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UML Diagram Generation [message #1170] Mon, 22 June 2009 10:23 Go to next message
vijay is currently offline vijay
Messages: 22
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Hi,

I have to build a tool which can generate UML diagrams from code,
Like class Hierarchy, Class relations, Sequence diagrams etc.

Can any body give me directions in terms of frameworks which could be
directly used with minimum code changes or without any changes.

Thanks in advance
Re: UML Diagram Generation [message #1198 is a reply to message #1170] Mon, 22 June 2009 20:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gabriel BARBIER is currently offline Gabriel BARBIER
Messages: 106
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hello,
In MoDisco examples, you could see some discoverers from Java or C# to specific models, then to KDM models and finally
to UML models.
Perhaps could you reproduce the same schema with UML diagrams.
And just a question, have you already choosen the target tool for UML diagrams ? for example, in eclipse there is
UML2Tools and Papyrus.

regards,
Gabriel

vijay wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have to build a tool which can generate UML diagrams from code,
> Like class Hierarchy, Class relations, Sequence diagrams etc.
>
> Can any body give me directions in terms of frameworks which could be
> directly used with minimum code changes or without any changes.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
Re: UML Diagram Generation [message #1224 is a reply to message #1198] Tue, 23 June 2009 04:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
vijay is currently offline vijay
Messages: 22
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
I have tryed modisco but the uml diagram which i expect to be drawn are
different from what it draws(Tree structure)...

even if have to draw then i have to use the model generated which i think
is as good as using the JDT project hirarcy classes..

i am planning to use UML2Tools as my target tool, but my requirement is
only to generate not to draw and modify...

Also in EMF,GMF,GEF,modisco,UML2 which frameworks should i concentrate
more on...(i am new to the modeling frameworks)

Thanks a lot for your help...



Gabriel wrote:

> Hello,
> In MoDisco examples, you could see some discoverers from Java or C# to
specific models, then to KDM models and finally
> to UML models.
> Perhaps could you reproduce the same schema with UML diagrams.
> And just a question, have you already choosen the target tool for UML
diagrams ? for example, in eclipse there is
> UML2Tools and Papyrus.

> regards,
> Gabriel

> vijay wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have to build a tool which can generate UML diagrams from code,
>> Like class Hierarchy, Class relations, Sequence diagrams etc.
>>
>> Can any body give me directions in terms of frameworks which could be
>> directly used with minimum code changes or without any changes.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
Re: UML Diagram Generation [message #1250 is a reply to message #1224] Tue, 23 June 2009 06:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gabriel BARBIER is currently offline Gabriel BARBIER
Messages: 106
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hello,
I think that UML2Tools could be a good choice as it automatically creates and initializes diagrams from existing model
(to validate your models).
And of course MoDisco is the best to create models, its structure lets you modify and configure existing discoverers
easily, as for instant we only provide class informations but you could improve these tools to add sequence informations
as well.

So for me, you should try combination of MoDisco and UML2Tools (see example plugin
org.eclipse.gmt.modisco.usecases.modelfilter).

Regards
Gabriel

vijay wrote:
> I have tryed modisco but the uml diagram which i expect to be drawn are
> different from what it draws(Tree structure)...
>
> even if have to draw then i have to use the model generated which i
> think is as good as using the JDT project hirarcy classes..
>
> i am planning to use UML2Tools as my target tool, but my requirement is
> only to generate not to draw and modify...
>
> Also in EMF,GMF,GEF,modisco,UML2 which frameworks should i concentrate
> more on...(i am new to the modeling frameworks)
>
> Thanks a lot for your help...
>
>
>
> Gabriel wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> In MoDisco examples, you could see some discoverers from Java or C# to
> specific models, then to KDM models and finally
>> to UML models.
>> Perhaps could you reproduce the same schema with UML diagrams.
>> And just a question, have you already choosen the target tool for UML
> diagrams ? for example, in eclipse there is
>> UML2Tools and Papyrus.
>
>> regards,
>> Gabriel
>
>> vijay wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have to build a tool which can generate UML diagrams from code,
>>> Like class Hierarchy, Class relations, Sequence diagrams etc.
>>>
>>> Can any body give me directions in terms of frameworks which could be
>>> directly used with minimum code changes or without any changes.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>
>
Re: UML Diagram Generation [message #1273 is a reply to message #1250] Tue, 23 June 2009 14:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
vijay is currently offline vijay
Messages: 22
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Thank you very much for your responses.

My requirements match more with Papyrus UML tool...

I tryed creating KDM,J2SE5,UML models and tryed to open them using UML
tool and Papyrus.

