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Using 'b3' in texts (articles and titles) [message #510371] Wed, 27 January 2010 11:24 Go to next message
Filip Hrbek is currently offline Filip Hrbek
Messages: 233
Registered: July 2009
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Hi all,

I have two questions:

1) Is there any concept of using the 'b3' name in documents?

A typical problem is whether to always use lower case 'b' or not. What happens if I want to start a sentence with 'b3' like in following examples

a) a sentence in an article

b3 may replace PDE build in future.

or

B3 may replace PDE build in future.

b) a label in a list of categories

....
CVS
Eclipse Modeling Framework
Ecore Tools
b3
Java
....

or

....
CVS
Eclipse Modeling Framework
Ecore Tools
B3
Java
....

2) Is there any official label for what 'b3' stands for?

I mean something like EMF = Eclipse Modeling Framework, b3 = ???

Using 'b3' in category lists in not self-explanatory without a label.

Filip
Re: Using 'b3' in texts (articles and titles) [message #510384 is a reply to message #510371] Wed, 27 January 2010 12:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thomas Hallgren is currently offline Thomas Hallgren
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Registered: July 2009
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My vote is in favor of using lower case 'b3' always. I.e. even at the beginning of sentences. The fact that it's
unconventional is a good thing in that it gets peoples attention.

- thomas


On 01/27/2010 12:24 PM, Filip Hrbek wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have two questions:
>
> 1) Is there any concept of using the 'b3' name in documents?
>
> A typical problem is whether to always use lower case 'b' or not. What
> happens if I want to start a sentence with 'b3' like in following examples
>
> a) a sentence in an article
>
> b3 may replace PDE build in future.
>
> or
>
> B3 may replace PDE build in future.
>
> b) a label in a list of categories
>
> ...
> CVS
> Eclipse Modeling Framework
> Ecore Tools
> b3
> Java
> ...
>
> or
>
> ...
> CVS
> Eclipse Modeling Framework
> Ecore Tools
> B3
> Java
> ...
>
> 2) Is there any official label for what 'b3' stands for?
>
> I mean something like EMF = Eclipse Modeling Framework, b3 = ???
>
> Using 'b3' in category lists in not self-explanatory without a label.
>
> Filip
Re: Using 'b3' in texts (articles and titles) [message #510405 is a reply to message #510384] Wed, 27 January 2010 12:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Karel Brezina is currently offline Karel Brezina
Messages: 68
Registered: July 2009
Member
I think, b3 should have a self-explanatory label, such as "b3 Build
Framework". b3 does not say much to a novice.

Karel


Thomas Hallgren napsal(a):
> My vote is in favor of using lower case 'b3' always. I.e. even at the
> beginning of sentences. The fact that it's unconventional is a good
> thing in that it gets peoples attention.
>
> - thomas
>
>
> On 01/27/2010 12:24 PM, Filip Hrbek wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have two questions:
>>
>> 1) Is there any concept of using the 'b3' name in documents?
>>
>> A typical problem is whether to always use lower case 'b' or not. What
>> happens if I want to start a sentence with 'b3' like in following
>> examples
>>
>> a) a sentence in an article
>>
>> b3 may replace PDE build in future.
>>
>> or
>>
>> B3 may replace PDE build in future.
>>
>> b) a label in a list of categories
>>
>> ...
>> CVS
>> Eclipse Modeling Framework
>> Ecore Tools
>> b3
>> Java
>> ...
>>
>> or
>>
>> ...
>> CVS
>> Eclipse Modeling Framework
>> Ecore Tools
>> B3
>> Java
>> ...
>>
>> 2) Is there any official label for what 'b3' stands for?
>>
>> I mean something like EMF = Eclipse Modeling Framework, b3 = ???
>>
>> Using 'b3' in category lists in not self-explanatory without a label.
>>
>> Filip
>
Re: Using 'b3' in texts (articles and titles) [message #510426 is a reply to message #510371] Wed, 27 January 2010 09:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Henrik Lindberg is currently offline Henrik Lindberg
Messages: 2500
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
I think 'always use lower case' is a good rule.
When writing, it is most of the time not hard to avoid having b3 at the
start of a sentence. Simply use something more specific like:
- The b3 project
- A b3 engine
- The b3 DSL/language
- The b3 builder

