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icon5.gif  JSDT Product download question [message #558593] Mon, 13 September 2010 11:40 Go to next message
Scott Kellicker is currently offline Scott Kellicker
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I wanted to do some testing/verifying of the latest JSDT product.

Specifically, I was trying to get the Sept 10 Maintenance builds to try the new html5 support and verify some bugs I reported were fixed.

However, on the download page ( http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R3.2.2/ M-3.2.2-20100910064233/), it seems the only way I can download the latest and greatest is by downloading each component. (Eclipse SDK, wtp, gef, etc etc).


Are maintenance builds done of the products? If so, where are they?

Thanks,

Scott

Re: JSDT Product download question [message #558623 is a reply to message #558593] Mon, 13 September 2010 13:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nitin Dahyabhai is currently offline Nitin Dahyabhai
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On 9/13/2010 11:40 AM, Scott Kellicker wrote:
> I wanted to do some testing/verifying of the latest JSDT product.
>
> Specifically, I was trying to get the Sept 10 Maintenance builds to try
> the new html5 support and verify some bugs I reported were fixed.
>
> However, on the download page
> ( http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R3.2.2/ M-3.2.2-20100910064233/),
> it seems the only way I can download the latest and greatest is by
> downloading each component. (Eclipse SDK, wtp, gef, etc etc).
>
>
> Are maintenance builds done of the products? If so, where are they?

I'm not sure what you mean by product, as that has a very specific
meaning in the Eclipse world. If you mean the JSDT project itself,
scrolling down on the download page should let you download just that.
If you don't plan to work inside of web pages, the Eclipse Platform is
all that's required. If you mean the Helios package, that will take a
little longer as each of its parts are finalized, in which case you
would have to download the individual requirements for the parts of WTP
you are planning to use.

As for the support itself, as the announcement said, it's within the
"source editing" project, meaning the HTML editor and validator. JSDT
doesn't yet have updated DOM stubs in either HEAD or maintenance, so
direct references to new types (e.g. HTMLCanvasElement) and new
properties in JavaScript source aren't available and will still be
flagged as unknown.

--
Nitin Dahyabhai
Eclipse WTP Source Editing and JSDT
IBM Rational


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Nitin Dahyabhai
Eclipse WTP, IBM
Re: JSDT Product download question [message #558657 is a reply to message #558623] Mon, 13 September 2010 16:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Scott Kellicker is currently offline Scott Kellicker
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Yes by product, I mean the JSDT product. (features + plugins + laucher + branding)

I do not see a download for the JSDT product anywhere on the downloads page for the maintenance build 3.2.2 which referenced above.
Perhaps I'm just not seeing it, but I'm pretty sure there isn't one there.
Can you post the URL to JSDT product 3.2.2 latest maintenance build?

Scott
Re: JSDT Product download question [message #558672 is a reply to message #558657] Mon, 13 September 2010 16:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nitin Dahyabhai is currently offline Nitin Dahyabhai
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On 9/13/2010 4:10 PM, Scott Kellicker wrote:
> Yes by product, I mean the JSDT product. (features + plugins + laucher
> + branding)
>
> I do not see a download for the JSDT product anywhere on the downloads
> page for the maintenance build 3.2.2 which referenced above.
> Perhaps I'm just not seeing it, but I'm pretty sure there isn't one there.
> Can you post the URL to JSDT product 3.2.2 latest maintenance build?

The latest build would be at
http://build.eclipse.org/webtools/committers/jsdt-R1.2.1-M/2 0100901160042/M-1.2.1-20100901160042/
, which is actually a different "stream" and different page than the
full WTP build since it uses different (fewer) dependencies. My mistake.

There's no "launcher" plug-in included as it can be brought up with the
default org.eclipse.sdk.ide application for a Eclipse Application launch
Configuration.

--
Nitin Dahyabhai
Eclipse WTP Source Editing and JSDT
IBM Rational


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Nitin Dahyabhai
Eclipse WTP, IBM
Re: JSDT Product download question [message #558782 is a reply to message #558672] Tue, 14 September 2010 08:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Scott Kellicker is currently offline Scott Kellicker
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Nitin,

Thanks.

1. Would have never found that. From the projects page (http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/index_project.php), the JSDT download link takes you to the webtools download page (http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/) which does not have a link to the page you provided.

It would be helpful if this easier to find.

2. So what version/stream of the SDK platform would I use this with? I know the latest JSDT code uses update debug.* plugins but the page doesn't talk about what dependencies are correct.
Which brings me to the last point...

3. When I started running JSDT, I downloaded the Helios JSDT Product, which was a stand-alone product. I think its great to provide this product flavor.

What would really help foster the community would be to provide this same configuration in the milestone and integration builds. The same way the Eclipse platform provides the SDK ( http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/M2010090 9-0800/index.php) with all its builds. Extremely useful to be able to download the same configuration and try out the latest features, do some testing, etc. One download, unzip it and run it.

I'd be happy to log a bug if there's a decent chance this would happen.

Thanks again Nitin,

Scott
Re: JSDT Product download question [message #635814 is a reply to message #558782] Thu, 28 October 2010 04:07 Go to previous message
David Williams is currently offline David Williams
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>
> 3. When I started running JSDT, I downloaded the Helios JSDT Product,
> which was a stand-alone product. I think its great to provide this
> product flavor.
>
> What would really help foster the community would be to provide this
> same configuration in the milestone and integration builds. The same way
> the Eclipse platform provides the SDK
> ( http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/M2010090 9-0800/index.php)
> with all its builds. Extremely useful to be able to download the same
> configuration and try out the latest features, do some testing, etc. One
> download, unzip it and run it.
> I'd be happy to log a bug if there's a decent chance this would happen.
>

It very seldom hurts to open a bug or feature request. As long as you
are polite :) and understand there is no guarantee. It is in our plan to
provide a separate download for it ... but it was last year too ...
other things seemed to sneak in with a higher priority. So, your
comments and bugzillas effect those priorities.

But, even then, what we in WTP provide wouldn't quite be "download and
go". Those "products" you like so much are supplied by the EPP project.
I too wish they would provide more frequent builds, and recently asked
them about it on their mailing list:

http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/epp-dev/msg01221.html

So, you might open a bug there too? (EPP is under the Technology project
in bugzilla) just to let them know they are missed by the community and
there really would be people such as your self that would use and test
them.
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