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Why does activating a task not open it? [message #11076] Fri, 13 July 2007 11:06 Go to next message
David Goodenough is currently offline David Goodenough
Messages: 155
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Much is made of the "one click" activation, but if I right click
on an inactive task and Activate it the task is not opened into the
editor. Is there a reason why it does not?

Also does Activating a task Deactivate the task that was previously open?
i.e. can only one task be active at a time. If not, how do I find a list
of the currently active tasks?

David
Re: Why does activating a task not open it? [message #11084 is a reply to message #11076] Fri, 13 July 2007 12:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: beatmik.acm.org

David Goodenough wrote:
> Much is made of the "one click" activation, but if I right click
> on an inactive task and Activate it the task is not opened into the
> editor. Is there a reason why it does not?

Good question. We keep trying to figure out a way to make this work,
but there are two competing use cases for what happens when getting back
to a task:
1) Want to see the last thing I worked on (e.g. the exact Java method
being edited) and want my workbench look just like it did when I
deactivated.
2) Need to be reminded of what the task is a bout (i.e. by looking at
the task itself).

So the current policy is to restore your editors to exactly what they
were when you deactivated. But this means that I find myself clicking
the task hyperlink in the Task List view quite frequently when , and am
thankful that it tends to be wide ;)

Anyone have any ideas for how to improve this policy? We go as far as
doing something fancy like restoring editors but forcing the task editor
to be the 2nd editor.

> Also does Activating a task Deactivate the task that was previously open?
> i.e. can only one task be active at a time. If not, how do I find a list
> of the currently active tasks?

Yes, only one task can be active. Mylyn 0.2 allowed multiple active
task but the UI ended up way too complex as a result so we axes this.

For switching between recently activated tasks use the switcher visible
in the upper-right of the third screenshot at:
http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/new/

Mik
Re: Why does activating a task not open it? [message #12461 is a reply to message #11084] Fri, 13 July 2007 14:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Goodenough is currently offline David Goodenough
Messages: 155
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Mik Kersten wrote:

> David Goodenough wrote:
>> Much is made of the "one click" activation, but if I right click
>> on an inactive task and Activate it the task is not opened into the
>> editor. Is there a reason why it does not?
>
> Good question. We keep trying to figure out a way to make this work,
> but there are two competing use cases for what happens when getting back
> to a task:
> 1) Want to see the last thing I worked on (e.g. the exact Java method
> being edited) and want my workbench look just like it did when I
> deactivated.
> 2) Need to be reminded of what the task is a bout (i.e. by looking at
> the task itself).
>
> So the current policy is to restore your editors to exactly what they
> were when you deactivated. But this means that I find myself clicking
> the task hyperlink in the Task List view quite frequently when , and am
> thankful that it tends to be wide ;)
>
> Anyone have any ideas for how to improve this policy? We go as far as
> doing something fancy like restoring editors but forcing the task editor
> to be the 2nd editor.
When re-opening a Task the behaviour is fine, the problem is when you first
open a Task.

David
>
>> Also does Activating a task Deactivate the task that was previously open?
>> i.e. can only one task be active at a time. If not, how do I find a list
>> of the currently active tasks?
>
> Yes, only one task can be active. Mylyn 0.2 allowed multiple active
> task but the UI ended up way too complex as a result so we axes this.
>
> For switching between recently activated tasks use the switcher visible
> in the upper-right of the third screenshot at:
> http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/new/
>
> Mik
Re: Why does activating a task not open it? [message #12502 is a reply to message #11084] Fri, 13 July 2007 14:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: xiaoyang.guan.gmail.com

Mik Kersten wrote:
> So the current policy is to restore your editors to exactly what they
> were when you deactivated. But this means that I find myself clicking
> the task hyperlink in the Task List view quite frequently when , and am
> thankful that it tends to be wide ;)
>
> Anyone have any ideas for how to improve this policy? We go as far as
> doing something fancy like restoring editors but forcing the task editor
> to be the 2nd editor.

