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Access controller and integrated access controller woes and some feedback to the owners of this feat [message #97802] Sat, 05 May 2007 23:49 Go to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: flounder.microsoft.com

OK this thing is driving me mad... I'm using Sun JRE 1.5 and I'm using 33m6
eclipse bits

When I go to profile an application I get an error that the "Agent
controller" isn't configured. So I go to preferences and look at the agent
controller and everything is grayed out... sigh...I would expect the
integrated agent controller to be the one that I'd be using, it shows
enabled but doesn't work.....so I go to the profiler preferences and I
specify "Direct connection" then I try to run and I get:

IWAT0284E The agent controller is not available on host localhost.
Make sure that:
* the agent controller is installed.
* the agent controller is configured to communicate with your machine.
* you have the correct host name and port number for the agent controller.
org.eclipse.hyades.internal.execution.local.control.AgentCon trollerUnavailableException

no matter what I have tried I can't get this thing to work..its very
frustrating. IMO the user experience of this feature or set of tools, is
Beyond poor.

What I would expect is, this

I install the tool, then from the plugin explorer I can select the plugin
(or plugins I want to profile) and I right click and say Profile. At this
point I get a wizard that allows me to set up ALL my profiling information.
I'd also think from the selection that I could also have my filter set up
automagically... it should be able to do it.... Then I say start profiling
and wha la... I'm in up and running.

I'd also like to make the comment as a seasoned developer that when a person
goes to use a tool like this, They need to get up and running quick in many
cases. I want answers to my problem, not frustration and no progress....

Also.... another user experience lameness is that there are prefernces
EVERYWHERE in the preferences for getting profiling set up. IMO Centralize
the preferences in one location. Make it easy to set up, not hard.

Also the documentation help is HORRIBLE and confusing, in many places it
talks above the readers head. IMO the author of the help needs to write from
the stand point of someone who has never used the feature, not from the
standpoint of one of the developers who wrote the darn tool. :p
Re: Access controller and integrated access controller woes and some feedback to the owners of this [message #97834 is a reply to message #97802] Sun, 06 May 2007 07:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Asaf Yaffe is currently offline Asaf Yaffe
Messages: 333
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
John,

To help, we need the following information:
1. O/S and architecture
2. Exact version of TPTP (version and build date).

Thanks,
Asaf

--
Asaf Yaffe
Eclipse TPTP Committer, JVMTI Profiler


>
> When I go to profile an application I get an error that the "Agent
> controller" isn't configured. So I go to preferences and look at the agent
> controller and everything is grayed out... sigh...I would expect the
> integrated agent controller to be the one that I'd be using, it shows
> enabled but doesn't work.....so I go to the profiler preferences and I
> specify "Direct connection" then I try to run and I get:
>
> IWAT0284E The agent controller is not available on host localhost.
> Make sure that:
> * the agent controller is installed.
> * the agent controller is configured to communicate with your machine.
> * you have the correct host name and port number for the agent controller.
> org.eclipse.hyades.internal.execution.local.control.AgentCon trollerUnavailableException
>
> no matter what I have tried I can't get this thing to work..its very
> frustrating. IMO the user experience of this feature or set of tools, is
> Beyond poor.
>
> What I would expect is, this
>
> I install the tool, then from the plugin explorer I can select the plugin
> (or plugins I want to profile) and I right click and say Profile. At this
> point I get a wizard that allows me to set up ALL my profiling information.
> I'd also think from the selection that I could also have my filter set up
> automagically... it should be able to do it.... Then I say start profiling
> and wha la... I'm in up and running.
>
> I'd also like to make the comment as a seasoned developer that when a person
> goes to use a tool like this, They need to get up and running quick in many
> cases. I want answers to my problem, not frustration and no progress....
>
> Also.... another user experience lameness is that there are prefernces
> EVERYWHERE in the preferences for getting profiling set up. IMO Centralize
> the preferences in one location. Make it easy to set up, not hard.
>
> Also the documentation help is HORRIBLE and confusing, in many places it
> talks above the readers head. IMO the author of the help needs to write from
> the stand point of someone who has never used the feature, not from the
> standpoint of one of the developers who wrote the darn tool. :p
>
>
>
>
Re: Access controller and integrated access controller woes and some feedback to the owners of this [message #97878 is a reply to message #97802] Sun, 06 May 2007 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: andrew.chapman.brighterworking.com

I had similar symptoms when I started to use TPTP under Vista. See
"Problem with agent controllers using TPTP under Vista" in this
newsgroup. The latest updates solved my problem.
Re: Access controller and integrated access controller woes and some feedback to the owners of this [message #97942 is a reply to message #97834] Sun, 06 May 2007 17:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: flounder.microsoft.com

Hi, So I tried this again.. I downloaded

tptp.runtime.allInOne.win32.win32.x86-TPTP-4.4.0-20070327010 0D.zip
and I'm using SUN jre 1.5.0_11
under windows XP SP2

