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modifying client-side udc UI [message #481919] Mon, 24 August 2009 13:30 Go to next message
Frank Kurzawa is currently offline Frank Kurzawa
Messages: 7
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
We want to deploy udc capability into an internal rcp app. Since the
application is for internal use only, there is no need to include the
Terms of Use splash page, and we also want to remove the splash in which
users choose to upload now, or later or not at all, etc.
In our application's .ini file I have included the following entries to be
passed as jvm args:
-Dorg.eclipse.epp.usagedata.recording.ask=false
-Dorg.eclipse.epp.usagedata.gathering.terms_accepted=true

AFAICS, these two settings should result in avoiding both the Terms of Use
and Whether To Upload splash pages, but they don't seem to have any effect
at all.

Is there some other setting that I haven't been able to discern yet?

Thanks in advance,

Frank
Re: modifying client-side udc UI [message #481930 is a reply to message #481919] Mon, 24 August 2009 14:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Beaton is currently offline Wayne Beaton
Messages: 496
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
There is no support for overriding user acceptance of the terms of use.
This was an explicit design decision. So, the first -D parameter does
what you expect; the second parameter has no effect.

I recommend that you open a bug if you want to discuss the issue.

As part of the Helios release, we really want to refactor the code base
to make reuse of parts easier. There is also some effort underway to
merge the Mylyn Monitor code with the UDC. Your input into this effort
will be greatly appreciated.

Wayne

Frank Kurzawa wrote:
> We want to deploy udc capability into an internal rcp app. Since the
> application is for internal use only, there is no need to include the
> Terms of Use splash page, and we also want to remove the splash in which
> users choose to upload now, or later or not at all, etc.
> In our application's .ini file I have included the following entries to
> be passed as jvm args:
> -Dorg.eclipse.epp.usagedata.recording.ask=false
> -Dorg.eclipse.epp.usagedata.gathering.terms_accepted=true
>
> AFAICS, these two settings should result in avoiding both the Terms of
> Use and Whether To Upload splash pages, but they don't seem to have any
> effect at all.
>
> Is there some other setting that I haven't been able to discern yet?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Frank
>
Re: modifying client-side udc UI [message #481951 is a reply to message #481930] Mon, 24 August 2009 15:59 Go to previous message
Frank Kurzawa is currently offline Frank Kurzawa
Messages: 7
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Ouch.
It seems that even if a user of this UDC wanted to include a EULA in there
product, they would still have to replace
org.eclipse.epp.usagedata.gathering: There's no provision to substitute a
different EULA that doesn't refer to the eclipse foundation and the
specific ways that they will or will not use the information.
I'll open a bug.

Thanks Wayne,

Frank



Wayne Beaton wrote:

> There is no support for overriding user acceptance of the terms of use.
> This was an explicit design decision. So, the first -D parameter does
> what you expect; the second parameter has no effect.

> I recommend that you open a bug if you want to discuss the issue.

> As part of the Helios release, we really want to refactor the code base
> to make reuse of parts easier. There is also some effort underway to
> merge the Mylyn Monitor code with the UDC. Your input into this effort
> will be greatly appreciated.

> Wayne

> Frank Kurzawa wrote:
>> We want to deploy udc capability into an internal rcp app. Since the
>> application is for internal use only, there is no need to include the
>> Terms of Use splash page, and we also want to remove the splash in which
>> users choose to upload now, or later or not at all, etc.
>> In our application's .ini file I have included the following entries to
>> be passed as jvm args:
>> -Dorg.eclipse.epp.usagedata.recording.ask=false
>> -Dorg.eclipse.epp.usagedata.gathering.terms_accepted=true
>>
>> AFAICS, these two settings should result in avoiding both the Terms of
>> Use and Whether To Upload splash pages, but they don't seem to have any
>> effect at all.
>>
>> Is there some other setting that I haven't been able to discern yet?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Frank
>>
Re: modifying client-side udc UI [message #579652 is a reply to message #481919] Mon, 24 August 2009 14:10 Go to previous message
Wayne Beaton is currently offline Wayne Beaton
Messages: 496
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
There is no support for overriding user acceptance of the terms of use.
This was an explicit design decision. So, the first -D parameter does
what you expect; the second parameter has no effect.

I recommend that you open a bug if you want to discuss the issue.

As part of the Helios release, we really want to refactor the code base
to make reuse of parts easier. There is also some effort underway to
merge the Mylyn Monitor code with the UDC. Your input into this effort
will be greatly appreciated.

Wayne

Frank Kurzawa wrote:
> We want to deploy udc capability into an internal rcp app. Since the
> application is for internal use only, there is no need to include the
> Terms of Use splash page, and we also want to remove the splash in which
> users choose to upload now, or later or not at all, etc.
> In our application's .ini file I have included the following entries to
> be passed as jvm args:
> -Dorg.eclipse.epp.usagedata.recording.ask=false
> -Dorg.eclipse.epp.usagedata.gathering.terms_accepted=true
>
> AFAICS, these two settings should result in avoiding both the Terms of
> Use and Whether To Upload splash pages, but they don't seem to have any
> effect at all.
>
> Is there some other setting that I haven't been able to discern yet?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Frank
>
Re: modifying client-side udc UI [message #579669 is a reply to message #481930] Mon, 24 August 2009 15:59 Go to previous message
Frank Kurzawa is currently offline Frank Kurzawa
Messages: 7
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Ouch.
It seems that even if a user of this UDC wanted to include a EULA in there
product, they would still have to replace
org.eclipse.epp.usagedata.gathering: There's no provision to substitute a
different EULA that doesn't refer to the eclipse foundation and the
specific ways that they will or will not use the information.
I'll open a bug.

Thanks Wayne,

Frank



Wayne Beaton wrote:

> There is no support for overriding user acceptance of the terms of use.
> This was an explicit design decision. So, the first -D parameter does
> what you expect; the second parameter has no effect.

> I recommend that you open a bug if you want to discuss the issue.

> As part of the Helios release, we really want to refactor the code base
> to make reuse of parts easier. There is also some effort underway to
> merge the Mylyn Monitor code with the UDC. Your input into this effort
> will be greatly appreciated.

> Wayne

> Frank Kurzawa wrote:
>> We want to deploy udc capability into an internal rcp app. Since the
>> application is for internal use only, there is no need to include the
>> Terms of Use splash page, and we also want to remove the splash in which
>> users choose to upload now, or later or not at all, etc.
>> In our application's .ini file I have included the following entries to
>> be passed as jvm args:
>> -Dorg.eclipse.epp.usagedata.recording.ask=false
>> -Dorg.eclipse.epp.usagedata.gathering.terms_accepted=true
>>
>> AFAICS, these two settings should result in avoiding both the Terms of
>> Use and Whether To Upload splash pages, but they don't seem to have any
>> effect at all.
>>
>> Is there some other setting that I haven't been able to discern yet?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Frank
>>
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