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Castor vs. XSD? [message #66019] Sat, 11 February 2006 15:51 Go to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: vgv8.yahoo.com.br

Hi, all,
Can anybody outline me functionalities of Apache Castor vs. Eclipse XSD
framework? or any other Eclipse frameworks covering all Apache Castor
functionalities

Or reformulating, I have the task to reimplement existing application
(workflow designer) in Swing using GEF with EMF. The problem is that I do
not see how I can match already created with Castor files in XML (that is,
workflow definitions in XML, associated with wf nodes data in XML, palettes
definitions, templates, etc. uploaded/downloaded to/from server-side BPM
engine) using EMF/GEF

Guennadi Vanine
errata [message #66041 is a reply to message #66019] Sat, 11 February 2006 22:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: vgv8.yahoo.com.br

Sorry, Castor is from
http://www.castor.org
not from Apache

Guennadi Vanine
"Guennadi Vanine" <vgv8@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message
news:dsl15t$cm$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> Hi, all,
> Can anybody outline me functionalities of Apache Castor vs. Eclipse XSD
> framework? or any other Eclipse frameworks covering all Apache Castor
> functionalities
>
> Or reformulating, I have the task to reimplement existing application
> (workflow designer) in Swing using GEF with EMF. The problem is that I do
> not see how I can match already created with Castor files in XML (that is,
> workflow definitions in XML, associated with wf nodes data in XML,
> palettes definitions, templates, etc. uploaded/downloaded to/from
> server-side BPM engine) using EMF/GEF
>
> Guennadi Vanine
>
Re: Castor vs. XSD? [message #66062 is a reply to message #66019] Mon, 13 February 2006 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Guennadi,

I don't think they are really comparable. XSD's purpose is to model XML
Schema, i.e., to represent XML Schema instances, whereas Castor is yet
another XML binding approach, which is more comparable to EMF's XML
Schema -> Ecore -> Java binding. If you have a schema representing the
XML syntax, you might want to following this tutorial and compare the
results to Castor's result:

http://eclipse.org/emf/docs.php?doc=tutorials/xlibmod/xlibmo d.html


Guennadi Vanine wrote:

>Hi, all,
>Can anybody outline me functionalities of Apache Castor vs. Eclipse XSD
>framework? or any other Eclipse frameworks covering all Apache Castor
>functionalities
>
>Or reformulating, I have the task to reimplement existing application
>(workflow designer) in Swing using GEF with EMF. The problem is that I do
>not see how I can match already created with Castor files in XML (that is,
>workflow definitions in XML, associated with wf nodes data in XML, palettes
>definitions, templates, etc. uploaded/downloaded to/from server-side BPM
>engine) using EMF/GEF
>
>Guennadi Vanine
>
>
>
>


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Guennadi,<br>
<br>
I don't think they are really comparable.&nbsp; XSD's purpose is to model
XML Schema, i.e., to represent XML Schema instances, whereas Castor is
yet another XML binding approach, which is more comparable to EMF's&nbsp;
XML Schema -&gt; Ecore -&gt; Java binding.&nbsp; If you have a schema
representing the XML syntax, you might want to following this tutorial
and compare the results to Castor's result:<br>
<blockquote><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href=" http://eclipse.org/emf/docs.php?doc=tutorials/xlibmod/xlibmo d.html"> http://eclipse.org/emf/docs.php?doc=tutorials/xlibmod/xlibmo d.html</a><br>
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Guennadi Vanine wrote:
<blockquote cite="middsl15t$cm$1@utils.eclipse.org" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Hi, all,
Can anybody outline me functionalities of Apache Castor vs. Eclipse XSD
framework? or any other Eclipse frameworks covering all Apache Castor
functionalities

Or reformulating, I have the task to reimplement existing application
(workflow designer) in Swing using GEF with EMF. The problem is that I do
not see how I can match already created with Castor files in XML (that is,
workflow definitions in XML, associated with wf nodes data in XML, palettes
definitions, templates, etc. uploaded/downloaded to/from server-side BPM
engine) using EMF/GEF

Guennadi Vanine


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Re: Castor vs. XSD? [message #66082 is a reply to message #66062] Mon, 13 February 2006 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: vgv8.yahoo.com.br

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Thanks, Ed,
really my question was what Eclipse frameworks would match/cover Castor.

