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ORMF will not be joining the OSEE project at this time [message #10693] Wed, 14 May 2008 11:20 Go to next message
Joel Rosi-Schwartz is currently offline Joel Rosi-Schwartz
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Registered: July 2009
Location: London. England
Senior Member
The ORMF team has taken the decision that pursuing a close
collaboration with the OSEE team and achieving a tight integration of
ORMF into the OSEE framework is not feasible at this time. There are
several reasons for this decision the most important being that the
ORMF team simply lacks the resources to achieve that goal now. It is
also felt that in the near term it is best for the team to achieve a
deliverable based on existing code base for Useme that is being donated
by Etish Limited. In doing so the ORMF team will be able to quickly
deliver a useable system to the community which will stimulate
feedback. A scoping exercise based on this feedback will enable the
ORMF team will select the feature set of and formulate the project plan
for the 1.0 release of ORMF.

I would like to make it clear that this decision is in no way a
criticism of the value or viability of the OSEE project. In fact I
personally hope that downstream the ORMF project will be in a position
to reconsider this decision.

I would personally like to thank Don, Ryan and the rest of the OSEE
team for their initial invitation to join them and for all of the
support they have provided over the past weeks.

Joel
--
Joel Rosi-Schwartz
Etish Limited [http://www.etish.org]
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/ o,o \ The proud parents of Useme
|) ::: (| The Open Requirements Management Tool
====w=w==== [https://useme.dev.java.net]
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Re: ORMF will not be joining the OSEE project at this time [message #10789 is a reply to message #10693] Wed, 14 May 2008 12:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Barbara Rosi-Schwartz is currently offline Barbara Rosi-Schwartz
Messages: 448
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
On 2008-05-14 12:20:46 +0100, Joel Rosi-Schwartz
<Joel.Rosi-Schwartz@Etish.org> said:

> The ORMF team has taken the decision that pursuing a close
> collaboration with the OSEE team and achieving a tight integration of
> ORMF into the OSEE framework is not feasible at this time. There are
> several reasons for this decision the most important being that the
> ORMF team simply lacks the resources to achieve that goal now. It is
> also felt that in the near term it is best for the team to achieve a
> deliverable based on existing code base for Useme that is being donated
> by Etish Limited. In doing so the ORMF team will be able to quickly
> deliver a useable system to the community which will stimulate
> feedback. A scoping exercise based on this feedback will enable the
> ORMF team will select the feature set of and formulate the project plan
> for the 1.0 release of ORMF.
>
> I would like to make it clear that this decision is in no way a
> criticism of the value or viability of the OSEE project. In fact I
> personally hope that downstream the ORMF project will be in a position
> to reconsider this decision.
>
> I would personally like to thank Don, Ryan and the rest of the OSEE
> team for their initial invitation to join them and for all of the
> support they have provided over the past weeks.
>
> Joel

I would like to join Joel in thanking the OSEE team for their openness
towards ORMF, for their welcome and for their support in recent weeks.

I sure hope we will have another opportunity to join efforts.

B.

--
                                  Barbara Rosi-Schwartz
                   Etish Limited [http://www.etish.org]
Blog: http://www.brs4etish.blogspot.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
   ^...^
 /  o,o  \       The proud parents of Useme
 |) ::: (|       The Open Requirements Management Tool
====w=w====      [https://useme.dev.java.net]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Re: ORMF will not be joining the OSEE project at this time [message #11932 is a reply to message #10693] Fri, 16 May 2008 15:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anders W. Tell is currently offline Anders W. Tell
Messages: 69
Registered: July 2009
Member
Hi,

Sorry to hear that scarce resources prevent collaboration. What are your
ideas towards collaboration with the UML and Papyrus project. Are they
also put on hold?