I think for my requirement it would be better to modify the discoverers so
that the meta model has class Hierarchy,method call hierarchy,relation
ship info etc.

also using the above model i should write my own editor/view which can
show the model as per my requirement...

For this which framework should i use GMF or GEF????

The only problem i think would be it takes a lot of time to discover a
model for a small project let alone big projects...

Gabriel wrote:

> Hello,
> I think that UML2Tools could be a good choice as it automatically creates
and initializes diagrams from existing model
> (to validate your models).
> And of course MoDisco is the best to create models, its structure lets you
modify and configure existing discoverers
> easily, as for instant we only provide class informations but you could
improve these tools to add sequence informations
> as well.

> So for me, you should try combination of MoDisco and UML2Tools (see example
plugin
> org.eclipse.gmt.modisco.usecases.modelfilter).

> Regards
> Gabriel

> vijay wrote:
>> I have tryed modisco but the uml diagram which i expect to be drawn are
>> different from what it draws(Tree structure)...
>>
>> even if have to draw then i have to use the model generated which i
>> think is as good as using the JDT project hirarcy classes..
>>
>> i am planning to use UML2Tools as my target tool, but my requirement is
>> only to generate not to draw and modify...
>>
>> Also in EMF,GMF,GEF,modisco,UML2 which frameworks should i concentrate
>> more on...(i am new to the modeling frameworks)
>>
>> Thanks a lot for your help...
>>
>>
>>
>> Gabriel wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> In MoDisco examples, you could see some discoverers from Java or C# to
>> specific models, then to KDM models and finally
>>> to UML models.
>>> Perhaps could you reproduce the same schema with UML diagrams.
>>> And just a question, have you already choosen the target tool for UML
>> diagrams ? for example, in eclipse there is
>>> UML2Tools and Papyrus.
>>
>>> regards,
>>> Gabriel
>>
>>> vijay wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have to build a tool which can generate UML diagrams from code,
>>>> Like class Hierarchy, Class relations, Sequence diagrams etc.
>>>>
>>>> Can any body give me directions in terms of frameworks which could be
>>>> directly used with minimum code changes or without any changes.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>
>>
>>
Re: UML Diagram Generation [message #1293 is a reply to message #1224] Tue, 23 June 2009 23:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Krzysztof Kowalczyk is currently offline Krzysztof Kowalczyk
Messages: 113
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
> I have tryed modisco but the uml diagram which i expect to be drawn are
> different from what it draws(Tree structure)...

I am confused ;)

MoDisco does not draw uml diagrams, it creates the UML model ('.uml'
file). UMLTools and Papyrus can draw (initialize) diagrams based on that
model. Then you can do whatever you want with such diagrams.

Regards,
Krzysztof Kowalczyk
Re: UML Diagram Generation [message #1313 is a reply to message #1293] Wed, 24 June 2009 04:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
vijay is currently offline vijay
Messages: 22
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Yes you are right,

I need help in my own custom UML model generation as well as UML diagram
generation..

My Uml model should contain all relationship,Hierarchy,Sequence info...
And my UML editor should be able to render the same in a traditional
way(with all decorations and all that) also with proper placement and
resizing of diagrams which UMLTool/papyrus lack...

Krzysztof Kowalczyk wrote:

>> I have tryed modisco but the uml diagram which i expect to be drawn are
>> different from what it draws(Tree structure)...

> I am confused ;)

> MoDisco does not draw uml diagrams, it creates the UML model ('.uml'
> file). UMLTools and Papyrus can draw (initialize) diagrams based on that
> model. Then you can do whatever you want with such diagrams.

> Regards,
> Krzysztof Kowalczyk
Re: UML Diagram Generation [message #1328 is a reply to message #1273] Fri, 26 June 2009 15:24 Go to previous message
Gabriel BARBIER is currently offline Gabriel BARBIER
Messages: 106
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hello Vijay
Firstly, if you would like to perform transformation from UML models (*.uml) to Papyrus models (*.di2), this is of high
interest to me ! Just get in touch.

And to be sure I correctly understand you answer :

> the meta model has class Hierarchy,method call
> hierarchy,relation ship info etc.

Does it means that you consider J2SE5, KDM and UML don't have these informations ?

From my experience of these metamodels and discovered models, I think that J2SE5 and KDM models contains enough
informations / relationships to compute a hierarchy graph. The point would be to complete the UML model with these
informations.


And if you want to write a specific metamodel with these informations, you will have also to compute these informations
from J2SE5 models or other java models or to have a specific parser.
In this case, I believe that th best tool to generate an editor would be GMF (GEMS is not enough mature and GEF is too
generic).

