

These links may or may not be useful in achieving this:
Talks about using Groovy in RCP - I imagine there would be a similar
concept for using JRuby
http://iacobus.blogspot.com/2007/03/add-groovy-to-your-eclip se-plugin.html

This one has one comment on using JRuby with OSGI
http://www.nabble.com/JRuby,-Netbeans-and-OSGi-td20451342.ht ml

I haven't had a chance to try any of the above out though.
Re: Glimmer on RCP ? [message #565784 is a reply to message #1215] Tue, 13 January 2009 10:37 Go to previous message
Andy Maleh is currently offline Andy Maleh
Messages: 28
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Zaitrarrio Collier had experience integrating RCP with Glimmer. He is in
the process of posting a new implementation. Once he has done so, I'll add
a link.

Ketan Padegaonkar wrote:

> Alright, so we're considering glimmer as a tool to throw up wizards and
> views and all things SWT.

> The SWT examples that are available on the glimmer home page are quite a
> compelling reason, I must say! We've done a few spikes around using
> plain ruby jruby to throw up some sample views.

> There are several questions that come to mind as far as integrating
> glimmer into RCP is concerned:

> packaging
> ---------
> - jruby, ruby base libraries and other gems

> This is one of the highest concerns. This aspect gets funny when the
> eclipse class loader, and service discovery is involved.

> - my own plugins
> Do I package my plugins as a jar? Will the require statements in ruby
> code continue to work? I guess not.

> testing
> -------
> - how would I unit test this code from a PDE-JUnit test launch, from
> within eclipse and also headless

> interoperability with testing tools
> -----------------------------------
> - JTestr http://jtestr.codehaus.org/
> Testing eclipse interfaces apps is a royal pain. JTestr makes it easy to
> test java code using jruby, and integrates with most ruby/java testing
> frameworks like rspec, mocha, junit, testng.

> I'm sure there will be other questions that come to mind over the course
> of time, but I wanted to understand what are some of opinions and neat
> tips from the folks at glimmer.

> --Ketan
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