This all very great, for developing other frameworks, and it is =
extremely developer-friendly (and even more),
but I need to provide the user of a final product (workflow designer) =
the ability to import/export custom XML formats (of created with =
existing workflow designer, wf definitions, associated data, palettes =
and elements of palettes). That is what already exist in app made in =
Swing with Castor that I should "extend" in GEG with EMF and I even do =
not see how I would simply match it in EMF/GEF.

Guennadi Vanine=20
"Ed Merks" <merks@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message =
news:dspsbi$7mm$1@utils.eclipse.org...
Guennadi,

I don't think they are really comparable. XSD's purpose is to model =
XML Schema, i.e., to represent XML Schema instances, whereas Castor is =
yet another XML binding approach, which is more comparable to EMF's XML =
Schema -> Ecore -> Java binding. If you have a schema representing the =
XML syntax, you might want to following this tutorial and compare the =
results to Castor's result:

http://eclipse.org/emf/docs.php?doc=3Dtutorials/xlibmod/xlib mod.html


Guennadi Vanine wrote:=20
Hi, all,
Can anybody outline me functionalities of Apache Castor vs. Eclipse XSD=20
framework? or any other Eclipse frameworks covering all Apache Castor=20
functionalities

Or reformulating, I have the task to reimplement existing application=20
(workflow designer) in Swing using GEF with EMF. The problem is that I =
do=20
not see how I can match already created with Castor files in XML (that =
is,=20
workflow definitions in XML, associated with wf nodes data in XML, =
palettes=20
definitions, templates, etc. uploaded/downloaded to/from server-side BPM =

engine) using EMF/GEF

Guennadi Vanine=20


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks, Ed,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>really my question was what Eclipse =
frameworks=20
would match/cover Castor.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This all very great, for developing =
other=20
frameworks,&nbsp;and it is &nbsp;extremely developer-friendly (and even=20
more),</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but I need to provide the user of a =
final product=20
(workflow designer) the&nbsp;ability &nbsp;to&nbsp;import/export =
custom&nbsp;XML=20
formats (of created with existing workflow designer, wf definitions, =
associated=20
data, &nbsp;palettes and elements of palettes). That is&nbsp;what =
already exist=20
in app made&nbsp;in Swing with Castor that I should "extend" in GEG with =
EMF and=20
I even do not see how I would simply match it in EMF/GEF.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Guennadi Vanine</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>"Ed Merks" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:merks@ca.ibm.com">merks@ca.ibm.com</A>&gt;=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:dspsbi$7mm$1@utils.eclipse.org">news:dspsbi$7mm$1@utils.ecli=
pse.org</A>...</DIV>Guennadi,<BR><BR>I=20
don't think they are really comparable.&nbsp; XSD's purpose is to =
model XML=20
Schema, i.e., to represent XML Schema instances, whereas Castor is yet =
another=20
XML binding approach, which is more comparable to EMF's&nbsp; XML =
Schema -&gt;=20
Ecore -&gt; Java binding.&nbsp; If you have a schema representing the =
XML=20
syntax, you might want to following this tutorial and compare the =
results to=20
Castor's result:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-freetext=20
=
href=3D" http://eclipse.org/emf/docs.php?doc=3Dtutorials/xlibmod/xlib mod.h=
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</A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Guennadi=20
Vanine wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=3Dmiddsl15t$cm$1@utils.eclipse.org type=3D"cite"><PRE =
wrap=3D"">Hi, all,
Can anybody outline me functionalities of Apache Castor vs. Eclipse XSD=20
framework? or any other Eclipse frameworks covering all Apache Castor=20
functionalities

