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Starting telnet session using TM Terminal View [message #4426] Fri, 19 January 2007 15:36 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: turesheim.atmel.com

I'm attempting to start a telnet session from an action utilizing the
terminal view. However, I don't find any API for doing this "cleanly". Are
there any plans of improving the terminal view by adding such an API?
--
Torkild Ulvøy Resheim
Senior Design Engineer
Atmel Norway AS
Re: Starting telnet session using TM Terminal View [message #4565 is a reply to message #4426] Fri, 19 January 2007 20:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin Oberhuber is currently offline Martin OberhuberFriend
Messages: 985
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
hi torkild,

terminal version is currently 0.9.x so yes, the API is not complete yet.

Since I'm afraid I don't fully understand what you are trying to
accomplish (programmatically open a connection?) here's a bit of
background on planning:

- For one, there's the terminal widget and the terminal view (adding
some lightweight UI around the widget).

- There's a plan (bugzilla plan item, documented on the Wiki RSE 2.0
Planning page) to integrate the terminal widget with RSE, such that
it'll have a "Terminal" subsystem working very similar to the current
Command subsystem but with the Terminal widget.

- Using that, you could add an RSE telnet connector (perhaps using
Jakarta Commons) and open the Terminal programmatically through RSE.

- Then there's the view. Currently, no committer seems to have time to
invest in terminal view. Thus all Terminal View requests are
"helpwanted" and we'll happily receive your contribution. Open a
bugzilla enhancement request, discuss your intentions with the community
there, and once there's agreement that the suggestion makes sense,
attach a patch solving the issue.

Does that help?

Torkild Ulvøy Resheim schrieb:
> I'm attempting to start a telnet session from an action utilizing the
> terminal view. However, I don't find any API for doing this "cleanly". Are
> there any plans of improving the terminal view by adding such an API?


--
Martin Oberhuber
Wind River Systems, Inc.
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
Re: Starting telnet session using TM Terminal View [message #4636 is a reply to message #4565] Sat, 20 January 2007 08:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: torkildr.resheim.no

Hi Martin,

Martin Oberhuber wrote:

> hi torkild,
>
> terminal version is currently 0.9.x so yes, the API is not complete yet.
>
> Since I'm afraid I don't fully understand what you are trying to
> accomplish (programmatically open a connection?) here's a bit of
Yes.
> background on planning:
>
> - For one, there's the terminal widget and the terminal view (adding
> some lightweight UI around the widget).
I noticed. The terminal client works quite nicely :-)
>
> - There's a plan (bugzilla plan item, documented on the Wiki RSE 2.0
> Planning page) to integrate the terminal widget with RSE, such that
> it'll have a "Terminal" subsystem working very similar to the current
> Command subsystem but with the Terminal widget.
I think that's a good idea. And with a more open API the entire TM will be
much more flexible.
>
> - Using that, you could add an RSE telnet connector (perhaps using
> Jakarta Commons) and open the Terminal programmatically through RSE.
>
> - Then there's the view. Currently, no committer seems to have time to
> invest in terminal view. Thus all Terminal View requests are
> "helpwanted" and we'll happily receive your contribution. Open a
> bugzilla enhancement request, discuss your intentions with the community
> there, and once there's agreement that the suggestion makes sense,
> attach a patch solving the issue.
>
> Does that help?
Yes, thank you.

What I would very much like is the ability to open a telnet session (and
view) simply using the host and port number. If the named view did not
exist it would open automatically. This is quite unattached to RSE per se
but I think it should be possible. Anyway I think I'll do some adjustments
to the terminal client plugins to suit our needs and see if can make it fit
into the RSE "theme" as well. If you're interested in the end result I'll
submit a patch.

>
> Torkild Ulvøy Resheim schrieb:
>> I'm attempting to start a telnet session from an action utilizing the
>> terminal view. However, I don't find any API for doing this "cleanly".
>> Are there any plans of improving the terminal view by adding such an API?
>

Thank you again for taking your time.
--
Med vennlig hilsen / Kind regards
Torkild Ulvøy Resheim
Re: Starting telnet session using TM Terminal View [message #4774 is a reply to message #4636] Mon, 22 January 2007 12:26 Go to previous message
Martin Oberhuber is currently offline Martin OberhuberFriend
Messages: 985
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Torkild,

a patch will be very much appreciated.

