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Graphiti Creation Review Successful [message #530029] Wed, 28 April 2010 04:42 Go to next message
Michael Wenz is currently offline Michael Wenz
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Hi all,

this is just a quick note to let you know that the Graphiti project has successfully passed its creation review!

Just let me know if you have questions, comments or would like to be kept in the loop for further news on Graphiti.

Cheers,
Michael
Re: Graphiti Creation Review Successful [message #532526 is a reply to message #530029] Mon, 10 May 2010 07:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jens Otto is currently offline Jens Otto
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Hi,

I would like to be kept in the loop for further news on Graphiti.

Do you know a release date? Or is it possible to get a preview version of Graphiti? (:


Cheers,

Jens
Re: Graphiti Creation Review Successful [message #532541 is a reply to message #532526] Mon, 10 May 2010 08:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael Wenz is currently offline Michael Wenz
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Hi Jens,

great to hear about that! I add you to our list of interested parties and
keep you in the loop with news.

Cheers,
Michael


"Jens Otto" <jens.otto@uni-bielefeld.de> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I would like to be kept in the loop for further news on Graphiti.
>
> Do you know a release date? Or is it possible to get a preview version of
> Graphiti? (:
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jens
icon14.gif  Re: Graphiti Creation Review Successful [message #533711 is a reply to message #532541] Sat, 15 May 2010 15:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Stefan Oehme is currently offline Stefan Oehme
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Hi Michael,

today I read the proposal page with great interest. I am currently working on my student research project and if I understood the proposal correctly, Graphiti may be very helpful.

I want to build model editors for participatory scenarios, where developers and customers work on a model together. This of course rules out the use of mouse and keyboard (as only one person can be in touch with the model with these tools)
So what I came up with is the use of multitouch input, in order to resemble more traditional approaches like putting cards on a table.
I already have a framework which you could call the "multitouch equivalent of Draw2D". But apart from that, I would have to build everything from scratch, which is of course impossible for a single person.

So, finally to my question: What exactly does Graphiti offer me if I do not want to use GEF and Draw2D? Or in other words: How big is the "Interaction Component" and how much effort would it take to switch it out with a multitouch enabled component?

Thanks in advance! Smile
Re: Graphiti Creation Review Successful [message #533810 is a reply to message #533711] Mon, 17 May 2010 03:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael Wenz is currently offline Michael Wenz
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Hi,

this should in principle be possible, nevertheless it's of course not a
standard usecase. We should definitly get in direct contact to clarify
details.

Thanks,
Michael


"sapereaude" <bg_freak@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Hi Michael,
>
> today I read the proposal page with great interest. I am currently working
> on my student research project and if I understood the proposal correctly,
> Graphiti may be very helpful.
> I want to build model editors for participatory scenarios, where
> developers and customers work on a model together. This of course rules
> out the use of mouse and keyboard (as only one person can be in touch with
> the model with these tools)
> So what I came up with is the use of multitouch input, in order to
> resemble more traditional approaches like putting cards on a table. I
> already have a framework which you could call the "multitouch equivalent
> of Draw2D". But apart from that, I would have to build everything from
> scratch, which is of course impossible for a single person.
>
> So, finally to my question: What exactly does Graphiti offer me if I do
> not want to use GEF and Draw2D? Or in other words: How big is the
> "Interaction Component" and how much effort would it take to switch it out
> with a multitouch enabled component?
>
> Thanks in advance! :)
Re: Graphiti Creation Review Successful [message #534819 is a reply to message #530029] Thu, 20 May 2010 09:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
h1055071 is currently offline h1055071
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I would like to be kept in the loop. Can we download it now?

We develop Eclipse-based RCP tools for the Higher Education sector in the UK. We've just built a proof-of-concept graphical editor for the Archimate language using EMF for the editor model and plain GEF for the UI. EMF was great to use. GEF not so good, for various reasons. We don't want to go down the generative path for the GUI, though the way that EMF generates the model is fine. (We love EMF! Well supported and documented.)

