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Re: keeping an eye on the competition :-) [message #67023] Mon, 21 March 2005 15:53 Go to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: mark_melvin.amis.com

Speaking of the competition...has everyone heard of the new Project
Coyote for Netbeans?

https://coyote.dev.java.net/

I cross-posted to eclipse.technology as this is very applicable to the
budding Dynamic Languages project..er...sub-project...umm...whatever it
turns out to be.

Mark.

Chris Daly wrote:
> One way to shape our thinking about what LDT could and should try to do
> would be to look at what other IDEs are doing today in the
> multi-language space and where they are going.
>
> What follows are some notes on projects I've been tracking that have to
> do with IDEs that come with integrated language designers and language
> tooling generators:
>
> - Sergey Dmitriev, of the IntelliJ IDE company JetBrains, recently wrote
> a manifesto called "Language Oriented Programming" where he talks about
> a new IDE he is developing that includes a "Structure Language" and an
> "Editor Language". These are languages designed to express languages
> and their IDE tooling.
> http://www.onboard.jetbrains.com/is1/articles/04/10/lop/
> http://www.jetbrains.com/mps/
>
> - The company Xactium has a product called XMF-Mosaic which is sort of
> an IDE for designing DSLs and building the IDE tooling for the DSLs you
> design. I really recommend their book "Applied Metamodeling" which you
> can download for free from their site (go to Downloads area).
> http://albini.xactium.com/content/
>
> - Microsoft has a project called "DSL tools" for Visual Studio. Look
> for their developer blogs that talk about it and also look at the book
> Software Factories (Greenfield et al.), especially chapter 8.
> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/teamsystem/community/blogs/
> http://blogs.msdn.com/stevecook
> http://blogs.msdn.com/stuart_kent
>
>
> These are just three examples and they surely reflect my bias towards
> DSLs. I'd be interested in hearing more from you all (I'm sure Tim and
> the others from Borland could add something to this) about non-Eclipse
> multi-language efforts that would be good models to study to help shape
> the LDT.
>
>
> Chris
Re: keeping an eye on the competition :-) [message #67034 is a reply to message #67023] Mon, 21 March 2005 18:14 Go to previous message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: SamMesh.gmail.com

Mark Melvin wrote:
> Speaking of the competition...has everyone heard of the new Project
> Coyote for Netbeans?
>
> https://coyote.dev.java.net/

Do they have *IDE independent* layer or try to bind themselves to
NetBeans from the roots (which is stupid, IMHO:)?

--
Sam Mesh
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