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org.eclipse.platform.ide vs. org.eclipse.platform.sdk vs. org.eclipse.sdk.ide [message #542628] Fri, 25 June 2010 13:40 Go to next message
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Hello,

i'm using the p2 agent (equinox-p2-agent-3.6-win32.zip) and under the "The Eclipse Project Updates" metadata repository (having the address "http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/updates/3.6") i see:

- org.eclipse.platform.ide
- org.eclipse.platform.sdk
- org.eclipse.sdk.ide.

What is the difference between them? Where could i find some doc to clear out all these terms and guide a user in his choises?
Re: org.eclipse.platform.ide vs. org.eclipse.platform.sdk vs. org.eclipse.sdk.ide [message #542661 is a reply to message #542628] Fri, 25 June 2010 14:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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vlad.balan wrote:
> - org.eclipse.platform.ide
> - org.eclipse.platform.sdk

Users typically use Help>Install new software, so they care about the
names, not the IDs.

org.eclipse.sdk.ide is the eclipse product IU, named Eclipse SDK in the
p2 repo. ah, Eclipse Project SDK is the main SDK feature, without the
product.

Usually to pick up 3.6, you would download either the 3.6 Eclipse
Classic or one of the EPP pre-packaged versions.

What would you like to get out of the Update site?

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Re: org.eclipse.platform.ide vs. org.eclipse.platform.sdk vs. org.eclipse.sdk.ide [message #542694 is a reply to message #542661] Fri, 25 June 2010 16:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for the reply.

What about

- org.eclipse.platform.ide
- org.eclipse.platform.sdk

What do these IU correspond to?

OK for "org.eclipse.sdk.ide is the eclipse product IU, named Eclipse SDK in the
p2 repo" - By the way, what do you mean by "the p2 repo" ?
I'm lookin in the "Equinox provisionning" ( aka "P2 Admin UI", aka, "Equinox Agent" ) in the "The Eclipse Project Updates" tab.

"3.6 Eclipse Classic " - i don't see this IU. What's its IU and metadata repository to be able to find it in the agent.
And before all to what it corresponds: 1. platform, 2.platform sdk or 3.sdk ?


I have Ganymede 3.4.2. I want to upgrade to wtp 3.2 which also requires Eclipse 3.6.

Is this possible through "Help>Install new software" as you suggest? Pls tell me the right URLs and Software Labels to choose.

Any way, as a test, i would like to do it through the agent, not through any pre-packaged like "Helios for Java EE developers"

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vlad.balan wrote:
>
>
> I have Ganymede 3.4.2. I want :
> - eclipse 3.6
> - wtp 3.2
> Is this possible through "Help>Install new software" as you suggest?

I don't believe so. I can upgrade 3.5.2 (Galileo) to 3.6 but I'd be
surprised if you could go from 3.4.2.

Your best bet is to download from Helios: either the Eclipse SDK and
then install WTP, or get one of the pre-packaged JEE downloads which
includes JDT and WTP (but not PDE for plugin development)

PW

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Re: org.eclipse.platform.ide vs. org.eclipse.platform.sdk vs. org.eclipse.sdk.ide [message #542713 is a reply to message #542708] Fri, 25 June 2010 16:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you very much. I would really need an answer to my last questions. I know there's a lot of them Smile

Thank you a lot in advance !


A)

- org.eclipse.platform.ide
- org.eclipse.platform.sdk

What do these IU correspond to?


B)
OK for "org.eclipse.sdk.ide is the eclipse product IU, named Eclipse SDK in the
p2 repo" - By the way, what do you mean by "the p2 repo" ?
I'm lookin in the "Equinox provisionning" ( aka "P2 Admin UI", aka, "Equinox Agent" ) in the "The Eclipse Project Updates" tab.


C)
"3.6 Eclipse Classic " - i don't see this IU. What's its IU and metadata repository to be able to find it in the agent.
And before all to what it corresponds: 1. platform, 2.platform sdk or 3.sdk ?