Or reformulating, I have the task to reimplement existing application=20
(workflow designer) in Swing using GEF with EMF. The problem is that I =
do=20
not see how I can match already created with Castor files in XML (that =
is,=20
workflow definitions in XML, associated with wf nodes data in XML, =
palettes=20
definitions, templates, etc. uploaded/downloaded to/from server-side BPM =

engine) using EMF/GEF

Guennadi Vanine=20


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Re: Castor vs. XSD? [message #66103 is a reply to message #66082] Mon, 13 February 2006 20:55 Go to previous message
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Originally posted by: merks.ca.ibm.com

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Guennadi,

Sorry, I have no expertise in Castor on which to draw comparisons, so I
don't know which particular features you are hoping to see. Certainly
everything you see demonstrated in the tutorial can be done
programmatically at runtime, i.e., given a schema, you'll be able to
read and write XML instances that conform it, even without generating
any code but using dynamic Ecore instead...


Guennadi Vanine wrote:
> Thanks, Ed,
> really my question was what Eclipse frameworks would match/cover Castor.
>
> This all very great, for developing other frameworks, and it is
> extremely developer-friendly (and even more),
> but I need to provide the user of a final product (workflow designer)
> the ability to import/export custom XML formats (of created with
> existing workflow designer, wf definitions, associated data, palettes
> and elements of palettes). That is what already exist in app made in
> Swing with Castor that I should "extend" in GEG with EMF and I even do
> not see how I would simply match it in EMF/GEF.
>
> Guennadi Vanine
>
> "Ed Merks" <merks@ca.ibm.com <mailto:merks@ca.ibm.com>> wrote in
> message news:dspsbi$7mm$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> Guennadi,
>
> I don't think they are really comparable. XSD's purpose is to
> model XML Schema, i.e., to represent XML Schema instances, whereas
> Castor is yet another XML binding approach, which is more
> comparable to EMF's XML Schema -> Ecore -> Java binding. If you
> have a schema representing the XML syntax, you might want to
> following this tutorial and compare the results to Castor's result:
>
> http://eclipse.org/emf/docs.php?doc=tutorials/xlibmod/xlibmo d.html
>
>
> Guennadi Vanine wrote:
>> Hi, all,
>> Can anybody outline me functionalities of Apache Castor vs. Eclipse XSD
>> framework? or any other Eclipse frameworks covering all Apache Castor
>> functionalities
>>
>> Or reformulating, I have the task to reimplement existing application
>> (workflow designer) in Swing using GEF with EMF. The problem is that I do
>> not see how I can match already created with Castor files in XML (that is,
>> workflow definitions in XML, associated with wf nodes data in XML, palettes
>> definitions, templates, etc. uploaded/downloaded to/from server-side BPM
>> engine) using EMF/GEF
>>
>> Guennadi Vanine
>>
>>
>>
>


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Guennadi,<br>
<br>
Sorry, I have no expertise in Castor on which to draw comparisons, so I
don't know which particular features you are hoping to see.&nbsp; Certainly
everything you see demonstrated in the tutorial can be done
programmatically at runtime, i.e., given a schema, you'll be able to
read and write XML instances that conform it, even without generating
any code but using dynamic Ecore instead...<br>
<br>
<br>
Guennadi Vanine wrote:
<blockquote cite="middsqr5i$47a$1@utils.eclipse.org" type="cite">
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Thanks, Ed,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">really my question was what Eclipse
frameworks would match/cover Castor.</font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">This all very great, for developing
other frameworks,&nbsp;and it is &nbsp;extremely developer-friendly (and even
more),</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">but I need to provide the user of a
final product (workflow designer) the&nbsp;ability &nbsp;to&nbsp;import/export
custom&nbsp;XML formats (of created with existing workflow designer, wf
definitions, associated data, &nbsp;palettes and elements of palettes). That
is&nbsp;what already exist in app made&nbsp;in Swing with Castor that I should
"extend" in GEG with EMF and I even do not see how I would simply match
it in EMF/GEF.</font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Guennadi Vanine</font>&nbsp;</div>
<blockquote
style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;">
<div>"Ed Merks" &lt;<a href="mailto:merks@ca.ibm.com">merks@ca.ibm.com</a>&gt;
wrote in message <a href="news:dspsbi$7mm$1@utils.eclipse.org">news:dspsbi$7mm$1@utils.eclipse.org</a>...</div>
Guennadi,<br>
<br>
I don't think they are really comparable.&nbsp; XSD's purpose is to model
XML Schema, i.e., to represent XML Schema instances, whereas Castor is
yet another XML binding approach, which is more comparable to EMF's&nbsp;
XML Schema -&gt; Ecore -&gt; Java binding.&nbsp; If you have a schema
representing the XML syntax, you might want to following this tutorial
and compare the results to Castor's result:<br>
<blockquote><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href=" http://eclipse.org/emf/docs.php?doc=tutorials/xlibmod/xlibmo d.html"> http://eclipse.org/emf/docs.php?doc=tutorials/xlibmod/xlibmo d.html</a><br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Guennadi Vanine wrote:
<blockquote cite="middsl15t$cm$1@utils.eclipse.org" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Hi, all,
Can anybody outline me functionalities of Apache Castor vs. Eclipse XSD
framework? or any other Eclipse frameworks covering all Apache Castor
functionalities

