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Re: Ganymede: Platform Plugin Developer Guide? [message #8261] Fri, 09 May 2008 14:14 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: eclipse-news.rizzoweb.com

John J Barton wrote:
> Eric Rizzo wrote:
>> John J Barton wrote:
>>> I can't find the Platform Plugin Developer Guide in Ganymede. It has
>>> the PDE Guide, but not the other one. Do I need to do something to
>>> make it visible?
>>
>> As with your earlier issue in getting the Eclipse SDK source, I think
>> the problem is that you installed a build that does not include the
>> full PDE suite (which would include both the source plugins and the
>> Platform Plugin Developer Guide). I am running the 3.4M6 build of the
>> "Eclipse for RCP/Plug-in Developers" package from
>> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/ and it has both source and the guide.
>> I suggest you install that package, create a new workspace using it,
>> and import your preferences and projects.
>
> Thanks, but I need WTP for my work, which isn't in the other package. I
> just wonder if the omission of the Platform Guide is a bug in ganymede
> J2EE, given that they have PDE?

I think you're just misinterpreting what is included in the JEE package.
It does include the org.eclipse.pde feature, but that is not the full
SDK (the one that includes everything you'd want in order to do plugin
and/or RCP development). I think the feature you really need for that is
org.eclipse.sdk.
I'm not sure why the JEE package even includes the PDE feature; I'd
suggest that question be asked on the eclipse.technology.packaging
newsgroup (which I've copied to this response).

The other thing I think you are missing is that the packages are just a
starting point - a convenient collection of features for specific usage
profiles. You can always add more features to your installation using
the Update Manager (Eclipse < 3.4M6) or the p2 UI (Eclipse 3.4M6 and up).
Here's the wiki page bout how to use the p2 UI:
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_p2_Update_UI_Users_Guide

I think that by default p2 will find the SDK/PDE features: look for
"Eclipse Project SDK" and "Eclipse Platform Plug-in Developer Resources"
and "Eclipse PDE Plug-in Developer Resources" in the "Available
Features" list.

Hope this helps,
Eric
Re: Ganymede: Platform Plugin Developer Guide? [message #8293 is a reply to message #8261] Fri, 09 May 2008 14:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: eclipse-news.rizzoweb.com

Eric Rizzo wrote:
> John J Barton wrote:
>> Eric Rizzo wrote:
>>> John J Barton wrote:
>>>> I can't find the Platform Plugin Developer Guide in Ganymede. It has
>>>> the PDE Guide, but not the other one. Do I need to do something to
>>>> make it visible?
>>>
>>> As with your earlier issue in getting the Eclipse SDK source, I think
>>> the problem is that you installed a build that does not include the
>>> full PDE suite (which would include both the source plugins and the
>>> Platform Plugin Developer Guide). I am running the 3.4M6 build of the
>>> "Eclipse for RCP/Plug-in Developers" package from
>>> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/ and it has both source and the guide.
>>> I suggest you install that package, create a new workspace using it,
>>> and import your preferences and projects.
>>
>> Thanks, but I need WTP for my work, which isn't in the other package.
>> I just wonder if the omission of the Platform Guide is a bug in
>> ganymede J2EE, given that they have PDE?
>
> I think you're just misinterpreting what is included in the JEE package.
> It does include the org.eclipse.pde feature, but that is not the full
> SDK (the one that includes everything you'd want in order to do plugin
> and/or RCP development). I think the feature you really need for that is
> org.eclipse.sdk.
> I'm not sure why the JEE package even includes the PDE feature; I'd
> suggest that question be asked on the eclipse.technology.packaging
> newsgroup (which I've copied to this response).
>
> The other thing I think you are missing is that the packages are just a
> starting point - a convenient collection of features for specific usage
> profiles. You can always add more features to your installation using
> the Update Manager (Eclipse < 3.4M6) or the p2 UI (Eclipse 3.4M6 and up).
> Here's the wiki page bout how to use the p2 UI:
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_p2_Update_UI_Users_Guide
>
> I think that by default p2 will find the SDK/PDE features: look for
> "Eclipse Project SDK" and "Eclipse Platform Plug-in Developer Resources"
> and "Eclipse PDE Plug-in Developer Resources" in the "Available
> Features" list.