D)
Any way, as a test, i would like to do it through the agent, not through any pre-packaged like "Helios for Java EE developers"
Re: org.eclipse.platform.ide vs. org.eclipse.platform.sdk vs. org.eclipse.sdk.ide [message #542732 is a reply to message #542713] Fri, 25 June 2010 18:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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org.eclipse.platform.ide is a product that includes the org.eclipse.platform
feature and the org.eclipse.equinox.p2.user.ui feature. It is the
"Platform Runtime Binary" on the Eclipse Project download page [1].

org.eclipse.platform.sdk is the same as org.eclipse.platform.ide but also
contains the org.eclipse.platform.source feature. (platform.source
includes p2.user.ui.source). This is the "Platform SDK" on the eclipse
project download page [1].

"Eclipse Classic" == org.eclipse.sdk.ide. See "Eclipse Classic 3.6.0" on
the main eclipse download page [2] . This is the same as "Eclipse SDK" on
the eclipse project page [1].

[1]
http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.6-20 1006080911/index.php
[2] http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/


vlad.balan wrote:

> Thank you very much. I would really need an answer to my last questions. I
> know there's a lot of them :)
>
> Thank you a lot in advance !
>
>
> A)
>
> - org.eclipse.platform.ide
> - org.eclipse.platform.sdk
>
> What do these IU correspond to?
>
>
> B)
> OK for "org.eclipse.sdk.ide is the eclipse product IU, named Eclipse SDK
> in the p2 repo" - By the way, what do you mean by "the p2 repo" ?
> I'm lookin in the "Equinox provisionning" ( aka "P2 Admin UI", aka,
> "Equinox Agent" ) in the "The Eclipse Project Updates" tab.
>
>
> C)
> "3.6 Eclipse Classic " - i don't see this IU. What's its IU and metadata
> repository to be able to find it in the agent. And before all to what it
> corresponds: 1. platform, 2.platform sdk or 3.sdk ?
>
> D)
> Any way, as a test, i would like to do it through the agent, not through
> any pre-packaged like "Helios for Java EE developers"
Re: org.eclipse.platform.ide vs. org.eclipse.platform.sdk vs. org.eclipse.sdk.ide [message #542736 is a reply to message #542732] Fri, 25 June 2010 18:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OK. Thanks a lot.

For point D, what precise IUs should i chose in the Admin UI Agent to end up with Eclipse 3.6 + WTP 3.2. As i said i want to use the agent to do a fresh install.

I have 2 default metadata repos:
- one called Helios: http://download.eclipse.org/releases/helios
Apparanetly contains EPPs only.

- on called The Eclipse Project Updates:
http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/updates/3.6
From here i could get Eclipse 3.6 i guess -but what IUs to take? Why Eclipse SDK and not Eclise Platform?


In fact i don't see WTP 3.2 as a plugin in these repose. What repo URL should i add?


And lastly for point B, you said "org.eclipse.sdk.ide is the eclipse product IU, named Eclipse SDK
> in the p2 repo". What p2 repo were you referencing?



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Re: org.eclipse.platform.ide vs. org.eclipse.platform.sdk vs. org.eclipse.sdk.ide [message #542903 is a reply to message #542736] Sun, 27 June 2010 11:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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vlad.balan wrote:
> OK. Thanks a lot.
>
> For point D, what precise IUs should i chose in the Admin UI Agent to
> end up with Eclipse 3.6 + WTP 3.2. As i said i want to use the agent to
> do a fresh install.
>
> I have 2 default metadata repos:
> - one called Helios: http://download.eclipse.org/releases/helios
> Apparanetly contains EPPs only.
>
> - on called The Eclipse Project Updates:
> http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/updates/3.6
> From here i could get Eclipse 3.6 i guess -but what IUs to take?

org.eclipse.sdk.ide - installing the product IU should create a complete
3.6 eclipse classic for the parameters you specify.

http://download.eclipse.org/releases/helios is a p2 repo - it contains
all of WTP that you want to install.
http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/updates/3.6 contains all of 3.6 you
need to install.

