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[SOLVED] Which book to buy? [message #649020] Mon, 17 January 2011 10:08 Go to next message
Grzegorz is currently offline GrzegorzFriend
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Hi all
What good, complete and reliable (not outdated) book would you suggest for Eclipse RCP beginner?

Thanks for any suggestions

[Updated on: Wed, 19 January 2011 12:13]

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Re: Which book to buy? [message #649375 is a reply to message #649020] Wed, 19 January 2011 00:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 1/17/2011 5:08 AM, Grzegorz wrote:
> Hi all
> What good, complete and reliable (not outdated) book would you suggest
> for Eclipse RCP beginner?
>
> Thanks for any suggestions
http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie =UTF-8&q=eclipse+rcp#hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&a mp;q=eclipse+rcp+book&cp=13&qe=ZWNsaXBzZSByY3AgYg&am p;qesig=T3I8P8w-9hEiXug9W47lzA&pkc=AFgZ2tldGfcMgrc5cGDWZ _O9QFvVE45L8sz5XtRp3BKoIQuEPRufwd3U-O7qvJ3VY9LuNNxxZoy131tpx JNAx8Gbiqoukc99ew&pf=p&sclient=psy&source=hp& ;aq=0&aqi=&aql=&oq=eclipse+rcp+b&pbx=1&f p=ee5b8d49ec6ea034
[SOLVED] Which book to buy? [message #649453 is a reply to message #649375] Wed, 19 January 2011 09:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Grzegorz is currently offline GrzegorzFriend
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Mark wrote on Wed, 19 January 2011 01:19
On 1/17/2011 5:08 AM, Grzegorz wrote:
> Hi all
> What good, complete and reliable (not outdated) book would you suggest
> for Eclipse RCP beginner?
>
> Thanks for any suggestions
http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie =UTF-8&q=eclipse+rcp#hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&a mp;a mp;a mp;a mp;q=eclipse+rcp+book&cp=13&qe=ZWNsaXBzZSByY3AgYg&am p;am p;am p;am p;qesig=T3I8P8w-9hEiXug9W47lzA&pkc=AFgZ2tldGfcMgrc5cGDWZ _O9QFvVE45L8sz5XtRp3BKoIQuEPRufwd3U-O7qvJ3VY9LuNNxxZoy131tpx JNAx8Gbiqoukc99ew&pf=p&sclient=psy&source=hp& ;amp ;amp ;amp ;aq=0&aqi=&aql=&oq=eclipse+rcp+b&pbx=1&f p=ee5b8d49ec6ea034


Are you kidding? Do you think that I didn't do that?
I have just asked you guys, because majority of books I have found have conflicted reviews and some of them were really outdated (e.g. 5-6 years).
[In my question I clearly asked about complete and reliable (not outdated) book]

I have just wanted to find out on what books did you learn (if any).

But if that topic is going to go in direction "fool, ask google first", so TOPIC TO CLOSE, and forget you've ever seen it.

@Mark
Sorry for wasting your time while reading my post, but I won't beg you for help.

Bye

[Updated on: Wed, 19 January 2011 15:45]

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Re: Which book to buy? [message #650643 is a reply to message #649453] Tue, 25 January 2011 19:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dan Pollitt is currently offline Dan PollittFriend
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I think "Eclipse Rich Client Platform Second Edition" by Jeff McAffer,
Jean-Michel Lemieux and Chris Aniszczyk is really good and pretty current
(may 2010 - 3.5 with ref to 3.6). ISBN-13: 978-0-321-60378-4

For interesting looks at some specialist areas I enjoyed "Practical Eclipse
Rich Client Platform Projects" by Vladimir Silva 2009. ISBN-13:
978-1-4302-1827-2

Dan

Grzegorz <gregory.d3@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark wrote on Wed, 19 January 2011 01:19
>> On 1/17/2011 5:08 AM, Grzegorz wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>> What good, complete and reliable (not outdated) book would you suggest
>>> for Eclipse RCP beginner?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any suggestions
>> http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie
>> =UTF-8&q=eclipse+rcp#hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&a mp;a mp;a
>> mp;q=eclipse+rcp+book&cp=13&qe=ZWNsaXBzZSByY3AgYg&am p;am p;am
>> p;qesig=T3I8P8w-9hEiXug9W47lzA&pkc=AFgZ2tldGfcMgrc5cGDWZ
>> _O9QFvVE45L8sz5XtRp3BKoIQuEPRufwd3U-O7qvJ3VY9LuNNxxZoy131tpx
>> JNAx8Gbiqoukc99ew&pf=p&sclient=psy&source=hp& ;amp ;amp
>> ;aq=0&aqi=&aql=&oq=eclipse+rcp+b&pbx=1&f p=ee5b8d49ec6ea034
>
>
> Are you kidding? Do you think that it didn't do that?
> I have just asked you guys, because majority of books I have found have
> conflicted reviews and some of them were really outdated (e.g. 5-6 years).
> [In my question I clearly asked about complete and reliable (not outdated) book]
>
> I have just wanted to find out on what books did you learn (if any).
>
> But if that topic is going to go in direction "fool, ask google first",
> so TOPIC TO CLOSE, and forget you've ever seen it.
>
> @Mark
> Sorry for wasting your time while reading my post, but I won't beg you for help.
>
> Bye
Re: Which book to buy? [message #651245 is a reply to message #650643] Fri, 28 January 2011 14:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Frecklefoot is currently offline FrecklefootFriend
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Dan Pollitt wrote on Tue, 25 January 2011 14:28
I think "Eclipse Rich Client Platform Second Edition" by Jeff McAffer,
Jean-Michel Lemieux and Chris Aniszczyk is really good and pretty current
(may 2010 - 3.5 with ref to 3.6).


