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Edit source code... [message #10901] Fri, 09 December 2005 17:16 Go to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: steven.t.novakovich.nokia.com

Hi all,

MTJ's "edit source code" features (i.e. source editor features) should
take into account the needs of the mobile developer.

Can I have some input from the group about *what* kind of needs the
mobile developer might/would have, in terms of source code editing?

Thanks.

:Steven Novakovich in Dallas
Re: Edit source code... [message #10953 is a reply to message #10901] Wed, 14 December 2005 13:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fred Grott is currently offline Fred Grott
Messages: 96
Registered: July 2009
Member
Will review user cases with this in mind today and add input..



Steven Novakovich wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> MTJ's "edit source code" features (i.e. source editor features) should
> take into account the needs of the mobile developer.
>
> Can I have some input from the group about *what* kind of needs the
> mobile developer might/would have, in terms of source code editing?
>
> Thanks.
>
> :Steven Novakovich in Dallas
Re: Edit source code... [message #10964 is a reply to message #10953] Wed, 14 December 2005 19:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: steven.t.novakovich.nokia.com

Fred Grott wrote:
> Will review user cases with this in mind today and add input..
>
>
>
> Steven Novakovich wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> MTJ's "edit source code" features (i.e. source editor features) should
>> take into account the needs of the mobile developer.
>>
>> Can I have some input from the group about *what* kind of needs the
>> mobile developer might/would have, in terms of source code editing?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> :Steven Novakovich in Dallas

Thank you, Fred.

:Steven in Dallas
Re: Edit source code... [message #10977 is a reply to message #10901] Wed, 14 December 2005 19:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: csetera.spss.com

Steven,

It seems to me that source code editing is pretty much identical for the
mobile cases versus standard JDT. The only place I see a potential for
some added functionality is when we eventually move into handling the
"device fragmentation" cases. In those cases, I presume we will have
some amount of preprocessing directives. In those cases, I think we
will want to have a few more things:

- Content assist for the preprocessing directives
- Syntax highlighting for preprocessing directives, including
highlighting of conditional blocks that are not currently enabled
- Folding of conditional blocks to hide blocks that are not of interest
in the current configuration

Those are the things I can think of off the top of my head. Those are
all longer term issues that I don't see being tackled in an early
release. I do think it makes sense to figure some of this out, even if
it is not going to be added to the project in the short term.

Craig

Steven Novakovich wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> MTJ's "edit source code" features (i.e. source editor features) should
> take into account the needs of the mobile developer.
>
> Can I have some input from the group about *what* kind of needs the
> mobile developer might/would have, in terms of source code editing?
>
> Thanks.
>
> :Steven Novakovich in Dallas
Re: Edit source code... [message #10990 is a reply to message #10977] Thu, 15 December 2005 23:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: steven.t.novakovich.nokia.com

Craig Setera wrote:
> Steven,
>
> It seems to me that source code editing is pretty much identical for the
> mobile cases versus standard JDT. The only place I see a potential for
> some added functionality is when we eventually move into handling the
> "device fragmentation" cases. In those cases, I presume we will have
> some amount of preprocessing directives. In those cases, I think we
> will want to have a few more things:
>
> - Content assist for the preprocessing directives
> - Syntax highlighting for preprocessing directives, including
> highlighting of conditional blocks that are not currently enabled
> - Folding of conditional blocks to hide blocks that are not of interest
> in the current configuration
>
> Those are the things I can think of off the top of my head. Those are
> all longer term issues that I don't see being tackled in an early
> release. I do think it makes sense to figure some of this out, even if
> it is not going to be added to the project in the short term.
>
> Craig
>
> Steven Novakovich wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> MTJ's "edit source code" features (i.e. source editor features) should
>> take into account the needs of the mobile developer.
>>
>> Can I have some input from the group about *what* kind of needs the
>> mobile developer might/would have, in terms of source code editing?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> :Steven Novakovich in Dallas

Thanks for your input, Craig.

:Steven in Dallas
Re: Edit source code... [message #11077 is a reply to message #10977] Thu, 26 January 2006 03:44 Go to previous message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: spam.breakfast.ca

Hello all, I am an interested J2ME developer that plans to follow this
project from an arms length (mainly as I don't have time to delve much
deeper) but will throw my 2c in when I see something relevant to me.

I agree with Craig but I see those as high priority in terms of source
code editing. I use Eclipse for my daily J2ME coding and my biggest
headache is lack of support for preprocessor directives.

Antenna is a widely used J2ME tool and I think it would be wise to adopt
it's preprocessor style (which, I'm told, is basically the same as the
standard C preprocessor).

Advanced preprocessing in the form of Macro expansion -- our tools team
has hacked up Antenna somewhat for that =) -- would be another big plus
but I would rank that lower priority then the basic preproc directive
parsing.


Craig Setera wrote:
> Steven,
>
> It seems to me that source code editing is pretty much identical for the
> mobile cases versus standard JDT. The only place I see a potential for
> some added functionality is when we eventually move into handling the
> "device fragmentation" cases. In those cases, I presume we will have
> some amount of preprocessing directives. In those cases, I think we
> will want to have a few more things:
>
> - Content assist for the preprocessing directives
> - Syntax highlighting for preprocessing directives, including
> highlighting of conditional blocks that are not currently enabled
> - Folding of conditional blocks to hide blocks that are not of interest
> in the current configuration
>
> Those are the things I can think of off the top of my head. Those are
> all longer term issues that I don't see being tackled in an early
> release. I do think it makes sense to figure some of this out, even if
> it is not going to be added to the project in the short term.
>
> Craig
>
> Steven Novakovich wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> MTJ's "edit source code" features (i.e. source editor features) should
>> take into account the needs of the mobile developer.
>>
>> Can I have some input from the group about *what* kind of needs the
>> mobile developer might/would have, in terms of source code editing?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> :Steven Novakovich in Dallas
Re: Edit source code... [message #563282 is a reply to message #10901] Wed, 14 December 2005 13:19 Go to previous message
Fred Grott is currently offline Fred Grott
Messages: 96
Registered: July 2009
Member
Will review user cases with this in mind today and add input..