How about a simple click to activate a task will restore editors exactly
as when they were last deactivated; and Ctrl+click (or some other
combination if this is already used for another purpose) to activate
will open the task editor on top of the others?

Xiaoyang
Re: Why does activating a task not open it? [message #12523 is a reply to message #12502] Fri, 13 July 2007 15:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: beatmik.acm.org

Xiaoyang Guan wrote:
> How about a simple click to activate a task will restore editors exactly
> as when they were last deactivated; and Ctrl+click (or some other
> combination if this is already used for another purpose) to activate
> will open the task editor on top of the others?

Sounds good go me. It may be an advanced and hard to discover UI and we
might have some challenges picking the right modifier key without losing
existing tree functionality, but the bottom line is that some version of
this will provide users with an an open/activate mode that brings the
task to the top. Please file a bug.

Mik
Re: Why does activating a task not open it? [message #12544 is a reply to message #12461] Fri, 13 July 2007 15:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: beatmik.acm.org

David Goodenough wrote:
> When re-opening a Task the behaviour is fine, the problem is when you first
> open a Task.

What would be very straightforward to do, and should meet both your need
and existing expectations, is to automatically open the editor on
activation when there are no other relevant editors available to open
(i.e. you were not working on anything previously). If you like this
suggestions please file a bug.

Mik
Re: Why does activating a task not open it? [message #14027 is a reply to message #12523] Mon, 16 July 2007 14:55 Go to previous message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: xiaoyang.guan.gmail.com

Mik Kersten wrote:
> Xiaoyang Guan wrote:
>> How about a simple click to activate a task will restore editors
>> exactly as when they were last deactivated; and Ctrl+click (or some
>> other combination if this is already used for another purpose) to
>> activate will open the task editor on top of the others?
>
> Sounds good go me. It may be an advanced and hard to discover UI and we
> might have some challenges picking the right modifier key without losing
> existing tree functionality, but the bottom line is that some version of
> this will provide users with an an open/activate mode that brings the
> task to the top. Please file a bug.
>
> Mik
>

Done -- bug 196711: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=196711
Re: Why does activating a task not open it? [message #571541 is a reply to message #11076] Fri, 13 July 2007 12:33 Go to previous message
Mik Kersten is currently offline Mik Kersten
Messages: 287
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
David Goodenough wrote:
> Much is made of the "one click" activation, but if I right click
> on an inactive task and Activate it the task is not opened into the
> editor. Is there a reason why it does not?

Good question. We keep trying to figure out a way to make this work,
but there are two competing use cases for what happens when getting back
to a task:
1) Want to see the last thing I worked on (e.g. the exact Java method
being edited) and want my workbench look just like it did when I
deactivated.
2) Need to be reminded of what the task is a bout (i.e. by looking at
the task itself).

So the current policy is to restore your editors to exactly what they
were when you deactivated. But this means that I find myself clicking
the task hyperlink in the Task List view quite frequently when , and am
thankful that it tends to be wide ;)

Anyone have any ideas for how to improve this policy? We go as far as
doing something fancy like restoring editors but forcing the task editor
to be the 2nd editor.

> Also does Activating a task Deactivate the task that was previously open?
> i.e. can only one task be active at a time. If not, how do I find a list
> of the currently active tasks?

Yes, only one task can be active. Mylyn 0.2 allowed multiple active
task but the UI ended up way too complex as a result so we axes this.

For switching between recently activated tasks use the switcher visible
in the upper-right of the third screenshot at:
http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/new/

Mik
Re: Why does activating a task not open it? [message #571609 is a reply to message #11084] Fri, 13 July 2007 14:12 Go to previous message
David Goodenough is currently offline David Goodenough
Messages: 155
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Mik Kersten wrote:

