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BPMN2 [message #479143] Sun, 09 August 2009 19:20 Go to next message
Ryan  is currently offline Ryan Friend
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Is there some place that contains a status on this sub-project. The 'project' page is rather empty .

Regards,
Ryan
Re: BPMN2 [message #479148 is a reply to message #479143] Sun, 09 August 2009 19:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ryan,

You're referring to this home page?
<http://www.eclipse.org/bpmn/>

http://www.eclipse.org/bpmn/

It's part of the SOA Tools Platform not the Modeling Project:

http://eclipse.org/stp/

The navbar has this link so it has its own newsgroup where you can ask
questions:

http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/thread.php?group=eclipse.b pmn-modeler


Ryan wrote:
> Is there some place that contains a status on this sub-project. The
> 'project' page is rather empty .
>
> Regards,
> Ryan

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Ryan,<br>
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You're referring to this home page?<a
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<blockquote><a href="http://www.eclipse.org/bpmn/">http://www.eclipse.org/bpmn/</a><br>
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It's part of the SOA Tools Platform not the Modeling Project:<br>
<blockquote><a href="http://eclipse.org/stp/">http://eclipse.org/stp/</a><br>
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The navbar has this link so it has its own newsgroup where you can ask
questions:<br>
<blockquote><a
href=" http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/thread.php?group=eclipse.b pmn-modeler"> http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/thread.php?group=eclipse.b pmn-modeler</a><br>
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Regards,
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Re: BPMN2 [message #479160 is a reply to message #479148] Sun, 09 August 2009 23:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ryan  is currently offline Ryan Friend
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Ed,

Thanks for responding, but I think this is a separate project under the Model Development Tools (MDT) project.
Here are some eclipse sites that mention it:

http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/?project=bpmn2


Then the wiki:

http://wiki.eclipse.org/MDT-BPMN2

I found a proposal page, last updated august.2008
http://wiki.eclipse.org/MDT/BPMN2-Proposal

In the Relationship with Other Eclipse Projects/Components section of this proposal page, it references the STP BPMN project and mentions that they will work closely with it; so it sounds like this project was/is meant to be separate.

I found a developer list, but only 3 entries
http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/mdt-bpmn2.dev/maillist.html

A releng page that is sparse
http:// www.eclipse.org/projects/project_summary.php?projectid=model ing.mdt.bpmn2.releng

I am trying to find out if the project is still active and its' status.

Regards,
Ryan
Re: BPMN2 [message #479161 is a reply to message #479160] Mon, 10 August 2009 00:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed MerksFriend
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Ryan,

I overlooked the "2". :-P

I'll ask Kenn what's up but my guess would be not much of anything...


Ryan wrote:
> Ed,
>
> Thanks for responding, but I think this is a separate project under
> the Model Development Tools (MDT) project.
> Here are some eclipse sites that mention it:
>
> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/?project=bpmn2
>
>
> Then the wiki:
>
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/MDT-BPMN2
>
> I found a proposal page, last updated august.2008
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/MDT/BPMN2-Proposal
>
> In the Relationship with Other Eclipse Projects/Components section of
> this proposal page, it references the STP BPMN project and mentions
> that they will work closely with it; so it sounds like this project
> was/is meant to be separate.
>
> I found a developer list, but only 3 entries
> http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/mdt-bpmn2.dev/maillist. html
>
> A releng page that is sparse
> http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project_summary.php?projecti d=modeling.mdt.bpmn2.releng
>
>
> I am trying to find out if the project is still active and its' status.
>
> Regards,
> Ryan
>
Re: BPMN2 [message #479242 is a reply to message #479143] Mon, 10 August 2009 12:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kenn Hussey is currently offline Kenn HusseyFriend
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Ryan,

Progress on the BPMN2 project has stalled for various reasons, but now
that the specification has finally been adopted (as of June), there
should be some forward movement as part of the upcoming Helios
coordinated release of Eclipse.

Kenn

Ryan wrote:
> Is there some place that contains a status on this sub-project. The
> 'project' page is rather empty .
>
> Regards,
> Ryan
Re: BPMN2 [message #480130 is a reply to message #479242] Fri, 14 August 2009 01:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ryan  is currently offline Ryan Friend
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Kenn,

Thanks for providing a status update.

I looked on the OMG site and the only BPMN spec. they have published is version 1.2; so I guess version 2.0 is still in a review phase.

