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Default alignment of labels [message #526810] Tue, 13 April 2010 04:26 Go to next message
Ronald Pomeroy is currently offline Ronald Pomeroy
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Registered: July 2009
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Citing this study:

http://www.uxmatters.com/mt/archives/2006/07/label-placement -in-forms.php

Based the New and Noteworthy screenshots it appears e4 has chosen the
least effective form Label alignment strategy for form generation (I.E.
left aligned). Right alignment - would be a step in the "right"
direction and would make e4 a bit more polished.

Sorry to be so direct but I'm still amazed this layout faux paus still
happens so often.

Is it too late to be fixed before 1.0???

--
Thanks,

Ron
rpomeroy at me dot com
Re: Default alignment of labels [message #526823 is a reply to message #526810] Tue, 13 April 2010 07:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thomas Schindl is currently offline Thomas Schindl
Messages: 5419
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi,

You are talking about the Model Editor?

Am 13.04.10 06:26, schrieb Ronald Pomeroy:
> Citing this study:
>
> http://www.uxmatters.com/mt/archives/2006/07/label-placement -in-forms.php
>

Interesting.

> Based the New and Noteworthy screenshots it appears e4 has chosen the
> least effective form Label alignment strategy for form generation (I.E.
> left aligned). Right alignment - would be a step in the "right"
> direction and would make e4 a bit more polished.
>

Right align is not a problem to implement. I'm not sure about putting
the label above because we have much more horizonzal space than vertical
so making the user scroll is even worse I think.

> Sorry to be so direct but I'm still amazed this layout faux paus still
> happens so often.
>
> Is it too late to be fixed before 1.0???
>

No it's not too late and please file a bug and add me as a CC member

Tom
Re: Default alignment of labels [message #527092 is a reply to message #526823] Wed, 14 April 2010 03:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ronald Pomeroy is currently offline Ronald Pomeroy
Messages: 19
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Yep.

The M5 New and Noteworthy

http://download.eclipse.org/e4/downloads/drops/S-1.0M5-20100 4111600/e4-news-M5.html

At

least it's consistently wrong :-) Tells me it should be easier to remedy.

Regards,

Ron


On 2010-04-13 00:09:21 -0700, Tom Schindl said:

> Hi,
>
> You are talking about the Model Editor?
>
> Am 13.04.10 06:26, schrieb Ronald Pomeroy:
>> Citing this study:
>>
>> http://www.uxmatters.com/mt/archives/2006/07/label-placement -in-forms.php
>>
>
> Interesting.
>
>> Based the New and Noteworthy screenshots it appears e4 has chosen the
>> least effective form Label alignment strategy for form generation (I.E.
>> left aligned). Right alignment - would be a step in the "right"
>> direction and would make e4 a bit more polished.
>>
>
> Right align is not a problem to implement. I'm not sure about putting
> the label above because we have much more horizonzal space than vertical
> so making the user scroll is even worse I think.
>
>> Sorry to be so direct but I'm still amazed this layout faux paus still
>> happens so often.
>>
>> Is it too late to be fixed before 1.0???
>>
>
> No it's not too late and please file a bug and add me as a CC member
>
> Tom


--
Thanks,

Ron
rpomeroy at mac.com
Re: Default alignment of labels [message #527141 is a reply to message #527092] Wed, 14 April 2010 08:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thomas Schindl is currently offline Thomas Schindl
Messages: 5419
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi,

Did you filed a bugzilla yet? I guess we should dicuss this with a wider
committer audience because as you suggested we should be consistent.

Tom

Am 14.04.10 05:02, schrieb Ronald Pomeroy:
> Yep.
>
> The M5 New and Noteworthy
>
> http://download.eclipse.org/e4/downloads/drops/S-1.0M5-20100 4111600/e4-news-M5.html
>
>
> At
> least it's consistently wrong :-) Tells me it should be easier to remedy.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ron
>
>
> On 2010-04-13 00:09:21 -0700, Tom Schindl said:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> You are talking about the Model Editor?
>>
>> Am 13.04.10 06:26, schrieb Ronald Pomeroy:
>>> Citing this study:
>>>
>>> http://www.uxmatters.com/mt/archives/2006/07/label-placement -in-forms.php
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Interesting.
>>
>>> Based the New and Noteworthy screenshots it appears e4 has chosen the
>>> least effective form Label alignment strategy for form generation (I.E.
>>> left aligned). Right alignment - would be a step in the "right"
>>> direction and would make e4 a bit more polished.
>>>
>>
>> Right align is not a problem to implement. I'm not sure about putting
>> the label above because we have much more horizonzal space than vertical
>> so making the user scroll is even worse I think.
>>
>>> Sorry to be so direct but I'm still amazed this layout faux paus still
>>> happens so often.
>>>
>>> Is it too late to be fixed before 1.0???
>>>
>>
>> No it's not too late and please file a bug and add me as a CC member
>>
>> Tom
>
>
Re: Default alignment of labels [message #527402 is a reply to message #527141] Thu, 15 April 2010 06:14 Go to previous message
Ronald Pomeroy is currently offline Ronald Pomeroy
Messages: 19
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Use Bug bug 309259 to track this issue.