Regards,
Gabriel

PS: about scalability, I think EMF is the main point, we are trying CDO to bypass some issues.

vijay wrote:
> Thank you very much for your responses.
>
> My requirements match more with Papyrus UML tool...
>
> I tryed creating KDM,J2SE5,UML models and tryed to open them using UML
> tool and Papyrus.
>
> I think for my requirement it would be better to modify the discoverers
> so that the meta model has class Hierarchy,method call
> hierarchy,relation ship info etc.
>
> also using the above model i should write my own editor/view which can
> show the model as per my requirement...
>
> For this which framework should i use GMF or GEF????
>
> The only problem i think would be it takes a lot of time to discover a
> model for a small project let alone big projects...
>
> Gabriel wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I think that UML2Tools could be a good choice as it automatically creates
> and initializes diagrams from existing model
>> (to validate your models).
>> And of course MoDisco is the best to create models, its structure lets
>> you
> modify and configure existing discoverers
>> easily, as for instant we only provide class informations but you could
> improve these tools to add sequence informations
>> as well.
>
>> So for me, you should try combination of MoDisco and UML2Tools (see
>> example
> plugin
>> org.eclipse.gmt.modisco.usecases.modelfilter).
>
>> Regards
>> Gabriel
>
>> vijay wrote:
>>> I have tryed modisco but the uml diagram which i expect to be drawn
>>> are different from what it draws(Tree structure)...
>>>
>>> even if have to draw then i have to use the model generated which i
>>> think is as good as using the JDT project hirarcy classes..
>>>
>>> i am planning to use UML2Tools as my target tool, but my requirement
>>> is only to generate not to draw and modify...
>>>
>>> Also in EMF,GMF,GEF,modisco,UML2 which frameworks should i
>>> concentrate more on...(i am new to the modeling frameworks)
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot for your help...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gabriel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> In MoDisco examples, you could see some discoverers from Java or C# to
>>> specific models, then to KDM models and finally
>>>> to UML models.
>>>> Perhaps could you reproduce the same schema with UML diagrams.
>>>> And just a question, have you already choosen the target tool for UML
>>> diagrams ? for example, in eclipse there is
>>>> UML2Tools and Papyrus.
>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>> Gabriel
>>>
>>>> vijay wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have to build a tool which can generate UML diagrams from code,
>>>>> Like class Hierarchy, Class relations, Sequence diagrams etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can any body give me directions in terms of frameworks which could
>>>>> be directly used with minimum code changes or without any changes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
Re: UML Diagram Generation [message #573249 is a reply to message #1170] Mon, 22 June 2009 20:17 Go to previous message
Gabriel BARBIER is currently offline Gabriel BARBIER
Messages: 106
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hello,
In MoDisco examples, you could see some discoverers from Java or C# to specific models, then to KDM models and finally
to UML models.
Perhaps could you reproduce the same schema with UML diagrams.
And just a question, have you already choosen the target tool for UML diagrams ? for example, in eclipse there is
UML2Tools and Papyrus.

regards,
Gabriel

vijay wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have to build a tool which can generate UML diagrams from code,
> Like class Hierarchy, Class relations, Sequence diagrams etc.
>
> Can any body give me directions in terms of frameworks which could be
> directly used with minimum code changes or without any changes.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
Re: UML Diagram Generation [message #573266 is a reply to message #1198] Tue, 23 June 2009 04:17 Go to previous message
vijay is currently offline vijay
Messages: 22
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
I have tryed modisco but the uml diagram which i expect to be drawn are
different from what it draws(Tree structure)...

even if have to draw then i have to use the model generated which i think
is as good as using the JDT project hirarcy classes..

i am planning to use UML2Tools as my target tool, but my requirement is
only to generate not to draw and modify...

Also in EMF,GMF,GEF,modisco,UML2 which frameworks should i concentrate
more on...(i am new to the modeling frameworks)

Thanks a lot for your help...



Gabriel wrote:

> Hello,
> In MoDisco examples, you could see some discoverers from Java or C# to
specific models, then to KDM models and finally
> to UML models.
> Perhaps could you reproduce the same schema with UML diagrams.
> And just a question, have you already choosen the target tool for UML
diagrams ? for example, in eclipse there is
> UML2Tools and Papyrus.

> regards,
> Gabriel

> vijay wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have to build a tool which can generate UML diagrams from code,
>> Like class Hierarchy, Class relations, Sequence diagrams etc.
>>
>> Can any body give me directions in terms of frameworks which could be
>> directly used with minimum code changes or without any changes.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
Re: UML Diagram Generation [message #573293 is a reply to message #1224] Tue, 23 June 2009 06:48 Go to previous message
Gabriel BARBIER is currently offline Gabriel BARBIER
Messages: 106
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hello,
I think that UML2Tools could be a good choice as it automatically creates and initializes diagrams from existing model
(to validate your models).
And of course MoDisco is the best to create models, its structure lets you modify and configure existing discoverers
easily, as for instant we only provide class informations but you could improve these tools to add sequence informations
as well.

