| Re: Eclipse on Linux proposal [message #73086] |
Fri, 02 June 2006 20:45 |
 Randy D. Smith
Messages: 394
Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
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Darren Bell wrote:
> I've never managed to get TPTP 4.2 64-bit agent controller to work
> correctly. It's still not released yet, so I shouldn't complain.
Oh boy... a live one on Linux 64-bit! What have you run into? What are
you trying to do? I ask because I'm on the other side, doing TPTP native
work on the AC, focusing on Intel architectures.
Have you filed bugzillas on what you've found?
What are you expecting in terms of 4.2 functionality? The reason I ask
is that the "new technology AC" should be there (as it should have been
already... but we can explore that topic based on your responses to the
above), but it is *not* scheduled to have "backward compatibility" (what
I affectionately call AC/BC) on Linux-EM64T for 4.2.
I'm cross-posting this to eclipse.tptp (and quoting your whole article
below) as this group is more relevant to following this particular part
of your response.
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RDS
> I've been using Eclipse in Linux since Ubuntu 5.04 (hoary) came out. I use Ubuntu amd64 at work and at home and have a few problems.
>
> The fonts are an issue, especially when they are changed within Eclipse. The xml editor test doesn't line up with the horizontal lines (can I call it music rule? lol).
>
> I've never managed to get TPTP 4.2 64-bit agent controller to work correctly. It's still not released yet, so I shouldn't complain.
>
> I think many of the problems with eclipse are with SWT. There are many little niggles that make it not up to the windows version.
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> But all in all, developing on Linux is MUCH better than on Windows. Our entire team uses Ubuntu Dapper now (since flight 6).
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> We are using Eclipse to develop an in house Manufacturing Execution System which is n-tier using RCP/JBOSS/EJB3/Hibernate/LUCENE etc etc. All this under Linux and tested on Windows, Linux and Mac OSX.
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> If you need any input, i'll be happy to help.
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> Oh all we need now is a Sun backed GPL'd Java, then we'd be set !!
>
> Darren Bell.
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> Ed Willink wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Good idea
>>
>> [Your news group link is to eclispe]
>>
>> You miss some of the main problems. Eclipse just doesn't work at all well
>> on Linux.
>>
>> I have used Eclipse extensively on Windows and needed to run some code under
>> Linux. I was very unimpressed.
>>
>> Major problem 1: Linux is 10 pt based rather than 8 pt based so nothing fits
>> on a Laptop screen. I don't expect to reconfigure Linux to use Eclipse so
>> I'm stuffed. 50% of Eclipse dialog text is unadjustable. Bugzilla 135738.
>>
>> Major problem 2: mouse operations just don't work much of the time. Eclipse
>> or perhaps my fingers give strange behaviour less than 1% of the time on Windows.
>> On Linux I sometimes need three attempts to get a selection to work. Hard to
>> reproduce precisely, possibly I just don't understand Linux.
>>
>> Major problem 3: VE (recent Milestones) is almost unuseable on Linux. Really
>> slow, and often temperamental. I move serious VE work back to Windows. Not
>> sure whether VE is ready for this level of complaint yet; there's plenty to
>> sort out on Windows too.
>>
>> I would not use Eclipse on Linux for choice.
>>
>> These are all basic bug fixes that just require a little bit of Linux
>> usage by the development teams.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Ed Willink
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RDS
Randy D. Smith randy (dot) d (dot) smith (at) intel (dot) com
Eclipse TPTP Committer, Platform Proj (data collection/agent controller)
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