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How do I activate installed software ? [message #484906] Wed, 09 September 2009 16:26 Go to next message
Darryl Miles is currently offline Darryl MilesFriend
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Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
How do I activate "Installed Software" ?

What I mean by activate is so that when Eclipse starts up it is
activated/running so I can use it ?

The "Installed Software" tab is at Help -> About Eclipse -> Installation
Details -> [Installed Software], this tab is full of all the software I
downloaded and installed and wish to use, but none of it works.




I installed 3.5 Ganymede with WTP. I then added around 8 update sites
and downloaded and installed the respective features/plugins in multiple
passes restarting Eclipse each time.



Now I can clearly see the features/plugins files in the directory:

$HOME/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0/

as in:

$HOME/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0/features/
$HOME/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0/plugins/


and Eclipse clearly knows this software is "Installed Software" since
that tab is full of all the software I want to use.

However none of this software appears to be running/working.



So how do I activate "Installed Software" ?



I have attempted to probive a dropin links file
/opt/eclipse/dropins/foobar.link containing:

path=/home/dlm/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0

But that doesn't work either.



I have restarted with -clean, I have not seen any errors in the Error
Log or stdout/stderr during startup (relating to plugin
startup/activation/dependencies). I do not believe the problem to be
missing dependencies, some of the installed plugins only need Eclipse
Platform 3.4+/3.5 to be usable.

The problem is Eclipse is not activating these plugins.



Thanks,

Darryl
Re: How do I activate installed software ? [message #484971 is a reply to message #484906] Thu, 10 September 2009 03:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Wegener is currently offline David WegenerFriend
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Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Darryl L. Miles wrote:
>
>
> How do I activate "Installed Software" ?
>
> What I mean by activate is so that when Eclipse starts up it is
> activated/running so I can use it ?
>
> The "Installed Software" tab is at Help -> About Eclipse -> Installation
> Details -> [Installed Software], this tab is full of all the software I
> downloaded and installed and wish to use, but none of it works.
>
>

You shouldn't have to do anything to activate plugins if all
dependencies are satisfied. You just need to start using the features.
You may need to open a perspective or view specific to the plugin in
order to get to some of the features provided.

Can you give specific examples of a feature you are trying to use and
what steps you followed that didn't work.

>
>
> I installed 3.5 Ganymede with WTP. I then added around 8 update sites
> and downloaded and installed the respective features/plugins in multiple
> passes restarting Eclipse each time.
>
>
>
> Now I can clearly see the features/plugins files in the directory:
>
> $HOME/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0/
>
> as in:
>
> $HOME/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0/features/
> $HOME/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0/plugins/
>
>
> and Eclipse clearly knows this software is "Installed Software" since
> that tab is full of all the software I want to use.
>
> However none of this software appears to be running/working.
>
>
>
> So how do I activate "Installed Software" ?
>
>
>
> I have attempted to probive a dropin links file
> /opt/eclipse/dropins/foobar.link containing:
>
> path=/home/dlm/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0
>
> But that doesn't work either.
>

I would expect that this would cause problems. If you used Eclipse to
download the additional features, it already knows where to find them.
Having an additional link from the dropin folder could confuse things.


>
>
> I have restarted with -clean, I have not seen any errors in the Error
> Log or stdout/stderr during startup (relating to plugin
> startup/activation/dependencies). I do not believe the problem to be
> missing dependencies, some of the installed plugins only need Eclipse
> Platform 3.4+/3.5 to be usable.
>
> The problem is Eclipse is not activating these plugins.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Darryl
Re: How do I activate installed software ? [message #485152 is a reply to message #484971] Thu, 10 September 2009 15:38 Go to previous message
Darryl Miles is currently offline Darryl MilesFriend
Messages: 123
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Thanks for your reply. My responses below.


David Wegener wrote:
> Darryl L. Miles wrote:
>> How do I activate "Installed Software" ?
>>
>> What I mean by activate is so that when Eclipse starts up it is
>> activated/running so I can use it ?
>>
>> The "Installed Software" tab is at Help -> About Eclipse ->
>> Installation Details -> [Installed Software], this tab is full of all
>> the software I downloaded and installed and wish to use, but none of
>> it works.
>>
> You shouldn't have to do anything to activate plugins if all
> dependencies are satisfied. You just need to start using the features.
> You may need to open a perspective or view specific to the plugin in
> order to get to some of the features provided.
>
> Can you give specific examples of a feature you are trying to use and
> what steps you followed that didn't work.


Yes that was my understanding too, I should not need to do anything.

Here is a simple set of sequences I followed to recreate the bug/issue.

I'm on 64bit linux, but using 32bit JVM and Eclipse (as I have been
doing for the past few years). I am using Sun JVM 32bit build 1.6.0_16-b01.


In my home directory $HOME I extract the archive
eclipse-jee-galileo-linux-gtk.tar.gz which creates the dir "eclipse".

I then issue the command "rm -rf
$HOME/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0" which ensures the
configuration data has been deleted (from my previous install attempts).

I then issue the command "rm -rf workspace; mkdir workspace" to create
an empty workspace.


I then run "$HOME/eclipse/eclipse -configuration
$HOME/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0 -clean". I select my
"$HOME/workspace" folder as the workspace to use during start up. I
then dismiss the "Welcome" view. I use the "-configuration" for 2
reasons, the base install of eclipse should be read-only (system wide
and sharable) but the configuration area is where it can write to. Also
in order to preserve my configuration settings over versions This has
worked well since Eclipse 3.1.

I then goto "Help -> Install New Software". I click the "Available
Software Sites" to access the preferences.

I then add "JavaFX" at "http://javafx.com/downloads/eclipse-plugin/" and
then click "Test Connection" and it confirms it is available. I then OK
the preferences dialog.

At the "Install New Software" I pick the JavaFX site and select all
items in list (there is only 1). I click next, I click Next, I set
"Accept agreements", I click Finish.

Now Eclipse downloads the JavaFX plugin and installs it, then it offers
to reboot. I accept and click Yes.


Once Eclipse restarts, I can clearly see a "FX" blue icon in the main
toolbar and an extra menu item in the "Help" menu (called "JavaFX ->"
with submenu). If I also goto "About Eclipse" -> "Installation Details"
I can see that JavaFX is both listed in "Install Software" tab and also
one or more"com.sun.javafx.eclipse.*" in "Features" tab and "Plugins"
tab. This is good !


Now I go back to "Install New Software" and this time add the update
site for "Eclispe AJDT" at
"http://download.eclipse.org/tools/ajdt/35/update". I follow the same
procedure as above again.

This time neither "Eclipse AJDT" nor "JavaFX" plugins appears to be
present in the UI. They are only listed in "Installed Software" but are
now shown in "Features" or "Plugins" tabs anymore.

From this point on the only Perspective/Views/functionality is that of
the original core eclipse-jee-galileo-linux-gtk.tar.gz file.



>> I have attempted to probive a dropin links file
>> /opt/eclipse/dropins/foobar.link containing:
>>
>> path=/home/dlm/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0
>>
>> But that doesn't work either.
>>
>
> I would expect that this would cause problems. If you used Eclipse to
> download the additional features, it already knows where to find them.
> Having an additional link from the dropin folder could confuse things.

The dropins folder doesn't appear to work at all, I have a small repo of
plugins.



Darryl
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