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Difference between e4 and Eclipse SDK 4.0? [message #644140] Thu, 09 December 2010 16:37 Go to next message
John Lussmyer is currently offline John Lussmyer
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I'm looking at starting development on a Desktop application.
I was thinking of just using Eclipse RCP, but then I found the e4 project, and now I see there is an Eclipse SDK 4.0 Early Adopter project.

So, what's the difference between e4 and Eclipse SDK 4.0?
Re: Difference between e4 and Eclipse SDK 4.0? [message #644607 is a reply to message #644140] Mon, 13 December 2010 12:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul Webster is currently offline Paul Webster
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John Lussmyer wrote:
> I'm looking at starting development on a Desktop application.
> I was thinking of just using Eclipse RCP, but then I found the e4
> project, and now I see there is an Eclipse SDK 4.0 Early Adopter project.

e4 is a technology/incubator project. It includes a lot of different
technologies (including the Modeled Workbench and CSS support), and is
developing version 0.11.

Eclipse 4.0 is the eclipse SDK, using some of the projects from e4 (like
Modeled Workbench and CSS support), plus a compatibility layer (at the
org.eclipse.ui level) so that 3.x based plugins can run on it.

PW


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Re: Difference between e4 and Eclipse SDK 4.0? [message #644894 is a reply to message #644607] Tue, 14 December 2010 16:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John Lussmyer is currently offline John Lussmyer
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So, any recommendations on which to use if I want to start work on a standalone application?
I was looking at RCP because I needed the Docking, Command handling, Menu handling, etc.. all the framework parts of an app.
(Adding plugin support is a bonus in my case.)

So, If I'm starting a new app today, should I use e4, or Eclipse 4.0 SDK?
Re: Difference between e4 and Eclipse SDK 4.0? [message #645306 is a reply to message #644894] Thu, 16 December 2010 12:50 Go to previous message
Paul Webster is currently offline Paul Webster
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On 12/14/2010 11:16 AM, John Lussmyer wrote:
> So, any recommendations on which to use if I want to start work on a
> standalone application?
> I was looking at RCP because I needed the Docking, Command handling,
> Menu handling, etc.. all the framework parts of an app.
> (Adding plugin support is a bonus in my case.)

If you are following a more traditional RCP cookbook and need things
like preference support, the Keys preference page, new/import/export
wizards, hooking into run/debug support, etc, you would probably want
Eclipse 3.6 (3.7 if you don't mind tracking milestones). How much of
the pre-packaged RCP functionality do you want to consume?

You can write a "pure" e4 app without the compatibility layer (which is
what turns e4 into 4.1) but it might limit access to some of the
pre-packaged RCP functionality like wizards and preferences. But you
still have access to parts, perspectives, stacks and sashes for layout,
commands,handlers,menus, and keybindings.

See the Contacts [1] and Photo [1] demos for an example of what can be
done with e4 RCP apps.

[1]
http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/viewvc.cgi/e4/org.eclipse.e4. ui/examples/org.eclipse.e4.demo.contacts/

[2]
http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/viewvc.cgi/e4/org.eclipse.e4. ui/examples/org.eclipse.e4.demo.e4photo/

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