To use the director to install WTP - you're going to have to find the
WTP main features. Either get a WTP EPP and look at the feature IDs or
ask on the webtools group.

PW

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Ex, i can create my eclipse install (which includes the releng tools)
from my basebuilder:

basebuilder/eclipse -application org.eclipse.equinox.p2.director \
-nosplash -consoleLog -flavor tooling \
-p2.os linux -p2.ws gtk -p2.arch x86 -roaming \
-profile SDKProfile \
-repository http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/updates/3.6 \
-destination /path/to/new/eclipse \
-profileProperties org.eclipse.update.install.features=true \
-installIUs org.eclipse.sdk.ide,org.eclipse.releng.tools.feature.group

You just need to find out what the WTP feature(s) are.

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Re: org.eclipse.platform.ide vs. org.eclipse.platform.sdk vs. org.eclipse.sdk.ide [message #542914 is a reply to message #542904] Sun, 27 June 2010 12:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Paul. So i must find out the WTP IUs to install.

Earlier you said
"org.eclipse.platform.ide is a product that includes the org.eclipse.platform
feature and the org.eclipse.equinox.p2.user.ui feature"

First of all, i didn't know that a IU "includes" other IUs.

Secondly how did you manage to figure this out? That IU "x" includes IUs "y" and "z".

Knowing your source of information can be helpful in orienting through these IUs.

And lastly, concerning my furture install plan, why choose *.eclipse.sdk and not *.platform.ide? Isn't platform.ide enough? I think yes.

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vlad.balan wrote:

> First of all, i didn't know that a IU "includes" other IUs.

IUs require or depend on other IUs. It's not technically "contain". IU
(Installable Unit) is the general p2 container. p2/PDE Build generate
IUs for plugins, for features, for products, etc. Users generally deal
with installing features into a product (like org.eclipse.sdk.ide, which
is the Eclipse Classic SDK product). If an IU requires another IU,
installing the first will install the second.

>
> Secondly how did you manage to figure this out? That IU "x" includes IUs
> "y" and "z".

You have to look :-) You can either trace it through the features
themselves, or by reading the XML for the p2 metadata repository.

>
> Knowing your source of information can be helpful in orienting through
> these IUs.

There's no document that lays these out (at least not really) because
these are not for user consumption. Only hardcore developer/builders
and release engineers. You have to 1) ask around (which you are :-) and
2) look at the features that exist in an EPP, or search through the
metadata repo XML, etc.

> And lastly why *.eclipse.sdk and not *.platform.ide? Isn't platform.ide
> enough? I think yes.

What are you trying to do? If you want to create an eclipse that you
can run, you need org.eclipse.sdk.ide, the product. If you are trying
to build target platforms that you can compile against, then you would
need something like org.eclipse.platform.feature.group (no JDT, no PDE,
and no source bundles) or org.eclipse.sdk.feature.group (everything,
plus all the source bundles), the features.

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PW

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1) As i said i want an eclipse to do Java EE dev. So i thought that "platform.ide" should suffice as "the base" Eclipse.

Because i don't need neither the sources nor the PDE. (By the way, when you say "sources" you say sources of Eclipse, JDT, PDE and Equinox, right?)

It is true, i see now, that platform.ide does not include JDT, so the only option is "eclipse.sdk". This is the reason, right?

2) It is weird that, if you need JDT, you have to end up with PDT, Equinox and eclipse sources just because eclipse.sdk is the only product that contains JDT .

3) coming back to WTP 3.2 i need as you said to find out the IUs and, before that, the correct URLs of the repositories.

And here i find out 3 possible repositories.

The WTP project site ( http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project_summary.php?projecti d=webtools) mentions URL1 = http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/updates/.