Note that we do have quite some interest in the plain Terminal View
without RSE as well. So if you think that you'd rather have your propsed
action in the Terminal View without RSE, that's fine.

Thanks,
--
Martin Oberhuber
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
Re: Starting telnet session using TM Terminal View [message #565828 is a reply to message #4426] Fri, 19 January 2007 20:55 Go to previous message
Martin Oberhuber is currently offline Martin OberhuberFriend
Messages: 985
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
hi torkild,

terminal version is currently 0.9.x so yes, the API is not complete yet.

Since I'm afraid I don't fully understand what you are trying to
accomplish (programmatically open a connection?) here's a bit of
background on planning:

- For one, there's the terminal widget and the terminal view (adding
some lightweight UI around the widget).

- There's a plan (bugzilla plan item, documented on the Wiki RSE 2.0
Planning page) to integrate the terminal widget with RSE, such that
it'll have a "Terminal" subsystem working very similar to the current
Command subsystem but with the Terminal widget.

- Using that, you could add an RSE telnet connector (perhaps using
Jakarta Commons) and open the Terminal programmatically through RSE.

- Then there's the view. Currently, no committer seems to have time to
invest in terminal view. Thus all Terminal View requests are
"helpwanted" and we'll happily receive your contribution. Open a
bugzilla enhancement request, discuss your intentions with the community
there, and once there's agreement that the suggestion makes sense,
attach a patch solving the issue.

Does that help?

Torkild Ulvøy Resheim schrieb:
> I'm attempting to start a telnet session from an action utilizing the
> terminal view. However, I don't find any API for doing this "cleanly". Are
> there any plans of improving the terminal view by adding such an API?


--
Martin Oberhuber
Wind River Systems, Inc.
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
Re: Starting telnet session using TM Terminal View [message #565858 is a reply to message #4565] Sat, 20 January 2007 08:29 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: torkildr.resheim.no

Hi Martin,

Martin Oberhuber wrote:

> hi torkild,
>
> terminal version is currently 0.9.x so yes, the API is not complete yet.
>
> Since I'm afraid I don't fully understand what you are trying to
> accomplish (programmatically open a connection?) here's a bit of
Yes.
> background on planning:
>
> - For one, there's the terminal widget and the terminal view (adding
> some lightweight UI around the widget).
I noticed. The terminal client works quite nicely :-)
>
> - There's a plan (bugzilla plan item, documented on the Wiki RSE 2.0
> Planning page) to integrate the terminal widget with RSE, such that
> it'll have a "Terminal" subsystem working very similar to the current
> Command subsystem but with the Terminal widget.
I think that's a good idea. And with a more open API the entire TM will be
much more flexible.
>
> - Using that, you could add an RSE telnet connector (perhaps using
> Jakarta Commons) and open the Terminal programmatically through RSE.
>
> - Then there's the view. Currently, no committer seems to have time to
> invest in terminal view. Thus all Terminal View requests are
> "helpwanted" and we'll happily receive your contribution. Open a
> bugzilla enhancement request, discuss your intentions with the community
> there, and once there's agreement that the suggestion makes sense,
> attach a patch solving the issue.
>
> Does that help?
Yes, thank you.

What I would very much like is the ability to open a telnet session (and
view) simply using the host and port number. If the named view did not
exist it would open automatically. This is quite unattached to RSE per se
but I think it should be possible. Anyway I think I'll do some adjustments
to the terminal client plugins to suit our needs and see if can make it fit
into the RSE "theme" as well. If you're interested in the end result I'll
submit a patch.

>
> Torkild Ulvøy Resheim schrieb:
>> I'm attempting to start a telnet session from an action utilizing the
>> terminal view. However, I don't find any API for doing this "cleanly".
>> Are there any plans of improving the terminal view by adding such an API?
>

Thank you again for taking your time.
--
Med vennlig hilsen / Kind regards
Torkild Ulvøy Resheim
Re: Starting telnet session using TM Terminal View [message #565920 is a reply to message #4636] Mon, 22 January 2007 12:26 Go to previous message
Martin Oberhuber is currently offline Martin OberhuberFriend
Messages: 985
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Torkild,

a patch will be very much appreciated.

Note that we do have quite some interest in the plain Terminal View
without RSE as well. So if you think that you'd rather have your propsed
action in the Terminal View without RSE, that's fine.

Thanks,
--
Martin Oberhuber
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
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