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[buckminster-dev] Newbie to Buckminster [message #638022] Tue, 09 November 2010 16:18 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: paul.french.kirona.com

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Hello All,



Been going round the houses to find a suitable tool to ease our pains and
Buckminster looks the ticket.



We have a number of PDE bundle projects where we use PAX runner to launch
the OSGi framework with a target platform (Knopflerfish + various bundle
jars)



I am trying to start simple and create a cquery to pull out all these
projects from CVS into our eclipse workspace. I've defined the RMAP, no
problems here. First question is how do I pass a CVS version or tag to be
used by my RMAP?



I created another project to hold a buckminster.cspec that holds a list of
dependent modules. All our modules are OSGi bundles. I was under the
impression that if I only specify the main application bundle in the
buckminster.cspec that all dependent bundles would also be materialized for
me. This does not happen, so I am wondering why not?



Our bundle manifests do not use "Require-Bundle" but we use "Import-Package"
so how would Buckminster calculate the dependencies for our main application
bundle? Is this possible or will I need to list all the bundles myself in
the buckminster.cspec?



I've got loads more questions (yes I am reading the BuckyBook.pdf and bits
and pieces from the wiki) but I'll save them based on the answers I hope to
get!!!



Many thanks in advance.



Paul


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>Hello All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>Been going round the houses to =
find a
suitable tool to ease our pains and Buckminster looks the =
ticket.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>We have a number of PDE bundle =
projects
where we use PAX runner to launch the OSGi framework with a target =
platform
(Knopflerfish + various bundle jars)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>I am trying to start simple and =
create a
cquery to pull out all these projects from CVS into our eclipse =
workspace. I&#8217;ve
defined the RMAP, no problems here. First question is how do I pass a =
CVS
version or tag to be used by my RMAP?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>I created another project to =
hold a
buckminster.cspec that holds a list of dependent modules. All our =
modules are
OSGi bundles. I was under the impression that if I only specify the main
application bundle in the buckminster.cspec that all dependent bundles =
would
also be materialized for me. This does not happen, so I am wondering why =
not?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>Our bundle manifests do not use =
&#8220;Require-Bundle&#8221;
but we use &#8220;Import-Package&#8221; so how would Buckminster =
calculate the dependencies
for our main application bundle? Is this possible or will I need to list =
all
the bundles myself in the buckminster.cspec?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>I&#8217;ve got loads more =
questions (yes I
am reading the BuckyBook.pdf and bits and pieces from the wiki) but =
I&#8217;ll
save them based on the answers I hope to get!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>Many thanks in =
advance.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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Re: [buckminster-dev] Newbie to Buckminster [message #638141 is a reply to message #638022] Wed, 10 November 2010 07:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thomas Hallgren is currently offline Thomas Hallgren
Messages: 3229
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Paul,

On 11/09/2010 05:18 PM, Paul French wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> Been going round the houses to find a suitable tool to ease our pains
> and Buckminster looks the ticket.
>
> We have a number of PDE bundle projects where we use PAX runner to
> launch the OSGi framework with a target platform (Knopflerfish + various
> bundle jars)
>
> I am trying to start simple and create a cquery to pull out all these
> projects from CVS into our eclipse workspace. I’ve defined the RMAP, no
> problems here. First question is how do I pass a CVS version or tag to
> be used by my RMAP?
>
You enter a tag-branch path in your CQUERY. The cvs reader type will pick it up.

> I created another project to hold a buckminster.cspec that holds a list
> of dependent modules. All our modules are OSGi bundles. I was under the
> impression that if I only specify the main application bundle in the
> buckminster.cspec that all dependent bundles would also be materialized
> for me. This does not happen, so I am wondering why not?
>
> Our bundle manifests do not use “Require-Bundle” but we use
> “Import-Package” so how would Buckminster calculate the dependencies for
> our main application bundle? Is this possible or will I need to list all
> the bundles myself in the buckminster.cspec?
>
Buckminster doesn't care about import/export package. You'll need to include the bundle somewhere else. Either in a
feature (very common since it's often needed for the install) or in a cspec.

> I’ve got loads more questions (yes I am reading the BuckyBook.pdf and
> bits and pieces from the wiki) but I’ll save them based on the answers I
> hope to get!!!
>
This is the 'buckminster-dev' list. It's intended for question regarding development of Buckminster itself. We also have
a 'buckminster' list which is intended for everyone using Buckminster. I think you'll have a bigger chance of getting
good answers there.

Regards,
Thomas Hallgren
Re: [buckminster-dev] Newbie to Buckminster [message #638190 is a reply to message #638141] Wed, 10 November 2010 09:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: paul.french.kirona.com

Thanks Thomas,

Where is this other mailing list? It is not listed on the wiki or at
http://www.eclipse.org/buckminster/ hence why I used the dev list.

P


-----Original Message-----
From: buckminster-dev-bounces@eclipse.org
[mailto:buckminster-dev-bounces@eclipse.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Hallgren
Sent: 10 November 2010 07:53
To: buckminster-dev@eclipse.org
Subject: Re: [buckminster-dev] Newbie to Buckminster

Hi Paul,

On 11/09/2010 05:18 PM, Paul French wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> Been going round the houses to find a suitable tool to ease our pains
> and Buckminster looks the ticket.
>
> We have a number of PDE bundle projects where we use PAX runner to
> launch the OSGi framework with a target platform (Knopflerfish + various
> bundle jars)
>
> I am trying to start simple and create a cquery to pull out all these
> projects from CVS into our eclipse workspace. I've defined the RMAP, no
> problems here. First question is how do I pass a CVS version or tag to
> be used by my RMAP?
>
You enter a tag-branch path in your CQUERY. The cvs reader type will pick it
up.