I did find a document dated May 22, 2009 that was a consortium submittal in response to the RFP. However, don't know what relationship it has to anything approved by OMG.

It is located at:
http://www.bpmnstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/BPMN%202-0%20Spe cification%20BMI%2009-05-03.pdf

If this document is close enough, or another document is available, I will be glad to work on creating a EMF model.

Please let me know if there is something I can do to help get this project started.

Regards,
Ryan
Re: BPMN2 [message #480512 is a reply to message #480130] Mon, 17 August 2009 12:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kenn Hussey is currently offline Kenn HusseyFriend
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Ryan,

I'm not sure how that document relates to the adopted draft either, but
I would expect the OMG to post an official adopted specification at some
point in the very near future.

Lots of folks are eager to use the metamodel once it is available, but
not so many are willing/able to contribute to implementing it. So, we
would gladly welcome your contribution in this area. I'll do some
digging to find out what the latest status of the specification is...

Kenn

Ryan wrote:
>
> Kenn,
>
> Thanks for providing a status update.
>
> I looked on the OMG site and the only BPMN spec. they have published is
> version 1.2; so I guess version 2.0 is still in a review phase.
>
> I did find a document dated May 22, 2009 that was a consortium submittal
> in response to the RFP. However, don't know what relationship it has to
> anything approved by OMG.
>
> It is located at:
> http://www.bpmnstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/BPMN%202-0%20Spe cification%20BMI%2009-05-03.pdf
>
>
> If this document is close enough, or another document is available, I
> will be glad to work on creating a EMF model.
>
> Please let me know if there is something I can do to help get this
> project started.
>
> Regards,
> Ryan
>
Re: BPMN2 [message #481164 is a reply to message #480512] Wed, 19 August 2009 21:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ryan  is currently offline Ryan Friend
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Kenn,

I will check with the omg site (weekly) until the specification is published, then let the list know.

Until it is published, I guess we wait.

Regards,
Ryan
Re: BPMN2 [message #483043 is a reply to message #481164] Sat, 29 August 2009 23:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As of 8/29 - still no document
Re: BPMN2 [message #485076 is a reply to message #483043] Thu, 10 September 2009 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kenn Hussey is currently offline Kenn HusseyFriend
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Ryan,

Sorry for the delay. I was finally able to track down the beta document
for the submission that was adopted in June. It can be found at
http://www.omg.org/cgi-bin/doc?dtc/09-08-14.

Kenn

Ryan wrote:
>
> As of 8/29 - still no document
Re: BPMN2 [message #545388 is a reply to message #479143] Wed, 07 July 2010 15:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Edaurd Bauer is currently offline Edaurd BauerFriend
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Hey everybody,

was there already made progress on that topic? I found the metamodel on https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=247456 But I have not found it on the web site (http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/?project=bpmn2). Can anybody give me an update?.

And additionally I have the question under which license it is released? (I am not very familiar with different licenses, I only was ordered to ask that question:))

Kind regards,
Ede
Re: BPMN2 [message #545397 is a reply to message #545388] Wed, 07 July 2010 15:47 Go to previous message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed MerksFriend
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Ede,

Please ask on the bugzilla to be sure Antoine sees your question.



Edaurd Bauer wrote:
> Hey everybody,
>
> was there already made progress on that topic? I found the metamodel
> on https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=247456 But I have not
> found it on the web site
> (http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/?project=bpmn2). Can anybody give
> me an update?.
>
> And additionally I have the question under which license it is
> released? (I am not very familiar with different licenses, I only was
> ordered to ask that question:))
>
> Kind regards,
> Ede
Re: BPMN2 [message #617758 is a reply to message #479148] Sun, 09 August 2009 23:05 Go to previous message
Ryan  is currently offline Ryan Friend
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Ed,

Thanks for responding, but I think this is a separate project under the Model Development Tools (MDT) project.
Here are some eclipse sites that mention it:

http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/?project=bpmn2


Then the wiki:

http://wiki.eclipse.org/MDT-BPMN2

I found a proposal page, last updated august.2008
http://wiki.eclipse.org/MDT/BPMN2-Proposal

In the Relationship with Other Eclipse Projects/Components section of this proposal page, it references the STP BPMN project and mentions that they will work closely with it; so it sounds like this project was/is meant to be separate.