- henrik

Filip Hrbek <filip.hrbek@cloudsmith.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have two questions:
>
> 1) Is there any concept of using the 'b3' name in documents?
>
> A typical problem is whether to always use lower case 'b' or not. What
> happens if I want to start a sentence with 'b3' like in following
> examples
>
> a) a sentence in an article
>
> b3 may replace PDE build in future.
>
> or
>
> B3 may replace PDE build in future.
>
> b) a label in a list of categories
>
> ...
> CVS
> Eclipse Modeling Framework
> Ecore Tools
> b3
> Java
> ...
>
> or
>
> ...
> CVS
> Eclipse Modeling Framework
> Ecore Tools
> B3
> Java
> ...
>
> 2) Is there any official label for what 'b3' stands for?
>
> I mean something like EMF = Eclipse Modeling Framework, b3 = ???
>
> Using 'b3' in category lists in not self-explanatory without a label.
>
> Filip


--
- henrik
Re: Using 'b3' in texts (articles and titles) [message #519461 is a reply to message #510371] Mon, 08 March 2010 21:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Erdal Karaca is currently offline Erdal Karaca
Messages: 744
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
I thought b3 stands for "breaking free" like this:

I want to break free
I want to break free
I want to break free from your lies
Youre so self satisfied I don't need you
Ive got to break free
God knows God knows I want to break free

Where "You" is meant to be the "manual build" Smile
Re: Using 'b3' in texts (articles and titles) [message #519470 is a reply to message #519461] Mon, 08 March 2010 17:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Henrik Lindberg is currently offline Henrik Lindberg
Messages: 2500
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
He he, good analogy :)

Cheers
- henrik
On 3/8/10 10:42 PM, Erdal Karaca wrote:
> I thought b3 stands for "breaking free" like this:
>
> I want to break free
> I want to break free
> I want to break free from your lies
> Youre so self satisfied I don't need you
> Ive got to break free
> God knows God knows I want to break free
>
> Where "You" is meant to be the "manual build" :)
Re: Using 'b3' in texts (articles and titles) [message #593510 is a reply to message #510371] Wed, 27 January 2010 12:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thomas Hallgren is currently offline Thomas Hallgren
Messages: 3229
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
My vote is in favor of using lower case 'b3' always. I.e. even at the beginning of sentences. The fact that it's
unconventional is a good thing in that it gets peoples attention.

- thomas


On 01/27/2010 12:24 PM, Filip Hrbek wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have two questions:
>
> 1) Is there any concept of using the 'b3' name in documents?
>
> A typical problem is whether to always use lower case 'b' or not. What
> happens if I want to start a sentence with 'b3' like in following examples
>
> a) a sentence in an article
>
> b3 may replace PDE build in future.
>
> or
>
> B3 may replace PDE build in future.
>
> b) a label in a list of categories
>
> ...
> CVS
> Eclipse Modeling Framework
> Ecore Tools
> b3
> Java
> ...
>
> or
>
> ...
> CVS
> Eclipse Modeling Framework
> Ecore Tools
> B3
> Java
> ...
>
> 2) Is there any official label for what 'b3' stands for?
>
> I mean something like EMF = Eclipse Modeling Framework, b3 = ???
>
> Using 'b3' in category lists in not self-explanatory without a label.
>
> Filip
Re: Using 'b3' in texts (articles and titles) [message #593514 is a reply to message #510384] Wed, 27 January 2010 12:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Karel Brezina is currently offline Karel Brezina
Messages: 68
Registered: July 2009
Member
I think, b3 should have a self-explanatory label, such as "b3 Build
Framework". b3 does not say much to a novice.