> I created another project to hold a buckminster.cspec that holds a list
> of dependent modules. All our modules are OSGi bundles. I was under the
> impression that if I only specify the main application bundle in the
> buckminster.cspec that all dependent bundles would also be materialized
> for me. This does not happen, so I am wondering why not?
>
> Our bundle manifests do not use "Require-Bundle" but we use
> "Import-Package" so how would Buckminster calculate the dependencies for
> our main application bundle? Is this possible or will I need to list all
> the bundles myself in the buckminster.cspec?
>
Buckminster doesn't care about import/export package. You'll need to include
the bundle somewhere else. Either in a
feature (very common since it's often needed for the install) or in a cspec.

> I've got loads more questions (yes I am reading the BuckyBook.pdf and
> bits and pieces from the wiki) but I'll save them based on the answers I
> hope to get!!!
>
This is the 'buckminster-dev' list. It's intended for question regarding
development of Buckminster itself. We also have
a 'buckminster' list which is intended for everyone using Buckminster. I
think you'll have a bigger chance of getting
good answers there.

Regards,
Thomas Hallgren

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Re: [buckminster-dev] Newbie to Buckminster [message #638200 is a reply to message #638190] Wed, 10 November 2010 12:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thomas Hallgren is currently offline Thomas Hallgren
Messages: 3229
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Paul,

Sorry, it's not a mailing list. It's a newsgroup. We should make this more clear on our homepage.

news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.tools.buckminster

Regards,
Thomas Hallgren


On 11/10/2010 10:30 AM, Paul French wrote:
> Thanks Thomas,
>
> Where is this other mailing list? It is not listed on the wiki or at
> http://www.eclipse.org/buckminster/ hence why I used the dev list.
>
> P
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: buckminster-dev-bounces@eclipse.org
> [mailto:buckminster-dev-bounces@eclipse.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Hallgren
> Sent: 10 November 2010 07:53
> To: buckminster-dev@eclipse.org
> Subject: Re: [buckminster-dev] Newbie to Buckminster
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> On 11/09/2010 05:18 PM, Paul French wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Been going round the houses to find a suitable tool to ease our pains
>> and Buckminster looks the ticket.
>>
>> We have a number of PDE bundle projects where we use PAX runner to
>> launch the OSGi framework with a target platform (Knopflerfish + various
>> bundle jars)
>>
>> I am trying to start simple and create a cquery to pull out all these
>> projects from CVS into our eclipse workspace. I've defined the RMAP, no
>> problems here. First question is how do I pass a CVS version or tag to
>> be used by my RMAP?
>>
> You enter a tag-branch path in your CQUERY. The cvs reader type will pick it
> up.
>
>> I created another project to hold a buckminster.cspec that holds a list
>> of dependent modules. All our modules are OSGi bundles. I was under the
>> impression that if I only specify the main application bundle in the
>> buckminster.cspec that all dependent bundles would also be materialized
>> for me. This does not happen, so I am wondering why not?
>>
>> Our bundle manifests do not use "Require-Bundle" but we use
>> "Import-Package" so how would Buckminster calculate the dependencies for
>> our main application bundle? Is this possible or will I need to list all
>> the bundles myself in the buckminster.cspec?
>>
> Buckminster doesn't care about import/export package. You'll need to include
> the bundle somewhere else. Either in a
> feature (very common since it's often needed for the install) or in a cspec.
>
>> I've got loads more questions (yes I am reading the BuckyBook.pdf and
>> bits and pieces from the wiki) but I'll save them based on the answers I
>> hope to get!!!
>>
> This is the 'buckminster-dev' list. It's intended for question regarding
> development of Buckminster itself. We also have
> a 'buckminster' list which is intended for everyone using Buckminster. I
> think you'll have a bigger chance of getting
> good answers there.
>
> Regards,
> Thomas Hallgren
>
> _______________________________________________
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> buckminster-dev@eclipse.org
> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/buckminster-dev
>
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Re: [buckminster-dev] Newbie to Buckminster [message #638260 is a reply to message #638200] Wed, 10 November 2010 13:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Henrik Lindberg is currently offline Henrik Lindberg
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Senior Member
On 11/10/10 1:21 PM, Thomas Hallgren wrote:
> Sorry, it's not a mailing list. It's a newsgroup. We should make this
> more clear on our homepage.
>
> news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.tools.buckminster

All the eclipse newsgroups are also available as a forum/message board
at eclipse if you are not into 'news'.

Regards
- henrik
Re: [buckminster-dev] Newbie to Buckminster [message #638261 is a reply to message #638260] Wed, 10 November 2010 13:33 Go to previous message
Paul  is currently offline Paul
Messages: 7
Registered: November 2010
Junior Member
Thanks.

News group did not work for me. I get some sort of authentication error.

The forums will be fine.

Ta
P

-----Original Message-----
From: buckminster-dev-bounces@eclipse.org
[mailto:buckminster-dev-bounces@eclipse.org] On Behalf Of Henrik Lindberg
Sent: 10 November 2010 13:23
To: buckminster-dev@eclipse.org
Subject: Re: [buckminster-dev] Newbie to Buckminster

On 11/10/10 1:21 PM, Thomas Hallgren wrote:
> Sorry, it's not a mailing list. It's a newsgroup. We should make this
> more clear on our homepage.
>
> news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.tools.buckminster

All the eclipse newsgroups are also available as a forum/message board
at eclipse if you are not into 'news'.

Regards
- henrik

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