Steven Novakovich wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> MTJ's "edit source code" features (i.e. source editor features) should
> take into account the needs of the mobile developer.
>
> Can I have some input from the group about *what* kind of needs the
> mobile developer might/would have, in terms of source code editing?
>
> Thanks.
>
> :Steven Novakovich in Dallas
Re: Edit source code... [message #563311 is a reply to message #10953] Wed, 14 December 2005 19:15 Go to previous message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: steven.t.novakovich.nokia.com

Fred Grott wrote:
> Will review user cases with this in mind today and add input..
>
>
>
> Steven Novakovich wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> MTJ's "edit source code" features (i.e. source editor features) should
>> take into account the needs of the mobile developer.
>>
>> Can I have some input from the group about *what* kind of needs the
>> mobile developer might/would have, in terms of source code editing?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> :Steven Novakovich in Dallas

Thank you, Fred.

:Steven in Dallas
Re: Edit source code... [message #563332 is a reply to message #10901] Wed, 14 December 2005 19:32 Go to previous message
Craig Setera is currently offline Craig Setera
Messages: 54
Registered: July 2009
Member
Steven,

It seems to me that source code editing is pretty much identical for the
mobile cases versus standard JDT. The only place I see a potential for
some added functionality is when we eventually move into handling the
"device fragmentation" cases. In those cases, I presume we will have
some amount of preprocessing directives. In those cases, I think we
will want to have a few more things:

- Content assist for the preprocessing directives
- Syntax highlighting for preprocessing directives, including
highlighting of conditional blocks that are not currently enabled
- Folding of conditional blocks to hide blocks that are not of interest
in the current configuration

Those are the things I can think of off the top of my head. Those are
all longer term issues that I don't see being tackled in an early
release. I do think it makes sense to figure some of this out, even if
it is not going to be added to the project in the short term.

Craig

Steven Novakovich wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> MTJ's "edit source code" features (i.e. source editor features) should
> take into account the needs of the mobile developer.
>
> Can I have some input from the group about *what* kind of needs the
> mobile developer might/would have, in terms of source code editing?
>
> Thanks.
>
> :Steven Novakovich in Dallas
Re: Edit source code... [message #563355 is a reply to message #10977] Thu, 15 December 2005 23:47 Go to previous message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: steven.t.novakovich.nokia.com

Craig Setera wrote:
> Steven,
>
> It seems to me that source code editing is pretty much identical for the
> mobile cases versus standard JDT. The only place I see a potential for
> some added functionality is when we eventually move into handling the
> "device fragmentation" cases. In those cases, I presume we will have
> some amount of preprocessing directives. In those cases, I think we
> will want to have a few more things:
>
> - Content assist for the preprocessing directives
> - Syntax highlighting for preprocessing directives, including
> highlighting of conditional blocks that are not currently enabled
> - Folding of conditional blocks to hide blocks that are not of interest
> in the current configuration
>
> Those are the things I can think of off the top of my head. Those are
> all longer term issues that I don't see being tackled in an early
> release. I do think it makes sense to figure some of this out, even if
> it is not going to be added to the project in the short term.
>
> Craig
>
> Steven Novakovich wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> MTJ's "edit source code" features (i.e. source editor features) should
>> take into account the needs of the mobile developer.
>>
>> Can I have some input from the group about *what* kind of needs the
>> mobile developer might/would have, in terms of source code editing?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> :Steven Novakovich in Dallas

Thanks for your input, Craig.

:Steven in Dallas
Re: Edit source code... [message #563518 is a reply to message #10977] Thu, 26 January 2006 03:44 Go to previous message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: spam.breakfast.ca

Hello all, I am an interested J2ME developer that plans to follow this
project from an arms length (mainly as I don't have time to delve much
deeper) but will throw my 2c in when I see something relevant to me.

I agree with Craig but I see those as high priority in terms of source
code editing. I use Eclipse for my daily J2ME coding and my biggest
headache is lack of support for preprocessor directives.

Antenna is a widely used J2ME tool and I think it would be wise to adopt
it's preprocessor style (which, I'm told, is basically the same as the
standard C preprocessor).

Advanced preprocessing in the form of Macro expansion -- our tools team
has hacked up Antenna somewhat for that =) -- would be another big plus
but I would rank that lower priority then the basic preproc directive
parsing.


Craig Setera wrote:
> Steven,
>
> It seems to me that source code editing is pretty much identical for the
> mobile cases versus standard JDT. The only place I see a potential for
> some added functionality is when we eventually move into handling the
> "device fragmentation" cases. In those cases, I presume we will have
> some amount of preprocessing directives. In those cases, I think we
> will want to have a few more things:
>
> - Content assist for the preprocessing directives
> - Syntax highlighting for preprocessing directives, including
> highlighting of conditional blocks that are not currently enabled
> - Folding of conditional blocks to hide blocks that are not of interest
> in the current configuration
>
> Those are the things I can think of off the top of my head. Those are
> all longer term issues that I don't see being tackled in an early
> release. I do think it makes sense to figure some of this out, even if
> it is not going to be added to the project in the short term.
>
> Craig
>
> Steven Novakovich wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> MTJ's "edit source code" features (i.e. source editor features) should
>> take into account the needs of the mobile developer.
>>
>> Can I have some input from the group about *what* kind of needs the
>> mobile developer might/would have, in terms of source code editing?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> :Steven Novakovich in Dallas
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