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How to deal with uml model fragments? [message #478636] Fri, 24 July 2009 11:17 Go to next message
steve orobec is currently offline steve orobec
Messages: 156
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Bill Hinge wrote:

I originally posted this to the uml2tools but I'm told it would be
better posted here, I was told it had been forwarded but it doesn't
seem to have appeared, hence reposting

regards
Steve

> Hi
>
> I have been given a folder full of RSM model fragments which were
> created from a very large class model.
>
> Other editors have created new model fragments in RSM with a view
> to integrating this back into the collective model.
>
> I am using uml2 and tools as part of my hybrid DSL (uml2 being another
> DSL). However, while I can load the uml fragments which were part of
> the original large class model, I get problems loading the the new uml
> fragment in that it errors with
> Resource:/long%20path%20name/blah%20.efx' does not exist.
>
>
>
> I get this error using load resource and the uml2 tree editor.
>
> Is there a workaround or do I need to create my own custom module to to
> handle this? I'm happy just to load the new fragment for manipulation
> and ignore any links to external packages. I get similar issues in other
> areas with bad links (the original model being an auto migration from RR)
>
>
> Also is it possible to write filters to strip out unwanted items being
> shown visually in the tree editor, load resource window etc ie just see
> packages, classes, attributes
>
>
> regards
> Steve
Re: How to deal with uml model fragments? [message #478637 is a reply to message #478636] Fri, 24 July 2009 11:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tas Frangoullides is currently offline Tas Frangoullides
Messages: 195
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Steve,

You don't mention if you are trying to use RSM or Eclipse to work with the
models. Fragmets not really a feature of the UML2 project and you are
probably better off working with them from RSM. I'd try laoding all the
models in RSM which has facilities for validting and fixing problems with
resoruces.

Hope that helps,
Tas




"Bill Hinge" <steve.orobec@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:h4cjb3$id0$1@build.eclipse.org...
> Bill Hinge wrote:
>
> I originally posted this to the uml2tools but I'm told it would be
> better posted here, I was told it had been forwarded but it doesn't
> seem to have appeared, hence reposting
>
> regards
> Steve
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I have been given a folder full of RSM model fragments which were
>> created from a very large class model.
>>
>> Other editors have created new model fragments in RSM with a view
>> to integrating this back into the collective model.
>>
>> I am using uml2 and tools as part of my hybrid DSL (uml2 being another
>> DSL). However, while I can load the uml fragments which were part of
>> the original large class model, I get problems loading the the new uml
>> fragment in that it errors with Resource:/long%20path%20name/blah%20.efx'
>> does not exist.
>>
>>
>>
>> I get this error using load resource and the uml2 tree editor.
>>
>> Is there a workaround or do I need to create my own custom module to to
>> handle this? I'm happy just to load the new fragment for manipulation
>> and ignore any links to external packages. I get similar issues in other
>> areas with bad links (the original model being an auto migration from RR)
>>
>>
>> Also is it possible to write filters to strip out unwanted items being
>> shown visually in the tree editor, load resource window etc ie just see
>> packages, classes, attributes
>>
>>
>> regards
>> Steve
Re: How to deal with uml model fragments? [message #478638 is a reply to message #478637] Fri, 24 July 2009 12:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
steve orobec is currently offline steve orobec
Messages: 156
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Tas

I see, I wasn't sure if fragment was a UML2 feature or an RSM feature,
I don't have access to RSM myself as I'm on OS X. The work I'm doing is
developing a DSL based soln as part of some standards work. Having a
common uml format between different tool vendors was a hope. The model
is split into fragments since it quite large but it seems to have issues
occasionally. I appreciate the quick answer, I guess that means I need
to consider my own workarounds to this problem. Most fragments do in
fact work with uml2tools - just that some have bombs in them!


By the way, is there any way of filtering out various uml2 artefacts
from Project Explorer when I select a uml file, ideally just showing
package, class, attribute? (ie not stereotypes, profiles, documentation
etc) If I could do thins I could be reasonably happy ;-)