Or reformulating, I have the task to reimplement existing application
(workflow designer) in Swing using GEF with EMF. The problem is that I do
not see how I can match already created with Castor files in XML (that is,
workflow definitions in XML, associated with wf nodes data in XML, palettes
definitions, templates, etc. uploaded/downloaded to/from server-side BPM
engine) using EMF/GEF

Guennadi Vanine


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errata [message #597566 is a reply to message #66019] Sat, 11 February 2006 22:27 Go to previous message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: vgv8.yahoo.com.br

Sorry, Castor is from
http://www.castor.org
not from Apache

Guennadi Vanine
"Guennadi Vanine" <vgv8@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message
news:dsl15t$cm$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> Hi, all,
> Can anybody outline me functionalities of Apache Castor vs. Eclipse XSD
> framework? or any other Eclipse frameworks covering all Apache Castor
> functionalities
>
> Or reformulating, I have the task to reimplement existing application
> (workflow designer) in Swing using GEF with EMF. The problem is that I do
> not see how I can match already created with Castor files in XML (that is,
> workflow definitions in XML, associated with wf nodes data in XML,
> palettes definitions, templates, etc. uploaded/downloaded to/from
> server-side BPM engine) using EMF/GEF
>
> Guennadi Vanine
>
Re: Castor vs. XSD? [message #597578 is a reply to message #66019] Mon, 13 February 2006 12:00 Go to previous message
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Guennadi,

I don't think they are really comparable. XSD's purpose is to model XML
Schema, i.e., to represent XML Schema instances, whereas Castor is yet
another XML binding approach, which is more comparable to EMF's XML
Schema -> Ecore -> Java binding. If you have a schema representing the
XML syntax, you might want to following this tutorial and compare the
results to Castor's result:

http://eclipse.org/emf/docs.php?doc=tutorials/xlibmod/xlibmo d.html


Guennadi Vanine wrote:

>Hi, all,
>Can anybody outline me functionalities of Apache Castor vs. Eclipse XSD
>framework? or any other Eclipse frameworks covering all Apache Castor
>functionalities
>
>Or reformulating, I have the task to reimplement existing application
>(workflow designer) in Swing using GEF with EMF. The problem is that I do
>not see how I can match already created with Castor files in XML (that is,
>workflow definitions in XML, associated with wf nodes data in XML, palettes
>definitions, templates, etc. uploaded/downloaded to/from server-side BPM
>engine) using EMF/GEF
>
>Guennadi Vanine
>
>
>
>


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Guennadi,<br>
<br>
I don't think they are really comparable.&nbsp; XSD's purpose is to model
XML Schema, i.e., to represent XML Schema instances, whereas Castor is
yet another XML binding approach, which is more comparable to EMF's&nbsp;
XML Schema -&gt; Ecore -&gt; Java binding.&nbsp; If you have a schema
representing the XML syntax, you might want to following this tutorial
and compare the results to Castor's result:<br>
<blockquote><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href=" http://eclipse.org/emf/docs.php?doc=tutorials/xlibmod/xlibmo d.html"> http://eclipse.org/emf/docs.php?doc=tutorials/xlibmod/xlibmo d.html</a><br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Guennadi Vanine wrote:
<blockquote cite="middsl15t$cm$1@utils.eclipse.org" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Hi, all,
Can anybody outline me functionalities of Apache Castor vs. Eclipse XSD
framework? or any other Eclipse frameworks covering all Apache Castor
functionalities