The WTP 3.2 relase's site (http://eclipse.org/webtools/releases/3.2.0/) mentions "the Helios update site" URL2 = http://download.eclipse.org/releases/helios/

The WTP 3.2 versions download site (http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/) mentions "our software repository site" URL3 = http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/repository/helios/

And also there are the "P2 repositories in zipped format files" here : http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R3.2.0/ R-3.2.0-20100615235519/

Which one to choose?


4) Last but important, how come that none of these URLs are visible by the Update Manager of my Ganymede 3.4.2.
Is it the update manager software that is outdated and does not recongnize new formats of repositories or it is not outdated but it does a compatibility check and it sees ththat the *content* of such repositories are not indeed compatible with eclipse 3.4.2

Thank you.
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vlad.balan wrote:
> 1) As i said i want an eclipse to do Java EE dev. So i thought that
>
> It is true, i see now, that platform.ide does not include JDT, so the
> only option is "eclipse.sdk". This is the reason, right?

org.eclipse.sdk.ide is the only product in .../eclipse/updates/3.6 and
you need a product to generate the launchers. You can create a product
that only includes JDT, Platform/Equinox (which is what the EPP guys do)
but we don't ship one in Eclipse Classic (because we provide
PDE/JDT/Platform/Equinox).

>
> 2) It is weird that, if you need JDT, you have to end up with PDT,
> Equinox and eclipse sources just because eclipse.sdk is the only product
> that contains JDT .

PDE, not PDT :-) as I said, you can create your own products ... if you
are trying to assemble something that's not eclipse classic and not a
pre-packaged EPP, then you are a release engineer and you'll have to do
it the long way.

>
> 3) coming back to WTP 3.2 i need as you said to find out the IUs and,
> before that, the correct URLs of the repositories.
>
> Which one to choose?

Helios WTP can be installed from
http://download.eclipse.org/releases/helios/


> 4) Last but important, how come that none of these URLs are visible by
> the Update Manager of my Ganymede 3.4.2. Is it the update manager
> software that is outdated and does not recongnize new formats of
> repositories or it is not outdated but it does a compatibility check and
> it sees ththat the *content* of such repositories are not indeed
> compatible with eclipse 3.4.2

3.4.2 was the first release that includes p2. You can update from 3.5
to 3.6, but with 3.4.2 not so much (their have been mixed reports of
successes and failures).

I thought you were getting some kind of p2 based installer agent that
you wanted to use to create a helios based WTP+Eclipse Classic ... make
sure you get the 3.6 based one.

PW


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2) "org.eclipse.sdk.ide is the only product in .../eclipse/updates/3.6".

Well there is "platform.ide" and "platform.sdk" also. These are products too.

And coming back to what i said:

It is true, i see now, that platform.ide does not include JDT, so the only option is "eclipse.sdk". This is the reason, right?

The reason that, if you want to use the p2 agent to construct your eclipse when JDT is needed, eclipse.sdk.ide is the only option.

4) That's right. I have the Admin UI Agent and want to produce an equivalent of the EPP for Java EE developers.

But the question related to Ganymede 3.4.2 seeing those 3 URLs as empty was a side question to know why Ganymede's Update Manager won't see the content of those URLs.
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vlad.balan wrote:
> 2) "org.eclipse.sdk.ide is the only product in .../eclipse/updates/3.6".
> Well there is "platform.ide" and "platform.sdk" also. These are products
> too.

Sorry, org.eclipse.platform.ide is also a product (I missed that one)
.... but org.eclipse.platform.sdk is not.

You could install org.eclipse.platform.ide (which generates the launcher
artifacts) and then install the master JDT feature,
org.eclipse.jdt.feature.group ... presuming that's what you want (you'd
have to install the cvs feature if you wanted those tools as well).

