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Use e4 or Eclipse RCP for rich gui for desktop application? [message #517421] Sat, 27 February 2010 17:26 Go to next message
Dean Schulze is currently offline Dean Schulze
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I have a Java desktop application and I need to add a rich GUI to it. Is this the kind of application that e4 would be good for, or should I stick with the Eclipse 3 RCP for this kind of thing? (One problem with Eclipse 3 RCP is that the books are out of date.)

If e4 is the better choice going forward for rich GUIs for desktop applications is there sufficient up-to-data documentation to get up the e4 learning curve?

Links to documents and tutorials are welcome.

Thanks.

Dean
Re: Use e4 or Eclipse RCP for rich gui for desktop application? [message #517782 is a reply to message #517421] Tue, 02 March 2010 03:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lars Vogel is currently offline Lars Vogel
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Hi,

for an RCP tutorial please see here:
http://www.vogella.de/articles/RichClientPlatform/article.ht ml

You find a small Eclipse e4 tutorial here:
http://www.vogella.de/articles/EclipseE4/article.html

Best regards, Lars

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On 27.02.2010 09:26, Dean Schulze wrote:
> I have a Java desktop application and I need to add a rich GUI to it.
> Is this the kind of application that e4 would be good for, or should I
> stick with the Eclipse 3 RCP for this kind of thing? (One problem with
> Eclipse 3 RCP is that the books are out of date.)
>
> If e4 is the better choice going forward for rich GUIs for desktop
> applications is there sufficient up-to-data documentation to get up the
> e4 learning curve?
>
> Links to documents and tutorials are welcome.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dean
>
Re: Use e4 or Eclipse RCP for rich gui for desktop application? [message #518010 is a reply to message #517782] Tue, 02 March 2010 18:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dean Schulze is currently offline Dean Schulze
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Registered: July 2009
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Lars,

Thanks for those links. Since I'm new to RCP I need something more comprehensive. The 2nd Edition of the RCP book is available as a Safari Rough Cut:

http://www.informit.com/store/product.aspx?isbn=0321612337

so I've decided to go with Eclipse 3.5 for this project.

How much will RCP development change under e4?

Thanks.

Dean
Re: Use e4 or Eclipse RCP for rich gui for desktop application? [message #518187 is a reply to message #517421] Wed, 03 March 2010 12:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Roland Tepp is currently offline Roland Tepp
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Hi Dean,

This is my personal preference and as the saying goes, your mileage may
vary, but from my experience of working on a 3.x based RCP application,
I can safely say that eclipse RCP is a mixed blessing.

On some level it is not all too hard to jump in and get some basic thing
off the ground, but on the other hand the whole framework is kind of
inflexible and sometimes you'll have to resort to extensively working
around those inflexibilities.

Although I've not had any significant development experience with e4
yet, I must say that the overall platform looks and sounds more like an
adequate fit for the application I am currently building and maintaining.

If you are just starting to develop your java GUI, I'd strongly suggest
taking a look at e4 and making use of it's infinitely more flexible
architecture.

27.02.2010 19:26, Dean Schulze kirjutas:
> I have a Java desktop application and I need to add a rich GUI to it.
> Is this the kind of application that e4 would be good for, or should I
> stick with the Eclipse 3 RCP for this kind of thing? (One problem with
> Eclipse 3 RCP is that the books are out of date.)
>
> If e4 is the better choice going forward for rich GUIs for desktop
> applications is there sufficient up-to-data documentation to get up the
> e4 learning curve?
>
> Links to documents and tutorials are welcome.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dean
>


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Roland Tepp
Re: Use e4 or Eclipse RCP for rich gui for desktop application? [message #520425 is a reply to message #517421] Fri, 12 March 2010 05:48 Go to previous message
Yves YANG is currently offline Yves YANG
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Here is a screencast to help you getting started:
http://wiki.eclipse.org/E4/E4Designer

We are working on the integration of e4 Visual Designer and XWT to provide a
complete WYSIWYG development environment. Keep turn.

Best regards
Yves YANG
"Dean Schulze" <dean_w_schulze@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I have a Java desktop application and I need to add a rich GUI to it. Is
>this the kind of application that e4 would be good for, or should I stick
>with the Eclipse 3 RCP for this kind of thing? (One problem with Eclipse 3
>RCP is that the books are out of date.)
>
> If e4 is the better choice going forward for rich GUIs for desktop
> applications is there sufficient up-to-data documentation to get up the e4
> learning curve?
>
> Links to documents and tutorials are welcome.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dean
>
Re: Use e4 or Eclipse RCP for rich gui for desktop application? [message #569351 is a reply to message #517782] Tue, 02 March 2010 18:39 Go to previous message
Dean Schulze is currently offline Dean Schulze
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Registered: July 2009
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Lars,

Thanks for those links. Since I'm new to RCP I need something more comprehensive. The 2nd Edition of the RCP book is available as a Safari Rough Cut:

http://www.informit.com/store/product.aspx?isbn=0321612337

so I've decided to go with Eclipse 3.5 for this project.

How much will RCP development change under e4?

Thanks.

Dean
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