Or reformulating, I have the task to reimplement existing application
(workflow designer) in Swing using GEF with EMF. The problem is that I do
not see how I can match already created with Castor files in XML (that is,
workflow definitions in XML, associated with wf nodes data in XML, palettes
definitions, templates, etc. uploaded/downloaded to/from server-side BPM
engine) using EMF/GEF

Guennadi Vanine


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Re: Castor vs. XSD? [message #597587 is a reply to message #66062] Mon, 13 February 2006 20:45 Go to previous message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: vgv8.yahoo.com.br

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Thanks, Ed,
really my question was what Eclipse frameworks would match/cover Castor.

This all very great, for developing other frameworks, and it is =
extremely developer-friendly (and even more),
but I need to provide the user of a final product (workflow designer) =
the ability to import/export custom XML formats (of created with =
existing workflow designer, wf definitions, associated data, palettes =
and elements of palettes). That is what already exist in app made in =
Swing with Castor that I should "extend" in GEG with EMF and I even do =
not see how I would simply match it in EMF/GEF.

Guennadi Vanine=20
"Ed Merks" <merks@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message =
news:dspsbi$7mm$1@utils.eclipse.org...
Guennadi,

I don't think they are really comparable. XSD's purpose is to model =
XML Schema, i.e., to represent XML Schema instances, whereas Castor is =
yet another XML binding approach, which is more comparable to EMF's XML =
Schema -> Ecore -> Java binding. If you have a schema representing the =
XML syntax, you might want to following this tutorial and compare the =
results to Castor's result:

http://eclipse.org/emf/docs.php?doc=3Dtutorials/xlibmod/xlib mod.html


Guennadi Vanine wrote:=20
Hi, all,
Can anybody outline me functionalities of Apache Castor vs. Eclipse XSD=20
framework? or any other Eclipse frameworks covering all Apache Castor=20
functionalities

Or reformulating, I have the task to reimplement existing application=20
(workflow designer) in Swing using GEF with EMF. The problem is that I =
do=20
not see how I can match already created with Castor files in XML (that =
is,=20
workflow definitions in XML, associated with wf nodes data in XML, =
palettes=20
definitions, templates, etc. uploaded/downloaded to/from server-side BPM =

engine) using EMF/GEF

Guennadi Vanine=20


=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks, Ed,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>really my question was what Eclipse =
frameworks=20
would match/cover Castor.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This all very great, for developing =
other=20
frameworks,&nbsp;and it is &nbsp;extremely developer-friendly (and even=20
more),</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but I need to provide the user of a =
final product=20
(workflow designer) the&nbsp;ability &nbsp;to&nbsp;import/export =
custom&nbsp;XML=20
formats (of created with existing workflow designer, wf definitions, =
associated=20
data, &nbsp;palettes and elements of palettes). That is&nbsp;what =
already exist=20
in app made&nbsp;in Swing with Castor that I should "extend" in GEG with =
EMF and=20
I even do not see how I would simply match it in EMF/GEF.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Guennadi Vanine</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Guennadi,

Sorry, I have no expertise in Castor on which to draw comparisons, so I
don't know which particular features you are hoping to see. Certainly
everything you see demonstrated in the tutorial can be done
programmatically at runtime, i.e., given a schema, you'll be able to
read and write XML instances that conform it, even without generating
any code but using dynamic Ecore instead...