So for me, you should try combination of MoDisco and UML2Tools (see example plugin
org.eclipse.gmt.modisco.usecases.modelfilter).

Regards
Gabriel

vijay wrote:
> I have tryed modisco but the uml diagram which i expect to be drawn are
> different from what it draws(Tree structure)...
>
> even if have to draw then i have to use the model generated which i
> think is as good as using the JDT project hirarcy classes..
>
> i am planning to use UML2Tools as my target tool, but my requirement is
> only to generate not to draw and modify...
>
> Also in EMF,GMF,GEF,modisco,UML2 which frameworks should i concentrate
> more on...(i am new to the modeling frameworks)
>
> Thanks a lot for your help...
>
>
>
> Gabriel wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> In MoDisco examples, you could see some discoverers from Java or C# to
> specific models, then to KDM models and finally
>> to UML models.
>> Perhaps could you reproduce the same schema with UML diagrams.
>> And just a question, have you already choosen the target tool for UML
> diagrams ? for example, in eclipse there is
>> UML2Tools and Papyrus.
>
>> regards,
>> Gabriel
>
>> vijay wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have to build a tool which can generate UML diagrams from code,
>>> Like class Hierarchy, Class relations, Sequence diagrams etc.
>>>
>>> Can any body give me directions in terms of frameworks which could be
>>> directly used with minimum code changes or without any changes.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>
>
Re: UML Diagram Generation [message #573313 is a reply to message #1250] Tue, 23 June 2009 14:37 Go to previous message
vijay is currently offline vijay
Messages: 22
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Thank you very much for your responses.

My requirements match more with Papyrus UML tool...

I tryed creating KDM,J2SE5,UML models and tryed to open them using UML
tool and Papyrus.

I think for my requirement it would be better to modify the discoverers so
that the meta model has class Hierarchy,method call hierarchy,relation
ship info etc.

also using the above model i should write my own editor/view which can
show the model as per my requirement...

For this which framework should i use GMF or GEF????

The only problem i think would be it takes a lot of time to discover a
model for a small project let alone big projects...

Gabriel wrote:

> Hello,
> I think that UML2Tools could be a good choice as it automatically creates
and initializes diagrams from existing model
> (to validate your models).
> And of course MoDisco is the best to create models, its structure lets you
modify and configure existing discoverers
> easily, as for instant we only provide class informations but you could
improve these tools to add sequence informations
> as well.

> So for me, you should try combination of MoDisco and UML2Tools (see example
plugin
> org.eclipse.gmt.modisco.usecases.modelfilter).

> Regards
> Gabriel

> vijay wrote:
>> I have tryed modisco but the uml diagram which i expect to be drawn are
>> different from what it draws(Tree structure)...
>>
>> even if have to draw then i have to use the model generated which i
>> think is as good as using the JDT project hirarcy classes..
>>
>> i am planning to use UML2Tools as my target tool, but my requirement is
>> only to generate not to draw and modify...
>>
>> Also in EMF,GMF,GEF,modisco,UML2 which frameworks should i concentrate
>> more on...(i am new to the modeling frameworks)
>>
>> Thanks a lot for your help...
>>
>>
>>
>> Gabriel wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> In MoDisco examples, you could see some discoverers from Java or C# to
>> specific models, then to KDM models and finally
>>> to UML models.
>>> Perhaps could you reproduce the same schema with UML diagrams.
>>> And just a question, have you already choosen the target tool for UML
>> diagrams ? for example, in eclipse there is
>>> UML2Tools and Papyrus.
>>
>>> regards,
>>> Gabriel
>>
>>> vijay wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have to build a tool which can generate UML diagrams from code,
>>>> Like class Hierarchy, Class relations, Sequence diagrams etc.
>>>>
>>>> Can any body give me directions in terms of frameworks which could be
>>>> directly used with minimum code changes or without any changes.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>
>>
>>
Re: UML Diagram Generation [message #573349 is a reply to message #1224] Tue, 23 June 2009 23:35 Go to previous message
Krzysztof Kowalczyk is currently offline Krzysztof Kowalczyk
Messages: 113
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
> I have tryed modisco but the uml diagram which i expect to be drawn are
> different from what it draws(Tree structure)...

