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Re: General Help [message #55135] Fri, 16 January 2009 06:52 Go to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: nickboldt+eclipse+newsgroup.gmail.com

Copying to eclipse.papyrus, eclipse.technology.epf, and
eclipse.technology.osee.

Re: Papyrus

Not sure where you found downloads for Papyrus -- I don't see any listed
on either of these pages:

http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/?project=papyrus
http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/downloads/?project=papyr us

Re: OSEE, they provide detailed install instructions on their website.

http://www.eclipse.org/osee/documentation/installation/eclip se_install.php

Re: EPF, did you read this?

http://www.eclipse.org/epf/general/getting_started.php


Ray Joseph wrote:
> Please help me figure out how to use help in the Eclipse areas. I have
> greatest interests in EPF, OSEE and Papyrus. The information here is
> vast, I have had a difficult time trying to find simple details.
> 1) For example, on the Eclipse download page there are many choices.
> After reading the desciptions of each, I can't tell what I should
> download. My intent is not to develop but to use.
>
> 2) For the Papyrus project, there is a RCP and a plug in. I have no
> idea how to choose. What are the tradeoffs between the two
> installations or is there a reason to use both?
>
> 3) For OSEE, it looks like there are packages that can be downloaded
> but I can't tell which I should pick if I have downloaded some (?) from
> above.
>
> I would appreciate any and all help.
> Thanks
> Ray
>

--
Nick Boldt :: http://wiki.eclipse.org/User:Nickb
Re: General Help [message #55162 is a reply to message #55135] Fri, 16 January 2009 21:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ray Joseph is currently offline Ray Joseph
Messages: 87
Registered: July 2009
Member
Nick Boldt wrote:Nick,

Thank your for the response. I am sorry I didn't include the Papyrus link:
http://www.papyrusuml.org/scripts/home/publigen/content/temp lates/show.asp?P=114&L=EN&SYNC=Y#1
Has the download links and addresses the RCP or update over an exixting
Eclipse but I don't know the architecture of Eclipse to know if I install
any of the below whether I can use the update or an additional Eclipse
module or what.

Yes, you showed the links to complete package downloads for OSEE and EPF
but I can't tell if these overlap (use something in common) or are they
totally separate installations. If I install them as separate
applications, am I duplicating things or does each installation look for
what is already installed and just add what is needed?

In all three cases, the installations address as if there are no other
Eclipse apps. Again, I can't tell if there will be any interferences.

How do I find out how to efficiently coordinate these installations?

Thanks,
Ray
_________________
> Copying to eclipse.papyrus, eclipse.technology.epf, and
> eclipse.technology.osee.

> Re: Papyrus

> Not sure where you found downloads for Papyrus -- I don't see any listed
> on either of these pages:

> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/?project=papyrus
> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/downloads/?project=papyr us

> Re: OSEE, they provide detailed install instructions on their website.

> http://www.eclipse.org/osee/documentation/installation/eclip se_install.php

> Re: EPF, did you read this?

> http://www.eclipse.org/epf/general/getting_started.php


> Ray Joseph wrote:
>> Please help me figure out how to use help in the Eclipse areas. I have
>> greatest interests in EPF, OSEE and Papyrus. The information here is
>> vast, I have had a difficult time trying to find simple details.
>> 1) For example, on the Eclipse download page there are many choices.
>> After reading the desciptions of each, I can't tell what I should
>> download. My intent is not to develop but to use.
>>
>> 2) For the Papyrus project, there is a RCP and a plug in. I have no
>> idea how to choose. What are the tradeoffs between the two
>> installations or is there a reason to use both?
>>
>> 3) For OSEE, it looks like there are packages that can be downloaded
>> but I can't tell which I should pick if I have downloaded some (?) from
>> above.
>>
>> I would appreciate any and all help.
>> Thanks
>> Ray
>>
Need help installing Papyrus, EPF, OSEE (was Re: General Help) [message #55189 is a reply to message #55162] Fri, 16 January 2009 21:58 Go to previous message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: nickboldt+eclipse+newsgroup.gmail.com

I suspect someone on the eclipse.papyrus, eclipse.technology.epf, and/or
eclipse.technology.osee newsgroups can be of assistance.