thanks
/anders



Joel Rosi-Schwartz wrote:
> The ORMF team has taken the decision that pursuing a close collaboration
> with the OSEE team and achieving a tight integration of ORMF into the
> OSEE framework is not feasible at this time. There are several reasons
> for this decision the most important being that the ORMF team simply
> lacks the resources to achieve that goal now. It is also felt that in
> the near term it is best for the team to achieve a deliverable based on
> existing code base for Useme that is being donated by Etish Limited. In
> doing so the ORMF team will be able to quickly deliver a useable system
> to the community which will stimulate feedback. A scoping exercise based
> on this feedback will enable the ORMF team will select the feature set
> of and formulate the project plan for the 1.0 release of ORMF.
>
> I would like to make it clear that this decision is in no way a
> criticism of the value or viability of the OSEE project. In fact I
> personally hope that downstream the ORMF project will be in a position
> to reconsider this decision.
>
> I would personally like to thank Don, Ryan and the rest of the OSEE team
> for their initial invitation to join them and for all of the support
> they have provided over the past weeks.
>
> Joel
Re: ORMF will not be joining the OSEE project at this time [message #11945 is a reply to message #11932] Sat, 17 May 2008 17:00 Go to previous message
Joel Rosi-Schwartz is currently offline Joel Rosi-Schwartz
Messages: 624
Registered: July 2009
Location: London. England
Senior Member
Hi Anders,

Not at all sure. Once we get into a scoping exercise we will be in a
better position to understand what we can and cannot take on.

Joel

On 2008-05-16 16:46:42 +0100, "Anders W.Tell" <opensource@toolsmiths.se> said:

> Hi,
>
> Sorry to hear that scarce resources prevent collaboration. What are
> your ideas towards collaboration with the UML and Papyrus project. Are
> they also put on hold?
>
> thanks
> /anders
>
>
>
> Joel Rosi-Schwartz wrote:
>> The ORMF team has taken the decision that pursuing a close
>> collaboration with the OSEE team and achieving a tight integration of
>> ORMF into the OSEE framework is not feasible at this time. There are
>> several reasons for this decision the most important being that the
>> ORMF team simply lacks the resources to achieve that goal now. It is
>> also felt that in the near term it is best for the team to achieve a
>> deliverable based on existing code base for Useme that is being donated
>> by Etish Limited. In doing so the ORMF team will be able to quickly
>> deliver a useable system to the community which will stimulate
>> feedback. A scoping exercise based on this feedback will enable the
>> ORMF team will select the feature set of and formulate the project plan
>> for the 1.0 release of ORMF.
>>
>> I would like to make it clear that this decision is in no way a
>> criticism of the value or viability of the OSEE project. In fact I
>> personally hope that downstream the ORMF project will be in a position
>> to reconsider this decision.
>>
>> I would personally like to thank Don, Ryan and the rest of the OSEE
>> team for their initial invitation to join them and for all of the
>> support they have provided over the past weeks.
>>
>> Joel


--
Joel Rosi-Schwartz
Etish Limited [http://www.etish.org]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
^...^
/ o,o \ The proud parents of Useme
|) ::: (| The Open Requirements Management Tool
====w=w==== [https://useme.dev.java.net]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Re: ORMF will not be joining the OSEE project at this time [message #563804 is a reply to message #10693] Wed, 14 May 2008 12:23 Go to previous message
Barbara Rosi-Schwartz is currently offline Barbara Rosi-Schwartz
Messages: 448
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
On 2008-05-14 12:20:46 +0100, Joel Rosi-Schwartz
<Joel.Rosi-Schwartz@Etish.org> said:

> The ORMF team has taken the decision that pursuing a close
> collaboration with the OSEE team and achieving a tight integration of
> ORMF into the OSEE framework is not feasible at this time. There are
> several reasons for this decision the most important being that the
> ORMF team simply lacks the resources to achieve that goal now. It is
> also felt that in the near term it is best for the team to achieve a
> deliverable based on existing code base for Useme that is being donated
> by Etish Limited. In doing so the ORMF team will be able to quickly
> deliver a useable system to the community which will stimulate
> feedback. A scoping exercise based on this feedback will enable the
> ORMF team will select the feature set of and formulate the project plan
> for the 1.0 release of ORMF.
>
> I would like to make it clear that this decision is in no way a
> criticism of the value or viability of the OSEE project. In fact I
> personally hope that downstream the ORMF project will be in a position
> to reconsider this decision.
>
> I would personally like to thank Don, Ryan and the rest of the OSEE
> team for their initial invitation to join them and for all of the
> support they have provided over the past weeks.
>
> Joel

I would like to join Joel in thanking the OSEE team for their openness
towards ORMF, for their welcome and for their support in recent weeks.