Could you make this using Graphiti? - http://archi.cetis.ac.uk/

The tool as it stands is OK but needs to be moved into a better UI framework. I don't like GMF. Graphiti sounds more suited for our needs.

Phil Beauvoir
Re: Graphiti Creation Review Successful [message #534859 is a reply to message #534819] Thu, 20 May 2010 09:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael Wenz is currently offline Michael Wenz
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Hi Phil,

great to hear about that!

I added you to our list of interested parties and will contact you with any
news we have.

Regards,
Michael


"Phillip Beauvoir" <p.beauvoir@dadabeatnik.com> wrote in message
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>I would like to be kept in the loop. Can we download it now?
>
> We develop Eclipse-based RCP tools for the Higher Education sector in the
> UK. We've just built a proof-of-concept graphical editor for the Archimate
> language using EMF for the editor model and plain GEF for the UI. EMF was
> great to use. GEF not so good, for various reasons. We don't want to go
> down the generative path for the GUI, though the way that EMF generates
> the model is fine. (We love EMF! Well supported and documented.)
>
> Could you make this using Graphiti? - http://archi.cetis.ac.uk/
>
> The tool as it stands is OK but needs to be moved into a better UI
> framework. I don't like GMF. Graphiti sounds more suited for our needs.
>
> Phil Beauvoir
>
Re: Graphiti Creation Review Successful [message #538267 is a reply to message #530029] Mon, 07 June 2010 03:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Christoph Kulla is currently offline Christoph Kulla
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Hi Michael,

I would like to be kept in the loop too. I'm interested in ways to automatically visualize emf models. Looking forward to hear from you.

Regards

Christoph
Re: Graphiti Creation Review Successful [message #538270 is a reply to message #538267] Mon, 07 June 2010 03:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael Wenz is currently offline Michael Wenz
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Hi Christoph,

great to hear about your interest in Graphiti, I added you to our list. Welcome!

Regards,
Michael
Re: Graphiti Creation Review Successful [message #538383 is a reply to message #533711] Mon, 07 June 2010 09:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Enrico Schnepel is currently offline Enrico Schnepel
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You man want to have a look at the dawn project which offers collaborative
functions to GMF based editors and is currently integrated into CDO.

Regards

Enrico

"sapereaude" <bg_freak@gmx.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:hsmuei$spa$1@build.eclipse.org...
> Hi Michael,
>
> today I read the proposal page with great interest. I am currently working
> on my student research project and if I understood the proposal correctly,
> Graphiti may be very helpful.
> I want to build model editors for participatory scenarios, where
> developers and customers work on a model together. This of course rules
> out the use of mouse and keyboard (as only one person can be in touch with
> the model with these tools)
> So what I came up with is the use of multitouch input, in order to
> resemble more traditional approaches like putting cards on a table. I
> already have a framework which you could call the "multitouch equivalent
> of Draw2D". But apart from that, I would have to build everything from
> scratch, which is of course impossible for a single person.
>
> So, finally to my question: What exactly does Graphiti offer me if I do
> not want to use GEF and Draw2D? Or in other words: How big is the
> "Interaction Component" and how much effort would it take to switch it out
> with a multitouch enabled component?
>
> Thanks in advance! :)
Re: Graphiti Creation Review Successful [message #539087 is a reply to message #530029] Wed, 09 June 2010 11:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jim Van Dam is currently offline Jim Van Dam
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Hi Michael,

Could you put me on the interested parties list?
We would like to integrate a visual editor into our toolset and are very
interested in the Graphiti approach.

Jim van Dam
HiPeS


Michael Wenz wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> this is just a quick note to let you know that the Graphiti project has
> successfully passed its creation review!
>
> Just let me know if you have questions, comments or would like to be
> kept in the loop for further news on Graphiti.
>
> Cheers,
> Michael
Re: Graphiti Creation Review Successful [message #539101 is a reply to message #538383] Wed, 09 June 2010 11:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Stefan Oehme is currently offline Stefan Oehme
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With collaborative I meant "several people sitting at the same table and interacting with a model together". Smile

Enrico Schnepel wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 09:40
You man want to have a look at the dawn project which offers collaborative
functions to GMF based editors and is currently integrated into CDO.