I am confused ;)

MoDisco does not draw uml diagrams, it creates the UML model ('.uml'
file). UMLTools and Papyrus can draw (initialize) diagrams based on that
model. Then you can do whatever you want with such diagrams.

Regards,
Krzysztof Kowalczyk
Re: UML Diagram Generation [message #573377 is a reply to message #1293] Wed, 24 June 2009 04:13 Go to previous message
vijay is currently offline vijay
Messages: 22
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Yes you are right,

I need help in my own custom UML model generation as well as UML diagram
generation..

My Uml model should contain all relationship,Hierarchy,Sequence info...
And my UML editor should be able to render the same in a traditional
way(with all decorations and all that) also with proper placement and
resizing of diagrams which UMLTool/papyrus lack...

Krzysztof Kowalczyk wrote:

>> I have tryed modisco but the uml diagram which i expect to be drawn are
>> different from what it draws(Tree structure)...

> I am confused ;)

> MoDisco does not draw uml diagrams, it creates the UML model ('.uml'
> file). UMLTools and Papyrus can draw (initialize) diagrams based on that
> model. Then you can do whatever you want with such diagrams.

> Regards,
> Krzysztof Kowalczyk
Re: UML Diagram Generation [message #573403 is a reply to message #1273] Fri, 26 June 2009 15:24 Go to previous message
Gabriel BARBIER is currently offline Gabriel BARBIER
Messages: 106
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hello Vijay
Firstly, if you would like to perform transformation from UML models (*.uml) to Papyrus models (*.di2), this is of high
interest to me ! Just get in touch.

And to be sure I correctly understand you answer :

> the meta model has class Hierarchy,method call
> hierarchy,relation ship info etc.

Does it means that you consider J2SE5, KDM and UML don't have these informations ?

From my experience of these metamodels and discovered models, I think that J2SE5 and KDM models contains enough
informations / relationships to compute a hierarchy graph. The point would be to complete the UML model with these
informations.


And if you want to write a specific metamodel with these informations, you will have also to compute these informations
from J2SE5 models or other java models or to have a specific parser.
In this case, I believe that th best tool to generate an editor would be GMF (GEMS is not enough mature and GEF is too
generic).

Regards,
Gabriel

PS: about scalability, I think EMF is the main point, we are trying CDO to bypass some issues.

vijay wrote:
> Thank you very much for your responses.
>
> My requirements match more with Papyrus UML tool...
>
> I tryed creating KDM,J2SE5,UML models and tryed to open them using UML
> tool and Papyrus.
>
> I think for my requirement it would be better to modify the discoverers
> so that the meta model has class Hierarchy,method call
> hierarchy,relation ship info etc.
>
> also using the above model i should write my own editor/view which can
> show the model as per my requirement...
>
> For this which framework should i use GMF or GEF????
>
> The only problem i think would be it takes a lot of time to discover a
> model for a small project let alone big projects...
>
> Gabriel wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I think that UML2Tools could be a good choice as it automatically creates
> and initializes diagrams from existing model
>> (to validate your models).
>> And of course MoDisco is the best to create models, its structure lets
>> you
> modify and configure existing discoverers
>> easily, as for instant we only provide class informations but you could
> improve these tools to add sequence informations
>> as well.
>
>> So for me, you should try combination of MoDisco and UML2Tools (see
>> example
> plugin
>> org.eclipse.gmt.modisco.usecases.modelfilter).
>
>> Regards
>> Gabriel
>
>> vijay wrote:
>>> I have tryed modisco but the uml diagram which i expect to be drawn
>>> are different from what it draws(Tree structure)...
>>>
>>> even if have to draw then i have to use the model generated which i
>>> think is as good as using the JDT project hirarcy classes..
>>>
>>> i am planning to use UML2Tools as my target tool, but my requirement
>>> is only to generate not to draw and modify...
>>>
>>> Also in EMF,GMF,GEF,modisco,UML2 which frameworks should i
>>> concentrate more on...(i am new to the modeling frameworks)
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot for your help...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gabriel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> In MoDisco examples, you could see some discoverers from Java or C# to
>>> specific models, then to KDM models and finally
>>>> to UML models.
>>>> Perhaps could you reproduce the same schema with UML diagrams.
>>>> And just a question, have you already choosen the target tool for UML
>>> diagrams ? for example, in eclipse there is
>>>> UML2Tools and Papyrus.
>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>> Gabriel
>>>
>>>> vijay wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have to build a tool which can generate UML diagrams from code,
>>>>> Like class Hierarchy, Class relations, Sequence diagrams etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can any body give me directions in terms of frameworks which could
>>>>> be directly used with minimum code changes or without any changes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
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