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icon9.gif  Standalone help -- necessary download unavailable [message #543836] Wed, 30 June 2010 17:37 Go to next message
Tony E. is currently offline Tony E.
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I would be interested in creating a standalone help system, so I looked at the instructions available here:

http://help.eclipse.org/help33/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse. platform.doc.isv/guide/ua_help_setup_standalone.htm

Unfortunately I can't even get started, as the necessary download mentioned in the page, "eclipse Platform Runtime Binary driver", is not available at all from the eclipse download site.

Has this been replaced by something else?
Re: Standalone help -- necessary download unavailable [message #545706 is a reply to message #543836] Thu, 08 July 2010 17:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Goldthorpe is currently offline Chris Goldthorpe
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The Platform Runtime Binary still exists on the downloads page, for example on this page for the latest I-Build.

http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/I2010070 6-0800/
Re: Standalone help -- necessary download unavailable [message #545717 is a reply to message #543836] Thu, 08 July 2010 18:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tony E. is currently offline Tony E.
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Is there a list of drops available somewhere? The latest one doesn't seem to have working Windows x86 binaries.
Re: Standalone help -- necessary download unavailable [message #547854 is a reply to message #545717] Mon, 19 July 2010 20:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You can find all of the builds at http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/ , and you can see the test results for each build. With the occasional exception the tests have all been passing on the Windows build for some time.

When you say Windows x86 do you mean the 32 bit version.?There are two builds for Windows, the one named "Windows" is 32 bit and the one named x86_64 is 64 bit.

Re: Standalone help -- necessary download unavailable [message #548422 is a reply to message #543836] Wed, 21 July 2010 18:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for the information. I did indeed mean 32-bit Windows.

[content removed] The link in my first post was to an older version of help, I have found a way to launch the help system.

The thing is, I'm trying to use Eclipse as an online help system for a web application that's usually deployed with its own Jetty instance. I'm having a rather frustrating time determining if it's even possible to do that...

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Re: Standalone help -- necessary download unavailable [message #548731 is a reply to message #548422] Thu, 22 July 2010 18:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Goldthorpe is currently offline Chris Goldthorpe
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Tony E. wrote on Wed, 21 July 2010 14:36
Thanks for the information. I did indeed mean 32-bit Windows.

[content removed] The link in my first post was to an older version of help, I have found a way to launch the help system.

The thing is, I'm trying to use Eclipse as an online help system for a web application that's usually deployed with its own Jetty instance. I'm having a rather frustrating time determining if it's even possible to do that...


Is this an Eclipse application which already uses the Equinox extensions to launch a Jetty Web server? If so you can launch the help server on another port.
Re: Standalone help -- necessary download unavailable [message #548735 is a reply to message #543836] Thu, 22 July 2010 18:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No, it's a "pure" J2EE app usually deployed in Jetty, but also supported for deployment on a range of other app servers (Websphere, jboss, tomcat, etc.).

My initial idea would be to deploy the help as an application alongside the Java application on an alternate port. However to do that I think I would probably have to package some of the help-specific JARs in a WAR file. As eclipse help now uses Jetty this looks like it should be pretty straightforward... should Rolling Eyes

I probably need to read up on Eclipse Help (and the way it's structured) more before that plan can be realized, however...
Re: Standalone help -- necessary download unavailable [message #549499 is a reply to message #548735] Mon, 26 July 2010 21:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Search for "war" in the Eclipse help system and you will find directions for creating a war file which runs the help system.
icon14.gif  Re: Standalone help -- necessary download unavailable [message #549504 is a reply to message #543836] Mon, 26 July 2010 22:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for the pointer!
Re: Standalone help -- necessary download unavailable [message #550570 is a reply to message #543836] Fri, 30 July 2010 20:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The instructions don't appear to work Sad I'm using 3.6 and following these instructions:

http://help.eclipse.org/helios/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse. platform.doc.isv/guide/ua_help_war.htm

I've followed everything to the letter, but when I try and deploy the help application I get a message right away that the server can't find the org.eclipse.equinox.servletbridge framework, even though the jar file is in help/WEB-INF/lib, as per the instructions. At this point I'm starting to think that there's an additional instruction missing.

I'm using a plain-vanilla Jetty 7.1.6 for deployment.
Re: Standalone help -- necessary download unavailable [message #550577 is a reply to message #543836] Fri, 30 July 2010 21:24 Go to previous message
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Adding the Equinox (OSGI) framework .jar to the plugins directory of the webapp helps somewhat (no java exception at startup) but there seems to be yet something else still missing as I only get 404s trying to access the help system.
Re: Standalone help -- necessary download unavailable [message #624230 is a reply to message #545717] Mon, 19 July 2010 20:34 Go to previous message
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You can find all of the builds at http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/ , and you can see the test results for each build. With the occasional exception the tests have all been passing on the Windows build for some time.

When you say Windows x86 do you mean the 32 bit version.?There are two builds for Windows, the one named "Windows" is 32 bit and the one named x86_64 is 64 bit.
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