> David Goodenough wrote:
>> Much is made of the "one click" activation, but if I right click
>> on an inactive task and Activate it the task is not opened into the
>> editor. Is there a reason why it does not?
>
> Good question. We keep trying to figure out a way to make this work,
> but there are two competing use cases for what happens when getting back
> to a task:
> 1) Want to see the last thing I worked on (e.g. the exact Java method
> being edited) and want my workbench look just like it did when I
> deactivated.
> 2) Need to be reminded of what the task is a bout (i.e. by looking at
> the task itself).
>
> So the current policy is to restore your editors to exactly what they
> were when you deactivated. But this means that I find myself clicking
> the task hyperlink in the Task List view quite frequently when , and am
> thankful that it tends to be wide ;)
>
> Anyone have any ideas for how to improve this policy? We go as far as
> doing something fancy like restoring editors but forcing the task editor
> to be the 2nd editor.
When re-opening a Task the behaviour is fine, the problem is when you first
open a Task.

David
>
>> Also does Activating a task Deactivate the task that was previously open?
>> i.e. can only one task be active at a time. If not, how do I find a list
>> of the currently active tasks?
>
> Yes, only one task can be active. Mylyn 0.2 allowed multiple active
> task but the UI ended up way too complex as a result so we axes this.
>
> For switching between recently activated tasks use the switcher visible
> in the upper-right of the third screenshot at:
> http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/new/
>
> Mik
Re: Why does activating a task not open it? [message #571702 is a reply to message #11084] Fri, 13 July 2007 14:42 Go to previous message
Xiaoyang Guan is currently offline Xiaoyang Guan
Messages: 5
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Mik Kersten wrote:
> So the current policy is to restore your editors to exactly what they
> were when you deactivated. But this means that I find myself clicking
> the task hyperlink in the Task List view quite frequently when , and am
> thankful that it tends to be wide ;)
>
> Anyone have any ideas for how to improve this policy? We go as far as
> doing something fancy like restoring editors but forcing the task editor
> to be the 2nd editor.

How about a simple click to activate a task will restore editors exactly
as when they were last deactivated; and Ctrl+click (or some other
combination if this is already used for another purpose) to activate
will open the task editor on top of the others?

Xiaoyang
Re: Why does activating a task not open it? [message #571735 is a reply to message #12502] Fri, 13 July 2007 15:02 Go to previous message
Mik Kersten is currently offline Mik Kersten
Messages: 287
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Xiaoyang Guan wrote:
> How about a simple click to activate a task will restore editors exactly
> as when they were last deactivated; and Ctrl+click (or some other
> combination if this is already used for another purpose) to activate
> will open the task editor on top of the others?

Sounds good go me. It may be an advanced and hard to discover UI and we
might have some challenges picking the right modifier key without losing
existing tree functionality, but the bottom line is that some version of
this will provide users with an an open/activate mode that brings the
task to the top. Please file a bug.

Mik
Re: Why does activating a task not open it? [message #571773 is a reply to message #12461] Fri, 13 July 2007 15:04 Go to previous message
Mik Kersten is currently offline Mik Kersten
Messages: 287
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
David Goodenough wrote:
> When re-opening a Task the behaviour is fine, the problem is when you first
> open a Task.

What would be very straightforward to do, and should meet both your need
and existing expectations, is to automatically open the editor on
activation when there are no other relevant editors available to open
(i.e. you were not working on anything previously). If you like this
suggestions please file a bug.

Mik
Re: Why does activating a task not open it? [message #572252 is a reply to message #12523] Mon, 16 July 2007 14:55 Go to previous message
Xiaoyang Guan is currently offline Xiaoyang Guan
Messages: 5
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Mik Kersten wrote:
> Xiaoyang Guan wrote:
>> How about a simple click to activate a task will restore editors
>> exactly as when they were last deactivated; and Ctrl+click (or some
>> other combination if this is already used for another purpose) to
>> activate will open the task editor on top of the others?
>
> Sounds good go me. It may be an advanced and hard to discover UI and we
> might have some challenges picking the right modifier key without losing
> existing tree functionality, but the bottom line is that some version of
> this will provide users with an an open/activate mode that brings the
> task to the top. Please file a bug.
>
> Mik
>

Done -- bug 196711: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=196711
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