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[BOARD] - Open Letter to Eclipse Foundation Board of Directors [message #5502] Thu, 21 October 2004 18:03 Go to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: ilias.lazaridis.com

[To the Eclipse Foundation Executive Director: Please notify the eclipse
foundations board members about this Open Letter. Thank you. ]

-

time needed:
- This Message: ~10min
- Evaluation Summary: + ~15min
- Evaluation Summary Thread: + ~20min

-

ABSTRACT:

1) Release permanent Budget for: Open Source User Dedication /
Representation
2) Add a user representative to the eclipse foundation board.
3) Release one-time Budget for: Independent Efficiency Management (Limited
Time)

-

You may have noticed my appearance in the eclipse community within the
last months.

I have evaluated the eclipse foundation based on public available
resources within eclipse.org (website, newsgroups, Issue Tracking System
(bugzilla), mailing lists [slightly] ).

My preliminary draft summary:

[NEWCOMER] - Evaluation Summary: What is Eclipse NOT !
http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=52&grou p=eclipse.foundation

[Many things are clarified if you read all the thread.]
[note: I’ve not provided pointers to backup my arguments.]

-

You'll find some more topics within the newsgroup "eclipse.foundation",
which essentially summarize my initial findings and suggestions.

-

I would like to suggest the Eclipse Foundations Board three important
steps.

-

1) Release permanent Budget for: Open Source User Dedication /
Representation

There are two basic concepts, which seem at first view contrary:
- "commercially guided foundation government" (which is partly closed /
nontransparent)
- "open source guided foundation projects" (open and transparent, with
small exceptions).

The Foundation should accentuate its commitment to the eclipse open source
_user_ community [especially all those people primary interested in
no-cost toolsets].

If the board approves the budget for a "EMO director dedicated to open
source users", reputation within the open source community would be
increased (This is especially true as the eclipse foundation's board is
mostly populated by commercial members).

a) The board should add one person to the EMO:
- Director, Eclipse Open Source User Community
- (similar to the position "Director, Eclipse Vendor-Ecosystem").

He would be responsible for:
- assisting users within the newsgroups (foundation related issues).
- building the interface between user community and EMO / Board.
- ...

-

2) Add a user representative to the eclipse foundation board.

The Foundation should add a board representative for the open source
_user_ community.

The process for the selection (e.g. voting) should be discussed within the
community.

-

3) Release one-time Budget for: Independent Efficiency Management (Limited
Time)

[Efficiency Management = System Evaluation, Barrier Detection, Barrier
Reduction]

Of course, many different companies or independents could be contracted
for this.

An optimal Efficiency Manager has analytical and abstractional
capabilities (a common skill set within IT) but _low_ amounts of the
systems domain knowledge [this way hitting on much more barriers, which
long time users simply circumvent due to known solutions].

This is the main reason why eclipse long time users, members and
developers cannot fulfil this task on the System "eclipse".

And of course: most (if not all) are busy with their daily work!

-

I've invested already around 500 hours for a first level eclipse teach-in.
Not with the main goal of learning, but with the main goal of detecting
barriers.

I would like to offer you my services for a time frame of 3 months (goal:
eclipseCon in Feb. 2005)

You find below the exact email which I've sent to the Eclipse Foundations
Executive Director on 2004-10-08.

-

I am aware that you are an open source project.

But, aren't you a little bit more?

My offer targets effectively the strategic members (which provide most of
the financial backup) and the vendor-ecosystem of eclipse.

The monetary investment would pay out due to higher throughput of the
development (simplified: higher efficiency, lower costs) and the higher
community-entry/user-contact ratio (= more potential customers, especially
for add-in providers).

You can contact me either within the eclipse.foundation group or via email.

Thank you for your attention.

-
-
-

Copy of the email sent to Executive Director on 2004-10-08:

"
Mike,

first of all thank you for the creation of the eclipse.foundation
newsgroup.

You should know me now a little from my eclipse newsgroups contributions.
Beneath evaluation of eclipse.org, this was something like a showcase of
my skills, say a 'live resume'.

It may interests you, that I have trained public analysis/conversation for
a long time. In the last 4 years I have 'lived' around 1 year in online
discussion media.

I would like to assist eclipse in becoming the undoubtalbe no. 1 in the
IDE/tool/framework market. One reason is that I will most possibly use it
for my own long term projects.

I estimate that I could increase the efficiency of the team / community
within 3 months - without any influence of the daily production flow. To
give you a factor: productivity gain of around 5%.

This would happen due to 'chirugical' interventions, mainly on the public
available infrastructure and partly within the community (very 'light'
changes, as community is very sensitive to such things).

This would happen in parallel to some structural and content redesign
(criteria: clarity, efficiency) of the website, which you could use as an
template for the new website.

I have currently all the eclipse.org domain knowledge active, thus I would
start with full efficiency.