>
> 4) That's right. I have the Admin UI Agent and want to produce an
> equivalent of the EPP for Java EE developers.
> But the question related to Ganymede 3.4.2 seeing those 3 URLs as empty
> was a side question to know why Ganymede's Update Manager won't see the
> content of those URLs.

Ah, OK. Yes, amongst other things 3.4.x can't see composite repos ...
and they are used from 3.5.x onwards.

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2) OK, thank you.

4) Yes it does - ganymede sees repositories. But those related to his version. Like

eclipse.org/updates/3.4 or eclipse.org/releases/ganymede.

But not those related to 3.6 as those i mentioned.

Is this a general behaviour of eclipse. I mean, is eclipse 3.5 seeing 3.6 repos and will 3.6 see those of 3.7, etc.?

I presume it is feature of the update manager to not see the components in repositories related to a superior version.

Is it always true?

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vlad.balan wrote:
> Is this a general behaviour of eclipse. I mean, is eclipse 3.5 seeing
> 3.6 repos and will 3.6 see those of 3.7, etc.?

They don't come pre-defined with the next-release repo. But I've
upgraded from 3.5 to 3.6, so 3.5 can read the
http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/updates/3.6 repo.

> I presume it is feature of the update manager to not see the components
> in repositories related a superior version.

With 3.5 I believe the basic shape of the p2 repo became stabilized.
The hope is that 3.6 will be able to update to
http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/updates/3.7 (when it becomes available).

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Thanks Paul for keeping up on this forum. It is very useful to me.

4) OK

2) You said 2 contradictory things, maybe i'm wrong:


a) "Sorry, org.eclipse.platform.ide is also a product (I missed that one)
.... but org.eclipse.platform.sdk is not."

b) "org.eclipse.platform.sdk is the same as org.eclipse.platform.ide but also
contains the org.eclipse.platform.source feature. (platform.source
includes p2.user.ui.source). "


A new question:

5) suppose i download the "java ee" EPP. Where should i look exactly (like an inventory place) to identify what IUs i have to install with the Agent to mimic it.

Unitll now, i can see i need:
- platfom.ide
-jdt.feature - btw - this lies in what repo?
- cvs.feature - btw - this lies in what repo?
- wtp 3.2

and i presume i should recongnize all these in this "inventory" place in the dowloaded EPP.

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vlad.balan wrote:
> Thanks Paul for keeping up on this forum. It is very useful to me.
>
> a) "Sorry, org.eclipse.platform.ide is also a product (I missed that
> one) ... but org.eclipse.platform.sdk is not."
>
> b) "org.eclipse.platform.sdk is the same as org.eclipse.platform.ide but
> also
> contains the org.eclipse.platform.source feature. (platform.source
> includes p2.user.ui.source). "

OK, then ignore org.eclipse.platform.sdk ... maybe I made it up. The
eclipse classic comes with 2 products that I was able to install,
org.eclipse.sdk.ide and org.eclipse.platform.ide


> A new question:
> 5) suppose i download the "java ee" EPP. Where should i look exactly
> (like an inventory place) to identify what IUs i have to install with
> the Agent to mimic it.

Help>About ... then use Installation Details and Installed Software.
That lists the top level IUs that are installed.

eclipse (CVS,JDT,PDE,P2,Equinox,Platform,etc) are all in
http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/updates/3.6/

WTP is in http://download.eclipse.org/releases/helios/


PW



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Paul Webster
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Platform_Command_Framework
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Command_Core_Expressions
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Menu_Contributions
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Menus_Extension_Mapping
http://help.eclipse.org/galileo/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse .platform.doc.isv/guide/workbench.htm


Re: org.eclipse.platform.ide vs. org.eclipse.platform.sdk vs. org.eclipse.sdk.ide [message #542949 is a reply to message #542948] Sun, 27 June 2010 20:27 Go to previous message
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4) You didn"t make i up. org.eclipse.platform.sdk exists OK. I was asking about it at the very beginning and i can see it in the list of eclipse platfom 's available software.
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