Cheers,

Ron
'
On 2010-04-14 01:43:45 -0700, Tom Schindl said:

> Hi,
>
> Did you filed a bugzilla yet? I guess we should dicuss this with a wider
> committer audience because as you suggested we should be consistent.
>
> Tom
>
> Am 14.04.10 05:02, schrieb Ronald Pomeroy:
>> Yep.
>>
>> The M5 New and Noteworthy
>>
>> http://download.eclipse.org/e4/downloads/drops/S-1.0M5-20100 4111600/e4-news-M5.html


At
least
>>
>> it's consistently wrong :-) Tells me it should be easier to remedy.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ron
>>
>>
>> On 2010-04-13 00:09:21 -0700, Tom Schindl said:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> You are talking about the Model Editor?
>>>
>>> Am 13.04.10 06:26, schrieb Ronald Pomeroy:
>>>> Citing this study:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.uxmatters.com/mt/archives/2006/07/label-placement -in-forms.php
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Interesting.
>>>
>>>> Based the New and Noteworthy screenshots it appears e4 has chosen the
>>>> least effective form Label alignment strategy for form generation (I.E.
>>>> left aligned). Right alignment - would be a step in the "right"
>>>> direction and would make e4 a bit more polished.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Right align is not a problem to implement. I'm not sure about putting
>>> the label above because we have much more horizonzal space than vertical
>>> so making the user scroll is even worse I think.
>>>
>>>> Sorry to be so direct but I'm still amazed this layout faux paus still
>>>> happens so often.
>>>>
>>>> Is it too late to be fixed before 1.0???
>>>>
>>>
>>> No it's not too late and please file a bug and add me as a CC member
>>>
>>> Tom


--
Thanks,

Ron
rpomeroy at mac.com
Re: Default alignment of labels [message #574023 is a reply to message #526810] Tue, 13 April 2010 07:09 Go to previous message
Thomas Schindl is currently offline Thomas Schindl
Messages: 5419
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi,

You are talking about the Model Editor?

Am 13.04.10 06:26, schrieb Ronald Pomeroy:
> Citing this study:
>
> http://www.uxmatters.com/mt/archives/2006/07/label-placement -in-forms.php
>

Interesting.

> Based the New and Noteworthy screenshots it appears e4 has chosen the
> least effective form Label alignment strategy for form generation (I.E.
> left aligned). Right alignment - would be a step in the "right"
> direction and would make e4 a bit more polished.
>

Right align is not a problem to implement. I'm not sure about putting
the label above because we have much more horizonzal space than vertical
so making the user scroll is even worse I think.

> Sorry to be so direct but I'm still amazed this layout faux paus still
> happens so often.
>
> Is it too late to be fixed before 1.0???
>

No it's not too late and please file a bug and add me as a CC member

Tom
Re: Default alignment of labels [message #574146 is a reply to message #526823] Wed, 14 April 2010 03:02 Go to previous message
Ronald Pomeroy is currently offline Ronald Pomeroy
Messages: 19
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Yep.

The M5 New and Noteworthy

http://download.eclipse.org/e4/downloads/drops/S-1.0M5-20100 4111600/e4-news-M5.html

At

least it's consistently wrong :-) Tells me it should be easier to remedy.