We can start with a smaller chunk (thus you need to release only a small
budget), e.g. one week in which I create:
- a summary of findings
- one or two demo webpages
- further processing suggestions, grouped for three months.

If you like my work and are able to increase the budget:
- I'll continue with processing the suggestions for the first month.
- evaluation of results, possible extension for 2nd month.
- evaluation of results, possible extension for 3rd month.

[the 3rd month would be most possibly partly on code level, which is
basicly my strongest point.]

I can assure you that I am the ideal person for this task - and i am
already full of enthusiasm and energy!

Thank you for your attention - and please let me know if you are
interested!

Ilias Lazaridis

..

--
http://lazaridis.com
"

..

--
http://lazaridis.com
Re: [BOARD] - Open Letter to Eclipse Foundation Board of Directors [message #5663 is a reply to message #5502] Tue, 26 October 2004 12:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: dostick.gmail.com

What eclipse need is more DEVELOPERS.
That would solve 99% of problems.


ilias wrote:
> [To the Eclipse Foundation Executive Director: Please notify the
> eclipse foundations board members about this Open Letter. Thank you. ]
>
> -
>
> time needed:
> - This Message: ~10min
> - Evaluation Summary: + ~15min
> - Evaluation Summary Thread: + ~20min
>
> -
>
> ABSTRACT:
>
> 1) Release permanent Budget for: Open Source User Dedication /
> Representation
> 2) Add a user representative to the eclipse foundation board.
> 3) Release one-time Budget for: Independent Efficiency Management
> (Limited Time)
>
> -
>
> You may have noticed my appearance in the eclipse community within the
> last months.
>
> I have evaluated the eclipse foundation based on public available
> resources within eclipse.org (website, newsgroups, Issue Tracking
> System (bugzilla), mailing lists [slightly] ).
>
> My preliminary draft summary:
>
> [NEWCOMER] - Evaluation Summary: What is Eclipse NOT !
> http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=52&grou p=eclipse.foundation
>
>
> [Many things are clarified if you read all the thread.]
> [note: I’ve not provided pointers to backup my arguments.]
>
> -
>
> You'll find some more topics within the newsgroup "eclipse.foundation",
> which essentially summarize my initial findings and suggestions.
>
> -
>
> I would like to suggest the Eclipse Foundations Board three important
> steps.
>
> -
>
> 1) Release permanent Budget for: Open Source User Dedication /
> Representation
>
> There are two basic concepts, which seem at first view contrary:
> - "commercially guided foundation government" (which is partly closed
> / nontransparent)
> - "open source guided foundation projects" (open and transparent,
> with small exceptions).
>
> The Foundation should accentuate its commitment to the eclipse open
> source _user_ community [especially all those people primary interested
> in no-cost toolsets].
>
> If the board approves the budget for a "EMO director dedicated to open
> source users", reputation within the open source community would be
> increased (This is especially true as the eclipse foundation's board is
> mostly populated by commercial members).
>
> a) The board should add one person to the EMO:
> - Director, Eclipse Open Source User Community
> - (similar to the position "Director, Eclipse Vendor-Ecosystem").
>
> He would be responsible for:
> - assisting users within the newsgroups (foundation related issues).
> - building the interface between user community and EMO / Board.
> - ...
>
> -
>
> 2) Add a user representative to the eclipse foundation board.
>
> The Foundation should add a board representative for the open source
> _user_ community.
>
> The process for the selection (e.g. voting) should be discussed within
> the community.
>
> -
>
> 3) Release one-time Budget for: Independent Efficiency Management
> (Limited Time)
>
> [Efficiency Management = System Evaluation, Barrier Detection, Barrier
> Reduction]
>
> Of course, many different companies or independents could be contracted
> for this.
>
> An optimal Efficiency Manager has analytical and abstractional
> capabilities (a common skill set within IT) but _low_ amounts of the
> systems domain knowledge [this way hitting on much more barriers, which
> long time users simply circumvent due to known solutions].
>
> This is the main reason why eclipse long time users, members and
> developers cannot fulfil this task on the System "eclipse".
>
> And of course: most (if not all) are busy with their daily work!
>
> -
>
> I've invested already around 500 hours for a first level eclipse
> teach-in. Not with the main goal of learning, but with the main goal of
> detecting barriers.
>
> I would like to offer you my services for a time frame of 3 months
> (goal: eclipseCon in Feb. 2005)
>
> You find below the exact email which I've sent to the Eclipse
> Foundations Executive Director on 2004-10-08.
>
> -
>
> I am aware that you are an open source project.
>
> But, aren't you a little bit more?
>
> My offer targets effectively the strategic members (which provide most
> of the financial backup) and the vendor-ecosystem of eclipse.
>
> The monetary investment would pay out due to higher throughput of the
> development (simplified: higher efficiency, lower costs) and the higher
> community-entry/user-contact ratio (= more potential customers,
> especially for add-in providers).
>
> You can contact me either within the eclipse.foundation group or via email.
>
> Thank you for your attention.
>
> -
> -
> -
>
> Copy of the email sent to Executive Director on 2004-10-08:
>
> "
> Mike,
>
> first of all thank you for the creation of the eclipse.foundation
> newsgroup.
>
> You should know me now a little from my eclipse newsgroups
> contributions. Beneath evaluation of eclipse.org, this was something
> like a showcase of my skills, say a 'live resume'.
>
> It may interests you, that I have trained public analysis/conversation
> for a long time. In the last 4 years I have 'lived' around 1 year in
> online discussion media.
>
> I would like to assist eclipse in becoming the undoubtalbe no. 1 in the
> IDE/tool/framework market. One reason is that I will most possibly use
> it for my own long term projects.
>
> I estimate that I could increase the efficiency of the team / community
> within 3 months - without any influence of the daily production flow.
> To give you a factor: productivity gain of around 5%.
>
> This would happen due to 'chirugical' interventions, mainly on the
> public available infrastructure and partly within the community (very
> 'light' changes, as community is very sensitive to such things).
>
> This would happen in parallel to some structural and content redesign
> (criteria: clarity, efficiency) of the website, which you could use as
> an template for the new website.
>
> I have currently all the eclipse.org domain knowledge active, thus I
> would start with full efficiency.
>
> We can start with a smaller chunk (thus you need to release only a
> small budget), e.g. one week in which I create:
> - a summary of findings
> - one or two demo webpages
> - further processing suggestions, grouped for three months.
>
> If you like my work and are able to increase the budget:
> - I'll continue with processing the suggestions for the first month.
> - evaluation of results, possible extension for 2nd month.
> - evaluation of results, possible extension for 3rd month.
>
> [the 3rd month would be most possibly partly on code level, which is
> basicly my strongest point.]
>
> I can assure you that I am the ideal person for this task - and i am
> already full of enthusiasm and energy!
>
> Thank you for your attention - and please let me know if you are
> interested!
>
> Ilias Lazaridis
>
> .
>
Re: [BOARD] - Open Letter to Eclipse Foundation Board of Directors [message #5721 is a reply to message #5663] Tue, 26 October 2004 17:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: ilias.lazaridis.com