I found a developer list, but only 3 entries
http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/mdt-bpmn2.dev/maillist. html

A releng page that is sparse
http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project_summary.php?projecti d=modeling.mdt.bpmn2.releng

I am trying to find out if the project is still active and its' status.

Regards,
Ryan
Re: BPMN2 [message #617759 is a reply to message #617758] Mon, 10 August 2009 00:10 Go to previous message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed MerksFriend
Messages: 26279
Registered: July 2009
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Ryan,

I overlooked the "2". :-P

I'll ask Kenn what's up but my guess would be not much of anything...


Ryan wrote:
> Ed,
>
> Thanks for responding, but I think this is a separate project under
> the Model Development Tools (MDT) project.
> Here are some eclipse sites that mention it:
>
> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/?project=bpmn2
>
>
> Then the wiki:
>
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/MDT-BPMN2
>
> I found a proposal page, last updated august.2008
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/MDT/BPMN2-Proposal
>
> In the Relationship with Other Eclipse Projects/Components section of
> this proposal page, it references the STP BPMN project and mentions
> that they will work closely with it; so it sounds like this project
> was/is meant to be separate.
>
> I found a developer list, but only 3 entries
> http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/mdt-bpmn2.dev/maillist. html
>
> A releng page that is sparse
> http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project_summary.php?projecti d=modeling.mdt.bpmn2.releng
>
>
> I am trying to find out if the project is still active and its' status.
>
> Regards,
> Ryan
>
Re: BPMN2 [message #617767 is a reply to message #479242] Fri, 14 August 2009 01:26 Go to previous message
Ryan  is currently offline Ryan Friend
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Kenn,

Thanks for providing a status update.

I looked on the OMG site and the only BPMN spec. they have published is version 1.2; so I guess version 2.0 is still in a review phase.

I did find a document dated May 22, 2009 that was a consortium submittal in response to the RFP. However, don't know what relationship it has to anything approved by OMG.

It is located at:
http://www.bpmnstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/BPMN%202-0%20Spe cification%20BMI%2009-05-03.pdf

If this document is close enough, or another document is available, I will be glad to work on creating a EMF model.

Please let me know if there is something I can do to help get this project started.

Regards,
Ryan
Re: BPMN2 [message #617781 is a reply to message #617767] Mon, 17 August 2009 12:54 Go to previous message
Kenn Hussey is currently offline Kenn HusseyFriend
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Ryan,

I'm not sure how that document relates to the adopted draft either, but
I would expect the OMG to post an official adopted specification at some
point in the very near future.

Lots of folks are eager to use the metamodel once it is available, but
not so many are willing/able to contribute to implementing it. So, we
would gladly welcome your contribution in this area. I'll do some
digging to find out what the latest status of the specification is...

Kenn

Ryan wrote:
>
> Kenn,
>
> Thanks for providing a status update.
>
> I looked on the OMG site and the only BPMN spec. they have published is
> version 1.2; so I guess version 2.0 is still in a review phase.
>
> I did find a document dated May 22, 2009 that was a consortium submittal
> in response to the RFP. However, don't know what relationship it has to
> anything approved by OMG.
>
> It is located at:
> http://www.bpmnstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/BPMN%202-0%20Spe cification%20BMI%2009-05-03.pdf
>
>
> If this document is close enough, or another document is available, I
> will be glad to work on creating a EMF model.
>
> Please let me know if there is something I can do to help get this
> project started.
>
> Regards,
> Ryan
>
Re: BPMN2 [message #617786 is a reply to message #480512] Wed, 19 August 2009 21:46 Go to previous message
Ryan  is currently offline Ryan Friend
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Kenn,

I will check with the omg site (weekly) until the specification is published, then let the list know.

Until it is published, I guess we wait.

Regards,
Ryan
Re: BPMN2 [message #617794 is a reply to message #617786] Sat, 29 August 2009 23:08 Go to previous message
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As of 8/29 - still no document
Re: BPMN2 [message #618211 is a reply to message #483043] Thu, 10 September 2009 13:40 Go to previous message
Kenn Hussey is currently offline Kenn HusseyFriend
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Ryan,

Sorry for the delay. I was finally able to track down the beta document
for the submission that was adopted in June. It can be found at
http://www.omg.org/cgi-bin/doc?dtc/09-08-14

Kenn

Ryan wrote:
>
> As of 8/29 - still no document
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