Regards,

Ron


On 2010-04-13 00:09:21 -0700, Tom Schindl said:

> Hi,
>
> You are talking about the Model Editor?
>
> Am 13.04.10 06:26, schrieb Ronald Pomeroy:
>> Citing this study:
>>
>> http://www.uxmatters.com/mt/archives/2006/07/label-placement -in-forms.php
>>
>
> Interesting.
>
>> Based the New and Noteworthy screenshots it appears e4 has chosen the
>> least effective form Label alignment strategy for form generation (I.E.
>> left aligned). Right alignment - would be a step in the "right"
>> direction and would make e4 a bit more polished.
>>
>
> Right align is not a problem to implement. I'm not sure about putting
> the label above because we have much more horizonzal space than vertical
> so making the user scroll is even worse I think.
>
>> Sorry to be so direct but I'm still amazed this layout faux paus still
>> happens so often.
>>
>> Is it too late to be fixed before 1.0???
>>
>
> No it's not too late and please file a bug and add me as a CC member
>
> Tom


--
Thanks,

Ron
rpomeroy at mac.com
Re: Default alignment of labels [message #574180 is a reply to message #527092] Wed, 14 April 2010 08:43 Go to previous message
Thomas Schindl is currently offline Thomas Schindl
Messages: 5419
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi,

Did you filed a bugzilla yet? I guess we should dicuss this with a wider
committer audience because as you suggested we should be consistent.

Tom

Am 14.04.10 05:02, schrieb Ronald Pomeroy:
> Yep.
>
> The M5 New and Noteworthy
>
> http://download.eclipse.org/e4/downloads/drops/S-1.0M5-20100 4111600/e4-news-M5.html
>
>
> At
> least it's consistently wrong :-) Tells me it should be easier to remedy.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ron
>
>
> On 2010-04-13 00:09:21 -0700, Tom Schindl said:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> You are talking about the Model Editor?
>>
>> Am 13.04.10 06:26, schrieb Ronald Pomeroy:
>>> Citing this study:
>>>
>>> http://www.uxmatters.com/mt/archives/2006/07/label-placement -in-forms.php
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Interesting.
>>
>>> Based the New and Noteworthy screenshots it appears e4 has chosen the
>>> least effective form Label alignment strategy for form generation (I.E.
>>> left aligned). Right alignment - would be a step in the "right"
>>> direction and would make e4 a bit more polished.
>>>
>>
>> Right align is not a problem to implement. I'm not sure about putting
>> the label above because we have much more horizonzal space than vertical
>> so making the user scroll is even worse I think.
>>
>>> Sorry to be so direct but I'm still amazed this layout faux paus still
>>> happens so often.
>>>
>>> Is it too late to be fixed before 1.0???
>>>
>>
>> No it's not too late and please file a bug and add me as a CC member
>>
>> Tom
>
>
Re: Default alignment of labels [message #574198 is a reply to message #527141] Thu, 15 April 2010 06:14 Go to previous message
Ronald Pomeroy is currently offline Ronald Pomeroy
Messages: 19
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Use Bug bug 309259 to track this issue.

Cheers,

Ron
'
On 2010-04-14 01:43:45 -0700, Tom Schindl said:

> Hi,
>
> Did you filed a bugzilla yet? I guess we should dicuss this with a wider
> committer audience because as you suggested we should be consistent.
>
> Tom
>
> Am 14.04.10 05:02, schrieb Ronald Pomeroy:
>> Yep.
>>
>> The M5 New and Noteworthy
>>
>> http://download.eclipse.org/e4/downloads/drops/S-1.0M5-20100 4111600/e4-news-M5.html


At
least
>>
>> it's consistently wrong :-) Tells me it should be easier to remedy.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ron
>>
>>
>> On 2010-04-13 00:09:21 -0700, Tom Schindl said:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> You are talking about the Model Editor?
>>>
>>> Am 13.04.10 06:26, schrieb Ronald Pomeroy:
>>>> Citing this study:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.uxmatters.com/mt/archives/2006/07/label-placement -in-forms.php
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Interesting.
>>>
>>>> Based the New and Noteworthy screenshots it appears e4 has chosen the
>>>> least effective form Label alignment strategy for form generation (I.E.
>>>> left aligned). Right alignment - would be a step in the "right"
>>>> direction and would make e4 a bit more polished.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Right align is not a problem to implement. I'm not sure about putting
>>> the label above because we have much more horizonzal space than vertical
>>> so making the user scroll is even worse I think.
>>>
>>>> Sorry to be so direct but I'm still amazed this layout faux paus still
>>>> happens so often.
>>>>
>>>> Is it too late to be fixed before 1.0???
>>>>
>>>
>>> No it's not too late and please file a bug and add me as a CC member
>>>
>>> Tom


--
Thanks,

Ron
rpomeroy at mac.com
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