I sure hope we will have another opportunity to join efforts.

B.

--
                                  Barbara Rosi-Schwartz
                   Etish Limited [http://www.etish.org]
Blog: http://www.brs4etish.blogspot.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
   ^...^
 /  o,o  \       The proud parents of Useme
 |) ::: (|       The Open Requirements Management Tool
====w=w====      [https://useme.dev.java.net]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Re: ORMF will not be joining the OSEE project at this time [message #563825 is a reply to message #10693] Fri, 16 May 2008 15:46 Go to previous message
Anders W. Tell is currently offline Anders W. Tell
Messages: 69
Registered: July 2009
Member
Hi,

Sorry to hear that scarce resources prevent collaboration. What are your
ideas towards collaboration with the UML and Papyrus project. Are they
also put on hold?

thanks
/anders



Joel Rosi-Schwartz wrote:
> The ORMF team has taken the decision that pursuing a close collaboration
> with the OSEE team and achieving a tight integration of ORMF into the
> OSEE framework is not feasible at this time. There are several reasons
> for this decision the most important being that the ORMF team simply
> lacks the resources to achieve that goal now. It is also felt that in
> the near term it is best for the team to achieve a deliverable based on
> existing code base for Useme that is being donated by Etish Limited. In
> doing so the ORMF team will be able to quickly deliver a useable system
> to the community which will stimulate feedback. A scoping exercise based
> on this feedback will enable the ORMF team will select the feature set
> of and formulate the project plan for the 1.0 release of ORMF.
>
> I would like to make it clear that this decision is in no way a
> criticism of the value or viability of the OSEE project. In fact I
> personally hope that downstream the ORMF project will be in a position
> to reconsider this decision.
>
> I would personally like to thank Don, Ryan and the rest of the OSEE team
> for their initial invitation to join them and for all of the support
> they have provided over the past weeks.
>
> Joel
Re: ORMF will not be joining the OSEE project at this time [message #563847 is a reply to message #11932] Sat, 17 May 2008 17:00 Go to previous message
Joel Rosi-Schwartz is currently offline Joel Rosi-Schwartz
Messages: 624
Registered: July 2009
Location: London. England
Senior Member
Hi Anders,

Not at all sure. Once we get into a scoping exercise we will be in a
better position to understand what we can and cannot take on.

Joel

On 2008-05-16 16:46:42 +0100, "Anders W.Tell" <opensource@toolsmiths.se> said:

> Hi,
>
> Sorry to hear that scarce resources prevent collaboration. What are
> your ideas towards collaboration with the UML and Papyrus project. Are
> they also put on hold?
>
> thanks
> /anders
>
>
>
> Joel Rosi-Schwartz wrote:
>> The ORMF team has taken the decision that pursuing a close
>> collaboration with the OSEE team and achieving a tight integration of
>> ORMF into the OSEE framework is not feasible at this time. There are
>> several reasons for this decision the most important being that the
>> ORMF team simply lacks the resources to achieve that goal now. It is
>> also felt that in the near term it is best for the team to achieve a
>> deliverable based on existing code base for Useme that is being donated
>> by Etish Limited. In doing so the ORMF team will be able to quickly
>> deliver a useable system to the community which will stimulate
>> feedback. A scoping exercise based on this feedback will enable the
>> ORMF team will select the feature set of and formulate the project plan
>> for the 1.0 release of ORMF.
>>
>> I would like to make it clear that this decision is in no way a
>> criticism of the value or viability of the OSEE project. In fact I
>> personally hope that downstream the ORMF project will be in a position
>> to reconsider this decision.
>>
>> I would personally like to thank Don, Ryan and the rest of the OSEE
>> team for their initial invitation to join them and for all of the
>> support they have provided over the past weeks.
>>
>> Joel


--
Joel Rosi-Schwartz
Etish Limited [http://www.etish.org]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
^...^
/ o,o \ The proud parents of Useme
|) ::: (| The Open Requirements Management Tool
====w=w==== [https://useme.dev.java.net]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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