N

Ray Joseph wrote:
>
> Nick Boldt wrote:Nick,
>
> Thank your for the response. I am sorry I didn't include the Papyrus link:
> http://www.papyrusuml.org/scripts/home/publigen/content/temp lates/show.asp?P=114&L=EN&SYNC=Y#1
>
> Has the download links and addresses the RCP or update over an exixting
> Eclipse but I don't know the architecture of Eclipse to know if I
> install any of the below whether I can use the update or an additional
> Eclipse module or what.
>
> Yes, you showed the links to complete package downloads for OSEE and EPF
> but I can't tell if these overlap (use something in common) or are they
> totally separate installations. If I install them as separate
> applications, am I duplicating things or does each installation look for
> what is already installed and just add what is needed?
> In all three cases, the installations address as if there are no other
> Eclipse apps. Again, I can't tell if there will be any interferences.
> How do I find out how to efficiently coordinate these installations?
>
> Thanks,
> Ray
> _________________
>> Copying to eclipse.papyrus, eclipse.technology.epf, and
>> eclipse.technology.osee.
>
>> Re: Papyrus
>
>> Not sure where you found downloads for Papyrus -- I don't see any
>> listed on either of these pages:
>
>> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/?project=papyrus
>> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/downloads/?project=papyr us
>
>> Re: OSEE, they provide detailed install instructions on their website.
>
>> http://www.eclipse.org/osee/documentation/installation/eclip se_install.php
>>
>
>> Re: EPF, did you read this?
>
>> http://www.eclipse.org/epf/general/getting_started.php
>
>
>> Ray Joseph wrote:
>>> Please help me figure out how to use help in the Eclipse areas. I
>>> have greatest interests in EPF, OSEE and Papyrus. The information
>>> here is vast, I have had a difficult time trying to find simple
>>> details. 1) For example, on the Eclipse download page there are many
>>> choices. After reading the desciptions of each, I can't tell what I
>>> should download. My intent is not to develop but to use.
>>>
>>> 2) For the Papyrus project, there is a RCP and a plug in. I have no
>>> idea how to choose. What are the tradeoffs between the two
>>> installations or is there a reason to use both?
>>>
>>> 3) For OSEE, it looks like there are packages that can be downloaded
>>> but I can't tell which I should pick if I have downloaded some (?)
>>> from above.
>>>
>>> I would appreciate any and all help. Thanks
>>> Ray
>>>
>
>
>

--
Nick Boldt :: http://wiki.eclipse.org/User:Nickb
Re: General Help [message #591166 is a reply to message #55135] Fri, 16 January 2009 21:37 Go to previous message
Ray Joseph is currently offline Ray Joseph
Messages: 87
Registered: July 2009
Member
Nick Boldt wrote:Nick,

Thank your for the response. I am sorry I didn't include the Papyrus link:
http://www.papyrusuml.org/scripts/home/publigen/content/temp lates/show.asp?P=114&L=EN&SYNC=Y#1
Has the download links and addresses the RCP or update over an exixting
Eclipse but I don't know the architecture of Eclipse to know if I install
any of the below whether I can use the update or an additional Eclipse
module or what.

Yes, you showed the links to complete package downloads for OSEE and EPF
but I can't tell if these overlap (use something in common) or are they
totally separate installations. If I install them as separate
applications, am I duplicating things or does each installation look for
what is already installed and just add what is needed?

In all three cases, the installations address as if there are no other
Eclipse apps. Again, I can't tell if there will be any interferences.

How do I find out how to efficiently coordinate these installations?

Thanks,
Ray
_________________
> Copying to eclipse.papyrus, eclipse.technology.epf, and
> eclipse.technology.osee.