I bring the all in one up in a new workspace (using -clean)

I go into preferences and I go to "Agent Controller" --> "Integrated Agent
Controller"
I see the "enable" check box is checked, and I also check "Allow Remote
connections" and "Always Running" then I go to the "profiling and
logging" --> "Hosts" preference and I select localhost:10002 and I select
"test" and I get the error message:

"A Local Direct Connection is currently active. Before starting the Remote
Agent Controller(RAC) you need to detach all the agents running using this
local direct connection"


So I try "Local Direct connection" and I select "test" button and I get
"success" so I go and run my profile config and I get


org.eclipse.core.runtime.CoreException
The selected Java profiler agent is not available via Local Direct
Connection. Please start the Agent Controller to use the selected profiler.

org.eclipse.core.runtime.CoreException: The selected Java profiler agent is
not available via Local Direct Connection. Please start the Agent
Controller to use the selected profiler.
at
org.eclipse.tptp.trace.ui.internal.launcher.core.LauncherUti lity.createCoreException(LauncherUtility.java:121)
at
org.eclipse.tptp.platform.jvmti.client.internal.launcher.TID elegateHelper.connectToAgentController(TIDelegateHelper.java :289)
at
org.eclipse.tptp.platform.jvmti.client.internal.launcher.TID elegateHelper.launch(TIDelegateHelper.java:250)
at
org.eclipse.tptp.platform.jvmti.client.internal.launcher.TIR untimeWorkbenchDelegate.launch(TIRuntimeWorkbenchDelegate.ja va:32)
at
org.eclipse.tptp.trace.ui.internal.launcher.core.LauncherUti lity.delegateInit(LauncherUtility.java:1157)
at
org.eclipse.tptp.trace.ui.provisional.launcher.PrimaryLaunch Delegate.run(PrimaryLaunchDelegate.java:190)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

Any ideas whats going on? I can't seem to get profiling going no matter what
I try.

--------------------

"Asaf Yaffe" <asaf.yaffe@intel.com> wrote in message
news:f1jvm9$t4i$1@build.eclipse.org...
> John,
>
> To help, we need the following information:
> 1. O/S and architecture
> 2. Exact version of TPTP (version and build date).
>
> Thanks,
> Asaf
>
> --
> Asaf Yaffe
> Eclipse TPTP Committer, JVMTI Profiler
>
>
>>
>> When I go to profile an application I get an error that the "Agent
>> controller" isn't configured. So I go to preferences and look at the
>> agent controller and everything is grayed out... sigh...I would expect
>> the integrated agent controller to be the one that I'd be using, it shows
>> enabled but doesn't work.....so I go to the profiler preferences and I
>> specify "Direct connection" then I try to run and I get:
>>
>> IWAT0284E The agent controller is not available on host localhost.
>> Make sure that:
>> * the agent controller is installed.
>> * the agent controller is configured to communicate with your machine.
>> * you have the correct host name and port number for the agent
>> controller.
>> org.eclipse.hyades.internal.execution.local.control.AgentCon trollerUnavailableException
>>
>> no matter what I have tried I can't get this thing to work..its very
>> frustrating. IMO the user experience of this feature or set of tools, is
>> Beyond poor.
>>
>> What I would expect is, this
>>
>> I install the tool, then from the plugin explorer I can select the plugin
>> (or plugins I want to profile) and I right click and say Profile. At this
>> point I get a wizard that allows me to set up ALL my profiling
>> information. I'd also think from the selection that I could also have my
>> filter set up automagically... it should be able to do it.... Then I say
>> start profiling and wha la... I'm in up and running.
>>
>> I'd also like to make the comment as a seasoned developer that when a
>> person goes to use a tool like this, They need to get up and running
>> quick in many cases. I want answers to my problem, not frustration and no
>> progress....
>>
>> Also.... another user experience lameness is that there are prefernces
>> EVERYWHERE in the preferences for getting profiling set up. IMO
>> Centralize the preferences in one location. Make it easy to set up, not
>> hard.
>>
>> Also the documentation help is HORRIBLE and confusing, in many places it
>> talks above the readers head. IMO the author of the help needs to write
>> from the stand point of someone who has never used the feature, not from
>> the standpoint of one of the developers who wrote the darn tool. :p
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Access controller and integrated access controller woes and some feedback to the owners of this [message #97972 is a reply to message #97942] Mon, 07 May 2007 06:45 Go to previous message
Asaf Yaffe is currently offline Asaf Yaffe
Messages: 333
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
John,

As far as I know, the Integrated Agent Controller does not work
correctly in the build you downloaded. Most of the problem were fixed in
the latest development build.

However, you can still use the "D" stable build with the standalone
Agent Controller. Simply download the Agent Controller from the "D"
build download site, unpack the ZIP file, run the SetConfig.bat script
and launch the Agent Controller by running RAServer.exe.