Looks like I was wrong - I installed the Java Development package but p2
does not show any of the PDE features as available. I'm copying the PDE
newsgroup in the hopes that they can point to a URL to drop into the p2
site manager that will allow easy installation of the PDE features for
Ganymede builds.

Eric
Re: Ganymede: Platform Plugin Developer Guide? [message #8325 is a reply to message #8293] Fri, 09 May 2008 18:09 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: eclipse-news.rizzoweb.com

Eric Rizzo wrote:
> Eric Rizzo wrote:
>> John J Barton wrote:
>>> Eric Rizzo wrote:
>>>> John J Barton wrote:
>>>>> I can't find the Platform Plugin Developer Guide in Ganymede. It
>>>>> has the PDE Guide, but not the other one. Do I need to do
>>>>> something to make it visible?
>>>>
>>>> As with your earlier issue in getting the Eclipse SDK source, I
>>>> think the problem is that you installed a build that does not
>>>> include the full PDE suite (which would include both the source
>>>> plugins and the Platform Plugin Developer Guide). I am running the
>>>> 3.4M6 build of the "Eclipse for RCP/Plug-in Developers" package from
>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/ and it has both source and the guide.
>>>> I suggest you install that package, create a new workspace using it,
>>>> and import your preferences and projects.
>>>
>>> Thanks, but I need WTP for my work, which isn't in the other package.
>>> I just wonder if the omission of the Platform Guide is a bug in
>>> ganymede J2EE, given that they have PDE?
>>
>> I think you're just misinterpreting what is included in the JEE
>> package. It does include the org.eclipse.pde feature, but that is not
>> the full SDK (the one that includes everything you'd want in order to
>> do plugin and/or RCP development). I think the feature you really need
>> for that is org.eclipse.sdk.
>> I'm not sure why the JEE package even includes the PDE feature; I'd
>> suggest that question be asked on the eclipse.technology.packaging
>> newsgroup (which I've copied to this response).
>>
>> The other thing I think you are missing is that the packages are just
>> a starting point - a convenient collection of features for specific
>> usage profiles. You can always add more features to your installation
>> using the Update Manager (Eclipse < 3.4M6) or the p2 UI (Eclipse 3.4M6
>> and up).
>> Here's the wiki page bout how to use the p2 UI:
>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_p2_Update_UI_Users_Guide
>>
>> I think that by default p2 will find the SDK/PDE features: look for
>> "Eclipse Project SDK" and "Eclipse Platform Plug-in Developer
>> Resources" and "Eclipse PDE Plug-in Developer Resources" in the
>> "Available Features" list.
>
> Looks like I was wrong - I installed the Java Development package but p2
> does not show any of the PDE features as available. I'm copying the PDE
> newsgroup in the hopes that they can point to a URL to drop into the p2
> site manager that will allow easy installation of the PDE features for
> Ganymede builds.
>
> Eric
Re: Ganymede: Platform Plugin Developer Guide? [message #576811 is a reply to message #8261] Fri, 09 May 2008 14:52 Go to previous message
Eric Rizzo is currently offline Eric RizzoFriend
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Eric Rizzo wrote:
> John J Barton wrote:
>> Eric Rizzo wrote:
>>> John J Barton wrote:
>>>> I can't find the Platform Plugin Developer Guide in Ganymede. It has
>>>> the PDE Guide, but not the other one. Do I need to do something to
>>>> make it visible?
>>>
>>> As with your earlier issue in getting the Eclipse SDK source, I think
>>> the problem is that you installed a build that does not include the
>>> full PDE suite (which would include both the source plugins and the
>>> Platform Plugin Developer Guide). I am running the 3.4M6 build of the
>>> "Eclipse for RCP/Plug-in Developers" package from
>>> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/ and it has both source and the guide.
>>> I suggest you install that package, create a new workspace using it,
>>> and import your preferences and projects.
>>
>> Thanks, but I need WTP for my work, which isn't in the other package.
>> I just wonder if the omission of the Platform Guide is a bug in
>> ganymede J2EE, given that they have PDE?
>
> I think you're just misinterpreting what is included in the JEE package.
> It does include the org.eclipse.pde feature, but that is not the full
> SDK (the one that includes everything you'd want in order to do plugin
> and/or RCP development). I think the feature you really need for that is
> org.eclipse.sdk.
> I'm not sure why the JEE package even includes the PDE feature; I'd
> suggest that question be asked on the eclipse.technology.packaging
> newsgroup (which I've copied to this response).
>
> The other thing I think you are missing is that the packages are just a
> starting point - a convenient collection of features for specific usage
> profiles. You can always add more features to your installation using
> the Update Manager (Eclipse < 3.4M6) or the p2 UI (Eclipse 3.4M6 and up).
> Here's the wiki page bout how to use the p2 UI:
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_p2_Update_UI_Users_Guide
>
> I think that by default p2 will find the SDK/PDE features: look for
> "Eclipse Project SDK" and "Eclipse Platform Plug-in Developer Resources"
> and "Eclipse PDE Plug-in Developer Resources" in the "Available
> Features" list.

