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RE: [stp-newsgroup] from IRD today [message #571231] Thu, 12 January 2006 21:17
Daniel Berg is currently offline Daniel Berg
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I am against using maven for the build system. Maven is a wise choice for
these runtime projects. For eclipse projects there is no reason we should
not be using the eclipsed based builds which read the manifest
information. I don't know of any eclipse project that isn't using the
eclipse build process.

Regards,
Dan





"Sakala, Adinarayana" <ASAKALA@iona.com>
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> 1. get a concrete proposal for our build system before the
> IRC next weeks IRC
I would like to strongly recommend using Maven 2 for build system.
Both Tuscany and Celtix projects are using maven and i assume it will be a
good logical thing to use.

thanks,
Adi

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trieloff, Carl
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 12:50 PM
> To: Gateway between eclipse.stp and stp-newsgroup
> Subject: [stp-newsgroup] from IRD today
>
>
>
>
> Two actions from IRC today.
>
> 1. get a concrete proposal for our build system before the
> IRC next weeks IRC
> 2. Get the basic pages up for STP project on eclipse.org
>
> Regards
> Carl.
>
>
>
>
> [12:03] cctrieloff: It does not seem that everyone got the
> details for the IRC today.
> [12:04] cctrieloff: We will wait a few minutes and then get started
> [12:05] cctrieloff: did you get it from the list?
> [12:05] rmarins: I'm fine. yes, I got from the newsgroup
> [12:05] cctrieloff: great, I have 4 guys on the phone, that
> could get onto IRC, so I will act as the bridge
> [12:06] rmarins: it'll hard for you, but let's see how works
> [12:07] cctrieloff: have you got your committer setup back
> from the eclipse EMO for STP yet?
> [12:08] rmarins: yep, i sent agreements by fax yesterday
> morning, and filled up the questionary by today
> [12:09] rmarins: i mean, on my side it's almost done. I'm
> waiting for my account
> [12:09] cctrieloff: Seems to be the common state that we are
> all still waiting for accounts.
> [12:10] cctrieloff: I have been testing the dev lists and
> they have not yet come live, however I expect that CVS might be up
> [12:12] cctrieloff: For the build system we have 3 options
> [12:13] cctrieloff: we have the option form ObjectWeb, from
> Adrian and then a maven setup for build
> [12:14] cctrieloff: what we want to do is have all options
> for the build system discussed by the end of next week, and
> the we will set a team up to get a hello world building,
> build the tests, run the test and the coverage
> [12:15] cctrieloff: that sound reasonable?
> [12:15] DavidBosschaert: Sounds great!
> [12:16] cctrieloff: As an action we ask for all those that
> want to be involved in buildset to self identify and pitch in
> over the next week in working that out
> [12:16] rmarins: looks good, however I miss the point
> regarding the ObjectWeb option and from Adrian
> [12:17] cctrieloff: Someone form ObjectWeb has said that they
> would like to be involved and had some ideas around this area
> [12:17] cctrieloff: The goal will be to have a proposal to
> implement for the IRC next week
> [12:18] cctrieloff: Talking about the creation of the Website
> [12:19] cctrieloff: What I was thinking was to copy the basic
> structure from WTP for home, about , committer page and CVS
> questions etc
> [12:20] cctrieloff: I will then place our charter
> [12:21] cctrieloff: and then we will build the STP specific
> content form there, all ok with that?
> [12:21] DavidBosschaert: Sounds like a good starting point.
> [12:22] rmarins: yep. just remember: including subprojects sections
> [12:23] cctrieloff: are you saying we should include the
> subprojects in the initial setup of the page?
> [12:25] rmarins: yes, subprojects description. thus, we setup
> each subproject specific pages
> [12:25] cctrieloff: I think that we might want get the
> project text reviewed by a larger group.
> [12:25] cctrieloff: ok just the subprojects and a basic
> description, then add the pages behind that with group review?
> [12:25] rmarins: yes, that's right!
> [12:27] cctrieloff: we have closed the audio. We will action
> these two items for next week while we wait out lists and CVS
> from the EMO
> [12:28] rmarins: good. until there, discussions go under the
> current newsgroups, right?
> [12:29] cctrieloff: correct
> [12:29] cctrieloff: I will post this to the news list
> [12:29] rmarins: great
> _______________________________________________
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I am against using maven for the build
system. &nbsp;Maven is a wise choice for these runtime projects. &nbsp;For
eclipse projects there is no reason we should not be using the eclipsed
based builds which read the manifest information. &nbsp;I don't know of
any eclipse project that isn't using the eclipse build process.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Regards,<br>
Dan<br>