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:42:51 +0200, Roman R <dostick@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> What eclipse need is more DEVELOPERS.

Please review my writings once more.

Main Goals of the suggested Independent Efficiency Management were:

- increase throughput of current teams, by increasing efficiency of
surrounding systems & processes
- increase developer count (= more DEVELOPERS), by attracting open source
developers.

> That would solve 99% of problems.

Simply adding developers would not solve most of the current problems (in
an long-term view).

..

--
http://lazaridis.com
Re: [BOARD] - Open Letter to Eclipse Foundation Board of Directors [message #8024 is a reply to message #5502] Wed, 08 December 2004 16:58 Go to previous message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: ilias.lazaridis.com

ilias wrote:
> [To the Eclipse Foundation Executive Director: Please notify the
> eclipse foundations board members about this Open Letter. Thank you. ]
>
> -
>
> time needed:
> - This Message: ~10min
> - Evaluation Summary: + ~15min
> - Evaluation Summary Thread: + ~20min
>
> -
>
> ABSTRACT:
>
> 1) Release permanent Budget for: Open Source User Dedication /
> Representation
> 2) Add a user representative to the eclipse foundation board.
> 3) Release one-time Budget for: Independent Efficiency Management
> (Limited Time)
[...]

I did not got a response to this message, but I hope the eclipse
foundation will detect at least the importancy of the first 2 steps.

-

Today [2nd Wednesday of December] should be the board-meeting, and I
hope those topics - especially "Open Source User Dedication" and "User
Representative" will be discussed there.

> I have evaluated the eclipse foundation based on public available
> resources within eclipse.org (website, newsgroups, Issue Tracking
> System (bugzilla), mailing lists [slightly] ).
>
> My preliminary draft summary:
>
> [NEWCOMER] - Evaluation Summary: What is Eclipse NOT !
> http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=52&grou p=eclipse.foundation
[...]

I've finalized my netBeans evaluation and will most possibly (99,9%) use
eclipse for my personal projects.

-

[EVALUATION] - E10 - Summary: NetBeans is NOT open source, Sun is...
http://www.netbeans.org/servlets/ReadMsg?msgId=867428&li stName=nbusers

-

[EVALUATION] - E11 - Sun Microsystems Board of Directors
http://www.netbeans.org/servlets/ReadMsg?msgId=871387&li stName=nbusers

-

NetBeans has some strenghts, which can easily adopted by eclipse.

-

I'm currently working on a case-study, which can serve as an templated
for similar projects:

http://lazaridis.com/case/ide/

Will clarify all this shortly within the relevant threads
(eclipse.foundation) whilst working further on the case-study, my
website and some concrete suggestions to the eclipse project.

..

--
http://lazaridis.com
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