Karel


Thomas Hallgren napsal(a):
> My vote is in favor of using lower case 'b3' always. I.e. even at the
> beginning of sentences. The fact that it's unconventional is a good
> thing in that it gets peoples attention.
>
> - thomas
>
>
> On 01/27/2010 12:24 PM, Filip Hrbek wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have two questions:
>>
>> 1) Is there any concept of using the 'b3' name in documents?
>>
>> A typical problem is whether to always use lower case 'b' or not. What
>> happens if I want to start a sentence with 'b3' like in following
>> examples
>>
>> a) a sentence in an article
>>
>> b3 may replace PDE build in future.
>>
>> or
>>
>> B3 may replace PDE build in future.
>>
>> b) a label in a list of categories
>>
>> ...
>> CVS
>> Eclipse Modeling Framework
>> Ecore Tools
>> b3
>> Java
>> ...
>>
>> or
>>
>> ...
>> CVS
>> Eclipse Modeling Framework
>> Ecore Tools
>> B3
>> Java
>> ...
>>
>> 2) Is there any official label for what 'b3' stands for?
>>
>> I mean something like EMF = Eclipse Modeling Framework, b3 = ???
>>
>> Using 'b3' in category lists in not self-explanatory without a label.
>>
>> Filip
>
Re: Using 'b3' in texts (articles and titles) [message #595728 is a reply to message #510371] Wed, 27 January 2010 13:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Henrik Lindberg is currently offline Henrik Lindberg
Messages: 2500
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
I think 'always use lower case' is a good rule.
When writing, it is most of the time not hard to avoid having b3 at the
start of a sentence. Simply use something more specific like:
- The b3 project
- A b3 engine
- The b3 DSL/language
- The b3 builder

- henrik

Filip Hrbek <filip.hrbek@cloudsmith.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have two questions:
>
> 1) Is there any concept of using the 'b3' name in documents?
>
> A typical problem is whether to always use lower case 'b' or not. What
> happens if I want to start a sentence with 'b3' like in following
> examples
>
> a) a sentence in an article
>
> b3 may replace PDE build in future.
>
> or
>
> B3 may replace PDE build in future.
>
> b) a label in a list of categories
>
> ...
> CVS
> Eclipse Modeling Framework
> Ecore Tools
> b3
> Java
> ...
>
> or
>
> ...
> CVS
> Eclipse Modeling Framework
> Ecore Tools
> B3
> Java
> ...
>
> 2) Is there any official label for what 'b3' stands for?
>
> I mean something like EMF = Eclipse Modeling Framework, b3 = ???
>
> Using 'b3' in category lists in not self-explanatory without a label.
>
> Filip


--
- henrik
Re: Using 'b3' in texts (articles and titles) [message #602595 is a reply to message #510371] Mon, 08 March 2010 21:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Erdal Karaca is currently offline Erdal Karaca
Messages: 744
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
I thought b3 stands for "breaking free" like this:

I want to break free
I want to break free
I want to break free from your lies
Youre so self satisfied I don't need you
Ive got to break free
God knows God knows I want to break free

Where "You" is meant to be the "manual build" :)
Re: Using 'b3' in texts (articles and titles) [message #602598 is a reply to message #602595] Mon, 08 March 2010 22:17 Go to previous message
Henrik Lindberg is currently offline Henrik Lindberg
Messages: 2500
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
He he, good analogy :)

Cheers
- henrik
On 3/8/10 10:42 PM, Erdal Karaca wrote:
> I thought b3 stands for "breaking free" like this:
>
> I want to break free
> I want to break free
> I want to break free from your lies
> Youre so self satisfied I don't need you
> Ive got to break free
> God knows God knows I want to break free
>
> Where "You" is meant to be the "manual build" :)
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