regards
Steve



Tas Frangoullides wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> You don't mention if you are trying to use RSM or Eclipse to work with
> the models. Fragmets not really a feature of the UML2 project and you
> are probably better off working with them from RSM. I'd try laoding all
> the models in RSM which has facilities for validting and fixing problems
> with resoruces.
>
> Hope that helps,
> Tas
>
>
>
>
> "Bill Hinge" <steve.orobec@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
> news:h4cjb3$id0$1@build.eclipse.org...
>> Bill Hinge wrote:
>>
>> I originally posted this to the uml2tools but I'm told it would be
>> better posted here, I was told it had been forwarded but it doesn't
>> seem to have appeared, hence reposting
>>
>> regards
>> Steve
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I have been given a folder full of RSM model fragments which were
>>> created from a very large class model.
>>>
>>> Other editors have created new model fragments in RSM with a view
>>> to integrating this back into the collective model.
>>>
>>> I am using uml2 and tools as part of my hybrid DSL (uml2 being another
>>> DSL). However, while I can load the uml fragments which were part of
>>> the original large class model, I get problems loading the the new uml
>>> fragment in that it errors with
>>> Resource:/long%20path%20name/blah%20.efx' does not exist.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I get this error using load resource and the uml2 tree editor.
>>>
>>> Is there a workaround or do I need to create my own custom module to to
>>> handle this? I'm happy just to load the new fragment for manipulation
>>> and ignore any links to external packages. I get similar issues in other
>>> areas with bad links (the original model being an auto migration from
>>> RR)
>>>
>>>
>>> Also is it possible to write filters to strip out unwanted items
>>> being shown visually in the tree editor, load resource window etc ie
>>> just see
>>> packages, classes, attributes
>>>
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Steve
>
Re: How to deal with uml model fragments? [message #478639 is a reply to message #478638] Sat, 25 July 2009 04:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tas Frangoullides is currently offline Tas Frangoullides
Messages: 195
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Steve,

I haven't used uml2tools for a while as I use RSM so don't know what
features are available. I it has been implemented I guess it would be under
"customize view" in the project explorers drop down.

As far as achieving a common uml format I have found RSM and Eclipse UML2 to
be very interoperable which is no surprise but IBM have added a few bits
over the top which can make it awkward. Is it possible to have someone with
RSM export to UML2?

You could also try writing some simple code which uses the EMF
cross-referencer to find and fix problems with the files you have. However,
unless the integrity of these model is not important at the time, I'd try to
the problems fixed at the source.

Hope that helps,
Tas



"Bill Hinge" <steve.orobec@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:h4cn63$7l1$1@build.eclipse.org...
> Hi Tas
>
> I see, I wasn't sure if fragment was a UML2 feature or an RSM feature,
> I don't have access to RSM myself as I'm on OS X. The work I'm doing is
> developing a DSL based soln as part of some standards work. Having a
> common uml format between different tool vendors was a hope. The model
> is split into fragments since it quite large but it seems to have issues
> occasionally. I appreciate the quick answer, I guess that means I need to
> consider my own workarounds to this problem. Most fragments do in
> fact work with uml2tools - just that some have bombs in them!
>
>
> By the way, is there any way of filtering out various uml2 artefacts
> from Project Explorer when I select a uml file, ideally just showing
> package, class, attribute? (ie not stereotypes, profiles, documentation
> etc) If I could do thins I could be reasonably happy ;-)
>
>
>
> regards
> Steve
>
>
>
> Tas Frangoullides wrote:
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> You don't mention if you are trying to use RSM or Eclipse to work with
>> the models. Fragmets not really a feature of the UML2 project and you are
>> probably better off working with them from RSM. I'd try laoding all the
>> models in RSM which has facilities for validting and fixing problems with
>> resoruces.
>>
>> Hope that helps,
>> Tas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Bill Hinge" <steve.orobec@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:h4cjb3$id0$1@build.eclipse.org...
>>> Bill Hinge wrote:
>>>
>>> I originally posted this to the uml2tools but I'm told it would be
>>> better posted here, I was told it had been forwarded but it doesn't
>>> seem to have appeared, hence reposting
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I have been given a folder full of RSM model fragments which were
>>>> created from a very large class model.
>>>>
>>>> Other editors have created new model fragments in RSM with a view
>>>> to integrating this back into the collective model.
>>>>
>>>> I am using uml2 and tools as part of my hybrid DSL (uml2 being another
>>>> DSL). However, while I can load the uml fragments which were part of
>>>> the original large class model, I get problems loading the the new uml
>>>> fragment in that it errors with
>>>> Resource:/long%20path%20name/blah%20.efx' does not exist.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I get this error using load resource and the uml2 tree editor.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a workaround or do I need to create my own custom module to to
>>>> handle this? I'm happy just to load the new fragment for manipulation
>>>> and ignore any links to external packages. I get similar issues in
>>>> other
>>>> areas with bad links (the original model being an auto migration from
>>>> RR)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also is it possible to write filters to strip out unwanted items being
>>>> shown visually in the tree editor, load resource window etc ie just see
>>>> packages, classes, attributes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>> Steve
>>
Re: How to deal with uml model fragments? [message #478664 is a reply to message #478638] Tue, 04 August 2009 12:09 Go to previous message
Kenn Hussey is currently offline Kenn Hussey
Messages: 1618
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
To be clear, UML2 does support separation of models into several
resources (via the cross-containment mechanism provided by EMF). RSx
refers to such resources as "fragments" and provide support for being
able to determine the parent resource for a fragment (in the absence of
a bidirectional feature) and vice versa.