Guennadi Vanine wrote:
> Thanks, Ed,
> really my question was what Eclipse frameworks would match/cover Castor.
>
> This all very great, for developing other frameworks, and it is
> extremely developer-friendly (and even more),
> but I need to provide the user of a final product (workflow designer)
> the ability to import/export custom XML formats (of created with
> existing workflow designer, wf definitions, associated data, palettes
> and elements of palettes). That is what already exist in app made in
> Swing with Castor that I should "extend" in GEG with EMF and I even do
> not see how I would simply match it in EMF/GEF.
>
> Guennadi Vanine
>
> "Ed Merks" <merks@ca.ibm.com <mailto:merks@ca.ibm.com>> wrote in
> message news:dspsbi$7mm$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> Guennadi,
>
> I don't think they are really comparable. XSD's purpose is to
> model XML Schema, i.e., to represent XML Schema instances, whereas
> Castor is yet another XML binding approach, which is more
> comparable to EMF's XML Schema -> Ecore -> Java binding. If you
> have a schema representing the XML syntax, you might want to
> following this tutorial and compare the results to Castor's result:
>
> http://eclipse.org/emf/docs.php?doc=tutorials/xlibmod/xlibmo d.html
>
>
> Guennadi Vanine wrote:
>> Hi, all,
>> Can anybody outline me functionalities of Apache Castor vs. Eclipse XSD
>> framework? or any other Eclipse frameworks covering all Apache Castor
>> functionalities
>>
>> Or reformulating, I have the task to reimplement existing application
>> (workflow designer) in Swing using GEF with EMF. The problem is that I do
>> not see how I can match already created with Castor files in XML (that is,
>> workflow definitions in XML, associated with wf nodes data in XML, palettes
>> definitions, templates, etc. uploaded/downloaded to/from server-side BPM
>> engine) using EMF/GEF
>>
>> Guennadi Vanine
>>
>>
>>
>


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Guennadi,<br>
<br>
Sorry, I have no expertise in Castor on which to draw comparisons, so I
don't know which particular features you are hoping to see.&nbsp; Certainly
everything you see demonstrated in the tutorial can be done
programmatically at runtime, i.e., given a schema, you'll be able to
read and write XML instances that conform it, even without generating
any code but using dynamic Ecore instead...<br>
<br>
<br>
Guennadi Vanine wrote:
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Thanks, Ed,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">really my question was what Eclipse
frameworks would match/cover Castor.</font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">This all very great, for developing
other frameworks,&nbsp;and it is &nbsp;extremely developer-friendly (and even
more),</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">but I need to provide the user of a
final product (workflow designer) the&nbsp;ability &nbsp;to&nbsp;import/export
custom&nbsp;XML formats (of created with existing workflow designer, wf
definitions, associated data, &nbsp;palettes and elements of palettes). That
is&nbsp;what already exist in app made&nbsp;in Swing with Castor that I should
"extend" in GEG with EMF and I even do not see how I would simply match
it in EMF/GEF.</font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Guennadi Vanine</font>&nbsp;</div>
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<div>"Ed Merks" &lt;<a href="mailto:merks@ca.ibm.com">merks@ca.ibm.com</a>&gt;
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Guennadi,<br>
<br>
I don't think they are really comparable.&nbsp; XSD's purpose is to model
XML Schema, i.e., to represent XML Schema instances, whereas Castor is
yet another XML binding approach, which is more comparable to EMF's&nbsp;
XML Schema -&gt; Ecore -&gt; Java binding.&nbsp; If you have a schema
representing the XML syntax, you might want to following this tutorial
and compare the results to Castor's result:<br>
<blockquote><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href=" http://eclipse.org/emf/docs.php?doc=tutorials/xlibmod/xlibmo d.html"> http://eclipse.org/emf/docs.php?doc=tutorials/xlibmod/xlibmo d.html</a><br>
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Guennadi Vanine wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hi, all,
Can anybody outline me functionalities of Apache Castor vs. Eclipse XSD
framework? or any other Eclipse frameworks covering all Apache Castor
functionalities

Or reformulating, I have the task to reimplement existing application
(workflow designer) in Swing using GEF with EMF. The problem is that I do
not see how I can match already created with Castor files in XML (that is,
workflow definitions in XML, associated with wf nodes data in XML, palettes
definitions, templates, etc. uploaded/downloaded to/from server-side BPM
engine) using EMF/GEF

Guennadi Vanine


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