This book may have been good when it came out, but now it is hopelessly outdated and the information doesn't map well to the latest version of the Eclipse IDE. The book begins well, but as soon as one attempts to do things in the IDE, the trouble begins. The book begins to fall apart in Chapter 3 during the Target Platform Setup. It's completely unworkable. Since that's optional at that point, it can be skipped. But another roadblock occurs in Chapter 5 in "Adding the Contacts View to a Perspective". It doesn't work and even the code that can be downloaded from the accompanying website doesn't work (it runs, but it doesn't do what the book shows it's supposed to). Mad

To be fair, up until the roadblock in Chapter 5 (and the unworkable Target Platform Setup in Chapter 3), the book is fairly good. But given that there's 29 chapters, 83% of the book is useless. I can't recommend this book to anyone attempting to learn the Eclipse RCP. If a Version 3 comes out, it may be worth picking up, but that remains to be seen. Stay away from this book unless you have an ERCP expert on hand to get you past the unreliable sections of the book.
Re: Which book to buy? [message #654759 is a reply to message #649453] Wed, 16 February 2011 23:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mark is currently offline MarkFriend
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On 1/19/2011 4:54 AM, Grzegorz wrote:
> Mark wrote on Wed, 19 January 2011 01:19
>> On 1/17/2011 5:08 AM, Grzegorz wrote:
>> > Hi all
>> > What good, complete and reliable (not outdated) book would you suggest
>> > for Eclipse RCP beginner?
>> >
>> > Thanks for any suggestions
>> http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie
>> =UTF-8&q=eclipse+rcp#hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&a mp;a mp;a
>> mp;q=eclipse+rcp+book&cp=13&qe=ZWNsaXBzZSByY3AgYg&am p;am p;am
>> p;qesig=T3I8P8w-9hEiXug9W47lzA&pkc=AFgZ2tldGfcMgrc5cGDWZ
>> _O9QFvVE45L8sz5XtRp3BKoIQuEPRufwd3U-O7qvJ3VY9LuNNxxZoy131tpx
>> JNAx8Gbiqoukc99ew&pf=p&sclient=psy&source=hp& ;amp ;amp
>> ;aq=0&aqi=&aql=&oq=eclipse+rcp+b&pbx=1&f p=ee5b8d49ec6ea034
>
>
> Are you kidding? Do you think that it didn't do that?
> I have just asked you guys, because majority of books I have found have
> conflicted reviews and some of them were really outdated (e.g. 5-6 years).
> [In my question I clearly asked about complete and reliable (not
> outdated) book]
>
> I have just wanted to find out on what books did you learn (if any).
>
> But if that topic is going to go in direction "fool, ask google first",
> so TOPIC TO CLOSE, and forget you've ever seen it.
>
> @Mark
> Sorry for wasting your time while reading my post, but I won't beg you
> for help.
>
> Bye
You didn't need to beg. you COULD have said what books you did find. I
just didn't feel like typing in what the link says. Since you googled
it, how would you think that we would know of any other book?
Heck, I asked a valid question, one on architecture, and not a frigin
answer. And you whine because posted a link to the only book.

FYI - I used the first Eclipse Book even though it was outdated, a few
years back.
Re: [SOLVED] Which book to buy? [message #654962 is a reply to message #649020] Thu, 17 February 2011 18:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jon Svede is currently offline Jon SvedeFriend
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All the books are usually behind the latest releases, so if you want to be on the cutting edge your best friend could be the debugger. I have the Plugins 3rd edition and the RCP book mentioned previously, both are good but sometimes are lacking b/c I am using Helios/Galileo now for my dev platform and target platform, respectively.

However, if you want good tutorials I'd highly recommend Lars Vogel's website on Eclipse:

http://www.vogella.de/eclipse.html

He does a really good job of keeping it simple. His examples are straightforward but not too simple. It's probably my favorite resource.

Another great website is maintained by Prakash G.R.:

http://eclipse-tips.com/

He's got some great content there as well.

I think both of these people are Eclipse committers, and I suspect there are other committers who share the knowledge freely online.

I know those aren't books, but I've been learning RCP for a while and I still find these resources really helpful. The eclipse IDE/Platform gets release seemingly once a year and it's hard to keep the books up to date at the same pace.

RCP is a full contact sport, it's not for the timid. Wink

HTH,

Jon
Re: [SOLVED] Which book to buy? [message #740345 is a reply to message #654962] Tue, 18 October 2011 12:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paula  is currently offline Paula Friend
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Hi!

I'm a beginner and I started with Eclipse Rich Client Platform, 2nd Edition because people said that was a good book! In chapter 5 I managed to solve one small problem in 1 day! After that and with the "help" of RCP book samples manager I simply couldn't do anything! Nothing works, I don't know if it's my problem! I'm very disappointed. I really would like to learn RPC! Sad

I'm going to try the links above!

But this book really...for beginners...no way!

Thanks!

Paula
Re: [SOLVED] Which book to buy? [message #742076 is a reply to message #740345] Thu, 20 October 2011 06:34 Go to previous message
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I second this.

There is no really good, reliable book for RCP beginners, and it's been that way for a long time.

Quite a shame Sad
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