> Re: Papyrus

> Not sure where you found downloads for Papyrus -- I don't see any listed
> on either of these pages:

> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/?project=papyrus
> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/downloads/?project=papyr us

> Re: OSEE, they provide detailed install instructions on their website.

> http://www.eclipse.org/osee/documentation/installation/eclip se_install.php

> Re: EPF, did you read this?

> http://www.eclipse.org/epf/general/getting_started.php


> Ray Joseph wrote:
>> Please help me figure out how to use help in the Eclipse areas. I have
>> greatest interests in EPF, OSEE and Papyrus. The information here is
>> vast, I have had a difficult time trying to find simple details.
>> 1) For example, on the Eclipse download page there are many choices.
>> After reading the desciptions of each, I can't tell what I should
>> download. My intent is not to develop but to use.
>>
>> 2) For the Papyrus project, there is a RCP and a plug in. I have no
>> idea how to choose. What are the tradeoffs between the two
>> installations or is there a reason to use both?
>>
>> 3) For OSEE, it looks like there are packages that can be downloaded
>> but I can't tell which I should pick if I have downloaded some (?) from
>> above.
>>
>> I would appreciate any and all help.
>> Thanks
>> Ray
>>
Need help installing Papyrus, EPF, OSEE (was Re: General Help) [message #591184 is a reply to message #55162] Fri, 16 January 2009 21:58 Go to previous message
Nick Boldt is currently offline Nick Boldt
Messages: 480
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
I suspect someone on the eclipse.papyrus, eclipse.technology.epf, and/or
eclipse.technology.osee newsgroups can be of assistance.

N

Ray Joseph wrote:
>
> Nick Boldt wrote:Nick,
>
> Thank your for the response. I am sorry I didn't include the Papyrus link:
> http://www.papyrusuml.org/scripts/home/publigen/content/temp lates/show.asp?P=114&L=EN&SYNC=Y#1
>
> Has the download links and addresses the RCP or update over an exixting
> Eclipse but I don't know the architecture of Eclipse to know if I
> install any of the below whether I can use the update or an additional
> Eclipse module or what.
>
> Yes, you showed the links to complete package downloads for OSEE and EPF
> but I can't tell if these overlap (use something in common) or are they
> totally separate installations. If I install them as separate
> applications, am I duplicating things or does each installation look for
> what is already installed and just add what is needed?
> In all three cases, the installations address as if there are no other
> Eclipse apps. Again, I can't tell if there will be any interferences.
> How do I find out how to efficiently coordinate these installations?
>
> Thanks,
> Ray
> _________________
>> Copying to eclipse.papyrus, eclipse.technology.epf, and
>> eclipse.technology.osee.
>
>> Re: Papyrus
>
>> Not sure where you found downloads for Papyrus -- I don't see any
>> listed on either of these pages:
>
>> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/?project=papyrus
>> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/downloads/?project=papyr us
>
>> Re: OSEE, they provide detailed install instructions on their website.
>
>> http://www.eclipse.org/osee/documentation/installation/eclip se_install.php
>>
>
>> Re: EPF, did you read this?
>
>> http://www.eclipse.org/epf/general/getting_started.php
>
>
>> Ray Joseph wrote:
>>> Please help me figure out how to use help in the Eclipse areas. I
>>> have greatest interests in EPF, OSEE and Papyrus. The information
>>> here is vast, I have had a difficult time trying to find simple
>>> details. 1) For example, on the Eclipse download page there are many
>>> choices. After reading the desciptions of each, I can't tell what I
>>> should download. My intent is not to develop but to use.
>>>
>>> 2) For the Papyrus project, there is a RCP and a plug in. I have no
>>> idea how to choose. What are the tradeoffs between the two
>>> installations or is there a reason to use both?
>>>
>>> 3) For OSEE, it looks like there are packages that can be downloaded
>>> but I can't tell which I should pick if I have downloaded some (?)
>>> from above.
>>>
>>> I would appreciate any and all help. Thanks
>>> Ray
>>>
>
>
>

--
Nick Boldt :: http://wiki.eclipse.org/User:Nickb
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