Looks like I was wrong - I installed the Java Development package but p2
does not show any of the PDE features as available. I'm copying the PDE
newsgroup in the hopes that they can point to a URL to drop into the p2
site manager that will allow easy installation of the PDE features for
Ganymede builds.

Eric
Re: Ganymede: Platform Plugin Developer Guide? [message #576864 is a reply to message #8293] Fri, 09 May 2008 18:09 Go to previous message
Eric Rizzo is currently offline Eric RizzoFriend
Messages: 2411
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Eric Rizzo wrote:
> Eric Rizzo wrote:
>> John J Barton wrote:
>>> Eric Rizzo wrote:
>>>> John J Barton wrote:
>>>>> I can't find the Platform Plugin Developer Guide in Ganymede. It
>>>>> has the PDE Guide, but not the other one. Do I need to do
>>>>> something to make it visible?
>>>>
>>>> As with your earlier issue in getting the Eclipse SDK source, I
>>>> think the problem is that you installed a build that does not
>>>> include the full PDE suite (which would include both the source
>>>> plugins and the Platform Plugin Developer Guide). I am running the
>>>> 3.4M6 build of the "Eclipse for RCP/Plug-in Developers" package from
>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/ and it has both source and the guide.
>>>> I suggest you install that package, create a new workspace using it,
>>>> and import your preferences and projects.
>>>
>>> Thanks, but I need WTP for my work, which isn't in the other package.
>>> I just wonder if the omission of the Platform Guide is a bug in
>>> ganymede J2EE, given that they have PDE?
>>
>> I think you're just misinterpreting what is included in the JEE
>> package. It does include the org.eclipse.pde feature, but that is not
>> the full SDK (the one that includes everything you'd want in order to
>> do plugin and/or RCP development). I think the feature you really need
>> for that is org.eclipse.sdk.
>> I'm not sure why the JEE package even includes the PDE feature; I'd
>> suggest that question be asked on the eclipse.technology.packaging
>> newsgroup (which I've copied to this response).
>>
>> The other thing I think you are missing is that the packages are just
>> a starting point - a convenient collection of features for specific
>> usage profiles. You can always add more features to your installation
>> using the Update Manager (Eclipse < 3.4M6) or the p2 UI (Eclipse 3.4M6
>> and up).
>> Here's the wiki page bout how to use the p2 UI:
>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_p2_Update_UI_Users_Guide
>>
>> I think that by default p2 will find the SDK/PDE features: look for
>> "Eclipse Project SDK" and "Eclipse Platform Plug-in Developer
>> Resources" and "Eclipse PDE Plug-in Developer Resources" in the
>> "Available Features" list.
>
> Looks like I was wrong - I installed the Java Development package but p2
> does not show any of the PDE features as available. I'm copying the PDE
> newsgroup in the hopes that they can point to a URL to drop into the p2
> site manager that will allow easy installation of the PDE features for
> Ganymede builds.
>
> Eric
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