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proposal: compactable workflow parts [message #12917] Fri, 13 January 2006 08:29 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: vgv8.yahoo.com.br

One of the biggest problems with real, i.e. big, workflows is
their difficulty to be visualized in one piece, i.e. in one screen, and
therefore to work with/design them.
It would be comfortable to have the feature of chhosing the part of workflow
for shrinking/minimizing to one block, element. This make sense both for
graphic representation and serialization /exporting, importing part of
workflow). I think this also make sense for workflow engines.

I believe I saw it also in BPMN

Guennadi Vanine
Re: proposal: compactable workflow parts [message #13015 is a reply to message #12917] Fri, 13 January 2006 09:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: allenmacyoung.gmail.com

Guennadi:

Yes, there is. Pool and lane of BPMN are useful for this. We can fold them
up to save space.

"Guennadi Vanine" <vgv8@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message
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> One of the biggest problems with real, i.e. big, workflows is
> their difficulty to be visualized in one piece, i.e. in one screen, and
> therefore to work with/design them.
> It would be comfortable to have the feature of chhosing the part of
> workflow for shrinking/minimizing to one block, element. This make sense
> both for graphic representation and serialization /exporting, importing
> part of workflow). I think this also make sense for workflow engines.
>
> I believe I saw it also in BPMN
>
> Guennadi Vanine
>
>
Dril-Down Diagrams/Composite Activity [message #15206 is a reply to message #13015] Sat, 14 January 2006 20:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: vgv8.yahoo.com.br

What I had in mind was WWF (.NET) composite activities though I found a
similar approach in Oracle JDeveloper (Drill-Down Diagram or Composite
Activity):
http://www.oracle.com/webapps/online-help/jdeveloper/10.1.3/ state/content/navId.4/navSetId._/vtTopicFile.umlmodeling%7Cu mlmodeling%7Camod_p_create_drilldown%7Ehtml/
Re: Dril-Down Diagrams/Composite Activity [message #15344 is a reply to message #15206] Sat, 14 January 2006 23:47 Go to previous message
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Originally posted by: vgv8.yahoo.com.br

In comment to Fabrice's note in "Wrap Up" post:
"second, as Allen reported in reply to Guennadi, BPMN proposes to fold
up Pool and lane which would be helpful for addressing large workflows
which don't fit into one screen."

Well, I have 4-display monitor and the problem is not fitting in just one
screen...

Complex workflows is just impossible to arrange in any order and track in
designer.
They are a mess of connections ...
Guennadi Vanine
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