Regards

Enrico
Re: Graphiti Creation Review Successful [message #539236 is a reply to message #539087] Thu, 10 June 2010 02:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael Wenz is currently offline Michael Wenz
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Hi Jim,

great to hear about that. Welcome to our list!

Regards,
Michael


"Jim van Dam" <jim.van.dam@hipes.nl> wrote in message
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> Hi Michael,
>
> Could you put me on the interested parties list?
> We would like to integrate a visual editor into our toolset and are very
> interested in the Graphiti approach.
>
> Jim van Dam
> HiPeS
>
>
> Michael Wenz wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> this is just a quick note to let you know that the Graphiti project has
>> successfully passed its creation review!
>>
>> Just let me know if you have questions, comments or would like to be kept
>> in the loop for further news on Graphiti.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Michael
Re: Graphiti Creation Review Successful [message #549521 is a reply to message #530029] Tue, 27 July 2010 00:39 Go to previous message
Daniel Weber is currently offline Daniel Weber
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Member
Hi Michael,

I am yet another "interested party" :) We'd like to have a look at Graphiti and possibly use it to reimplement an old graphical editor.

Cheers,
Daniel

Michael Wenz wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> this is just a quick note to let you know that the Graphiti project has
> successfully passed its creation review!
>
> Just let me know if you have questions, comments or would like to be
> kept in the loop for further news on Graphiti.
>
> Cheers,
> Michael
Re: Graphiti Creation Review Successful [message #619563 is a reply to message #532541] Sat, 15 May 2010 15:59 Go to previous message
Stefan Oehme is currently offline Stefan Oehme
Messages: 9
Registered: April 2010
Junior Member
Hi Michael,

today I read the proposal page with great interest. I am currently working on my student research project and if I understood the proposal correctly, Graphiti may be very helpful.

I want to build model editors for participatory scenarios, where developers and customers work on a model together. This of course rules out the use of mouse and keyboard (as only one person can be in touch with the model with these tools)
So what I came up with is the use of multitouch input, in order to resemble more traditional approaches like putting cards on a table.
I already have a framework which you could call the "multitouch equivalent of Draw2D". But apart from that, I would have to build everything from scratch, which is of course impossible for a single person.

So, finally to my question: What exactly does Graphiti offer me if I do not want to use GEF and Draw2D? Or in other words: How big is the "Interaction Component" and how much effort would it take to switch it out with a multitouch enabled component?

Thanks in advance! :)
Re: Graphiti Creation Review Successful [message #619625 is a reply to message #619563] Mon, 17 May 2010 03:02 Go to previous message
Michael Wenz is currently offline Michael Wenz
Messages: 1571
Registered: July 2009
Location: Walldorf, Germany
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Hi,

this should in principle be possible, nevertheless it's of course not a
standard usecase. We should definitly get in direct contact to clarify
details.

Thanks,
Michael


"sapereaude" <bg_freak@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:hsmuei$spa$1@build.eclipse.org...
> Hi Michael,
>
> today I read the proposal page with great interest. I am currently working
> on my student research project and if I understood the proposal correctly,
> Graphiti may be very helpful.
> I want to build model editors for participatory scenarios, where
> developers and customers work on a model together. This of course rules
> out the use of mouse and keyboard (as only one person can be in touch with
> the model with these tools)
> So what I came up with is the use of multitouch input, in order to
> resemble more traditional approaches like putting cards on a table. I
> already have a framework which you could call the "multitouch equivalent
> of Draw2D". But apart from that, I would have to build everything from
> scratch, which is of course impossible for a single person.
>
> So, finally to my question: What exactly does Graphiti offer me if I do
> not want to use GEF and Draw2D? Or in other words: How big is the
> "Interaction Component" and how much effort would it take to switch it out
> with a multitouch enabled component?
>
> Thanks in advance! :)
Re: Graphiti Creation Review Successful [message #619633 is a reply to message #534819] Thu, 20 May 2010 09:43 Go to previous message
Michael Wenz is currently offline Michael Wenz
Messages: 1571
Registered: July 2009
Location: Walldorf, Germany
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Hi Phil,

great to hear about that!