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<br><font size=2><tt>&gt; 1. get a concrete proposal for our build system
before the <br>
&gt; IRC next weeks IRC<br>
I would like to strongly recommend using Maven 2 for build system.<br>
Both Tuscany and Celtix projects are using maven and i assume it will be
a good logical thing to use.<br>
<br>
thanks,<br>
Adi <br>
<br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: Trieloff, Carl <br>
&gt; Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 12:50 PM<br>
&gt; To: Gateway between eclipse.stp and stp-newsgroup<br>
&gt; Subject: [stp-newsgroup] from IRD today<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Two actions from IRC today.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; 1. get a concrete proposal for our build system before the <br>
&gt; IRC next weeks IRC<br>
&gt; 2. Get the basic pages up for STP project on eclipse.org<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Regards<br>
&gt; Carl.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; [12:03] cctrieloff: It does not seem that everyone got the <br>
&gt; details for the IRC today.<br>
&gt; [12:04] cctrieloff: We will wait a few minutes and then get started<br>
&gt; [12:05] cctrieloff: did you get it from the list?<br>
&gt; [12:05] rmarins: I'm fine. yes, I got from the newsgroup<br>
&gt; [12:05] cctrieloff: great, I have 4 guys on the phone, that <br>
&gt; could get onto IRC, so I will act as the bridge<br>
&gt; [12:06] rmarins: it'll hard for you, but let's see how works<br>
&gt; [12:07] cctrieloff: have you got your committer setup back <br>
&gt; from the eclipse EMO for STP yet?<br>
&gt; [12:08] rmarins: yep, i sent agreements by fax yesterday <br>
&gt; morning, and filled up the questionary by today<br>
&gt; [12:09] rmarins: i mean, on my side it's almost done. I'm <br>
&gt; waiting for my account<br>
&gt; [12:09] cctrieloff: Seems to be the common state that we are <br>
&gt; all still waiting for accounts.<br>
&gt; [12:10] cctrieloff: I have been testing the dev lists and <br>
&gt; they have not yet come live, however I expect that CVS might be up<br>
&gt; [12:12] cctrieloff: For the build system we have 3 options<br>
&gt; [12:13] cctrieloff: we have the option form ObjectWeb, from <br>
&gt; Adrian and then a maven setup for build<br>
&gt; [12:14] cctrieloff: what we want to do is have all options <br>
&gt; for the build system discussed by the end of next week, and <br>
&gt; the we will set a team up to get a hello world building, <br>
&gt; build the tests, run the test and the coverage<br>
&gt; [12:15] cctrieloff: that sound reasonable?<br>
&gt; [12:15] DavidBosschaert: Sounds great!<br>
&gt; [12:16] cctrieloff: As an action we ask for all those that <br>
&gt; want to be involved in buildset to self identify and pitch in <br>
&gt; over the next week in working that out<br>
&gt; [12:16] rmarins: looks good, however I miss the point <br>
&gt; regarding the ObjectWeb option and from Adrian<br>
&gt; [12:17] cctrieloff: Someone form ObjectWeb has said that they <br>
&gt; would like to be involved and had some ideas around this area<br>
&gt; [12:17] cctrieloff: The goal will be to have a proposal to <br>
&gt; implement for the IRC next week<br>
&gt; [12:18] cctrieloff: Talking about the creation of the Website<br>
&gt; [12:19] cctrieloff: What I was thinking was to copy the basic <br>
&gt; structure from WTP for home, about , committer page and CVS <br>
&gt; questions etc<br>
&gt; [12:20] cctrieloff: I will then place our charter<br>
&gt; [12:21] cctrieloff: and then we will build the STP specific <br>
&gt; content form there, all ok with that?<br>
&gt; [12:21] DavidBosschaert: Sounds like a good starting point.<br>
&gt; [12:22] rmarins: yep. just remember: including subprojects sections<br>
&gt; [12:23] cctrieloff: are you saying we should include the <br>
&gt; subprojects in the initial setup of the page?<br>
&gt; [12:25] rmarins: yes, subprojects description. thus, we setup <br>
&gt; each subproject specific pages <br>
&gt; [12:25] cctrieloff: I think that we might want get the <br>
&gt; project text reviewed by a larger group.<br>
&gt; [12:25] cctrieloff: ok just the subprojects and a basic <br>
&gt; description, then add the pages behind that with group review?<br>
&gt; [12:25] rmarins: yes, that's right!<br>
&gt; [12:27] cctrieloff: we have closed the audio. We will action <br>
&gt; these two items for next week while we wait out lists and CVS <br>
&gt; from the EMO<br>
&gt; [12:28] rmarins: good. until there, discussions go under the <br>
&gt; current newsgroups, right?<br>
&gt; [12:29] cctrieloff: correct<br>
&gt; [12:29] cctrieloff: I will post this to the news list<br>
&gt; [12:29] rmarins: great<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; stp-newsgroup mailing list<br>
&gt; stp-newsgroup@eclipse.org<br>
&gt; https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/stp-newsgroup<br>
&gt; <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
stp-newsgroup mailing list<br>
stp-newsgroup@eclipse.org<br>
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/stp-newsgroup<br>
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