HTH,
Asaf


John Smith wrote:
> Hi, So I tried this again.. I downloaded
>
> tptp.runtime.allInOne.win32.win32.x86-TPTP-4.4.0-20070327010 0D.zip
> and I'm using SUN jre 1.5.0_11
> under windows XP SP2
>
> I bring the all in one up in a new workspace (using -clean)
>
> I go into preferences and I go to "Agent Controller" --> "Integrated Agent
> Controller"
> I see the "enable" check box is checked, and I also check "Allow Remote
> connections" and "Always Running" then I go to the "profiling and
> logging" --> "Hosts" preference and I select localhost:10002 and I select
> "test" and I get the error message:
>
> "A Local Direct Connection is currently active. Before starting the Remote
> Agent Controller(RAC) you need to detach all the agents running using this
> local direct connection"
>
>
> So I try "Local Direct connection" and I select "test" button and I get
> "success" so I go and run my profile config and I get
>
>
> org.eclipse.core.runtime.CoreException
> The selected Java profiler agent is not available via Local Direct
> Connection. Please start the Agent Controller to use the selected profiler.
>
> org.eclipse.core.runtime.CoreException: The selected Java profiler agent is
> not available via Local Direct Connection. Please start the Agent
> Controller to use the selected profiler.
> at
> org.eclipse.tptp.trace.ui.internal.launcher.core.LauncherUti lity.createCoreException(LauncherUtility.java:121)
> at
> org.eclipse.tptp.platform.jvmti.client.internal.launcher.TID elegateHelper.connectToAgentController(TIDelegateHelper.java :289)
> at
> org.eclipse.tptp.platform.jvmti.client.internal.launcher.TID elegateHelper.launch(TIDelegateHelper.java:250)
> at
> org.eclipse.tptp.platform.jvmti.client.internal.launcher.TIR untimeWorkbenchDelegate.launch(TIRuntimeWorkbenchDelegate.ja va:32)
> at
> org.eclipse.tptp.trace.ui.internal.launcher.core.LauncherUti lity.delegateInit(LauncherUtility.java:1157)
> at
> org.eclipse.tptp.trace.ui.provisional.launcher.PrimaryLaunch Delegate.run(PrimaryLaunchDelegate.java:190)
> at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
>
> Any ideas whats going on? I can't seem to get profiling going no matter what
> I try.
>
> --------------------
>
> "Asaf Yaffe" <asaf.yaffe@intel.com> wrote in message
> news:f1jvm9$t4i$1@build.eclipse.org...
>> John,
>>
>> To help, we need the following information:
>> 1. O/S and architecture
>> 2. Exact version of TPTP (version and build date).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Asaf
>>
>> --
>> Asaf Yaffe
>> Eclipse TPTP Committer, JVMTI Profiler
>>
>>
>>> When I go to profile an application I get an error that the "Agent
>>> controller" isn't configured. So I go to preferences and look at the
>>> agent controller and everything is grayed out... sigh...I would expect
>>> the integrated agent controller to be the one that I'd be using, it shows
>>> enabled but doesn't work.....so I go to the profiler preferences and I
>>> specify "Direct connection" then I try to run and I get:
>>>
>>> IWAT0284E The agent controller is not available on host localhost.
>>> Make sure that:
>>> * the agent controller is installed.
>>> * the agent controller is configured to communicate with your machine.
>>> * you have the correct host name and port number for the agent
>>> controller.
>>> org.eclipse.hyades.internal.execution.local.control.AgentCon trollerUnavailableException
>>>
>>> no matter what I have tried I can't get this thing to work..its very
>>> frustrating. IMO the user experience of this feature or set of tools, is
>>> Beyond poor.
>>>
>>> What I would expect is, this
>>>
>>> I install the tool, then from the plugin explorer I can select the plugin
>>> (or plugins I want to profile) and I right click and say Profile. At this
>>> point I get a wizard that allows me to set up ALL my profiling
>>> information. I'd also think from the selection that I could also have my
>>> filter set up automagically... it should be able to do it.... Then I say
>>> start profiling and wha la... I'm in up and running.
>>>
>>> I'd also like to make the comment as a seasoned developer that when a
>>> person goes to use a tool like this, They need to get up and running
>>> quick in many cases. I want answers to my problem, not frustration and no
>>> progress....
>>>
>>> Also.... another user experience lameness is that there are prefernces
>>> EVERYWHERE in the preferences for getting profiling set up. IMO
>>> Centralize the preferences in one location. Make it easy to set up, not
>>> hard.
>>>
>>> Also the documentation help is HORRIBLE and confusing, in many places it
>>> talks above the readers head. IMO the author of the help needs to write
>>> from the stand point of someone who has never used the feature, not from
>>> the standpoint of one of the developers who wrote the darn tool. :p
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
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