I added you to our list of interested parties and will contact you with any
news we have.

Regards,
Michael


"Phillip Beauvoir" <p.beauvoir@dadabeatnik.com> wrote in message
news:ht3bol$rfb$1@build.eclipse.org...
>I would like to be kept in the loop. Can we download it now?
>
> We develop Eclipse-based RCP tools for the Higher Education sector in the
> UK. We've just built a proof-of-concept graphical editor for the Archimate
> language using EMF for the editor model and plain GEF for the UI. EMF was
> great to use. GEF not so good, for various reasons. We don't want to go
> down the generative path for the GUI, though the way that EMF generates
> the model is fine. (We love EMF! Well supported and documented.)
>
> Could you make this using Graphiti? - http://archi.cetis.ac.uk/
>
> The tool as it stands is OK but needs to be moved into a better UI
> framework. I don't like GMF. Graphiti sounds more suited for our needs.
>
> Phil Beauvoir
>
Re: Graphiti Creation Review Successful [message #619636 is a reply to message #619563] Mon, 07 June 2010 09:40 Go to previous message
Enrico Schnepel is currently offline Enrico Schnepel
Messages: 121
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
You man want to have a look at the dawn project which offers collaborative
functions to GMF based editors and is currently integrated into CDO.

Regards

Enrico

"sapereaude" <bg_freak@gmx.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:hsmuei$spa$1@build.eclipse.org...
> Hi Michael,
>
> today I read the proposal page with great interest. I am currently working
> on my student research project and if I understood the proposal correctly,
> Graphiti may be very helpful.
> I want to build model editors for participatory scenarios, where
> developers and customers work on a model together. This of course rules
> out the use of mouse and keyboard (as only one person can be in touch with
> the model with these tools)
> So what I came up with is the use of multitouch input, in order to
> resemble more traditional approaches like putting cards on a table. I
> already have a framework which you could call the "multitouch equivalent
> of Draw2D". But apart from that, I would have to build everything from
> scratch, which is of course impossible for a single person.
>
> So, finally to my question: What exactly does Graphiti offer me if I do
> not want to use GEF and Draw2D? Or in other words: How big is the
> "Interaction Component" and how much effort would it take to switch it out
> with a multitouch enabled component?
>
> Thanks in advance! :)
Re: Graphiti Creation Review Successful [message #619638 is a reply to message #538383] Wed, 09 June 2010 11:53 Go to previous message
Stefan Oehme is currently offline Stefan Oehme
Messages: 9
Registered: April 2010
Junior Member
With collaborative I meant "several people sitting at the same table and interacting with a model together". :)

Enrico Schnepel wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 09:40
> You man want to have a look at the dawn project which offers collaborative
> functions to GMF based editors and is currently integrated into CDO.
>
> Regards
>
> Enrico
Re: Graphiti Creation Review Successful [message #619639 is a reply to message #539087] Thu, 10 June 2010 02:34 Go to previous message
Michael Wenz is currently offline Michael Wenz
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Location: Walldorf, Germany
Senior Member
Hi Jim,

great to hear about that. Welcome to our list!

Regards,
Michael


"Jim van Dam" <jim.van.dam@hipes.nl> wrote in message
news:huobgl$8k1$1@build.eclipse.org...
> Hi Michael,
>
> Could you put me on the interested parties list?
> We would like to integrate a visual editor into our toolset and are very
> interested in the Graphiti approach.
>
> Jim van Dam
> HiPeS
>
>
> Michael Wenz wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> this is just a quick note to let you know that the Graphiti project has
>> successfully passed its creation review!
>>
>> Just let me know if you have questions, comments or would like to be kept
>> in the loop for further news on Graphiti.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Michael
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