Kenn


Bill Hinge wrote:
> Hi Tas
>
> I see, I wasn't sure if fragment was a UML2 feature or an RSM feature,
> I don't have access to RSM myself as I'm on OS X. The work I'm doing is
> developing a DSL based soln as part of some standards work. Having a
> common uml format between different tool vendors was a hope. The model
> is split into fragments since it quite large but it seems to have issues
> occasionally. I appreciate the quick answer, I guess that means I need
> to consider my own workarounds to this problem. Most fragments do in
> fact work with uml2tools - just that some have bombs in them!
>
>
> By the way, is there any way of filtering out various uml2 artefacts
> from Project Explorer when I select a uml file, ideally just showing
> package, class, attribute? (ie not stereotypes, profiles, documentation
> etc) If I could do thins I could be reasonably happy ;-)
>
>
>
> regards
> Steve
>
>
>
> Tas Frangoullides wrote:
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> You don't mention if you are trying to use RSM or Eclipse to work with
>> the models. Fragmets not really a feature of the UML2 project and you
>> are probably better off working with them from RSM. I'd try laoding
>> all the models in RSM which has facilities for validting and fixing
>> problems with resoruces.
>>
>> Hope that helps,
>> Tas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Bill Hinge" <steve.orobec@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:h4cjb3$id0$1@build.eclipse.org...
>>> Bill Hinge wrote:
>>>
>>> I originally posted this to the uml2tools but I'm told it would be
>>> better posted here, I was told it had been forwarded but it doesn't
>>> seem to have appeared, hence reposting
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I have been given a folder full of RSM model fragments which were
>>>> created from a very large class model.
>>>>
>>>> Other editors have created new model fragments in RSM with a view
>>>> to integrating this back into the collective model.
>>>>
>>>> I am using uml2 and tools as part of my hybrid DSL (uml2 being another
>>>> DSL). However, while I can load the uml fragments which were part of
>>>> the original large class model, I get problems loading the the new uml
>>>> fragment in that it errors with
>>>> Resource:/long%20path%20name/blah%20.efx' does not exist.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I get this error using load resource and the uml2 tree editor.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a workaround or do I need to create my own custom module to to
>>>> handle this? I'm happy just to load the new fragment for manipulation
>>>> and ignore any links to external packages. I get similar issues in
>>>> other
>>>> areas with bad links (the original model being an auto migration
>>>> from RR)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also is it possible to write filters to strip out unwanted items
>>>> being shown visually in the tree editor, load resource window etc ie
>>>> just see
>>>> packages, classes, attributes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>> Steve
>>
Re: How to deal with uml model fragments? [message #627816 is a reply to message #478636] Fri, 24 July 2009 11:30 Go to previous message
Tas Frangoullides is currently offline Tas Frangoullides
Messages: 195
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Steve,

You don't mention if you are trying to use RSM or Eclipse to work with the
models. Fragmets not really a feature of the UML2 project and you are
probably better off working with them from RSM. I'd try laoding all the
models in RSM which has facilities for validting and fixing problems with
resoruces.

Hope that helps,
Tas




"Bill Hinge" <steve.orobec@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:h4cjb3$id0$1@build.eclipse.org...
> Bill Hinge wrote:
>
> I originally posted this to the uml2tools but I'm told it would be
> better posted here, I was told it had been forwarded but it doesn't
> seem to have appeared, hence reposting
>
> regards
> Steve
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I have been given a folder full of RSM model fragments which were
>> created from a very large class model.
>>
>> Other editors have created new model fragments in RSM with a view
>> to integrating this back into the collective model.
>>
>> I am using uml2 and tools as part of my hybrid DSL (uml2 being another
>> DSL). However, while I can load the uml fragments which were part of
>> the original large class model, I get problems loading the the new uml
>> fragment in that it errors with Resource:/long%20path%20name/blah%20.efx'
>> does not exist.
>>
>>
>>
>> I get this error using load resource and the uml2 tree editor.
>>
>> Is there a workaround or do I need to create my own custom module to to
>> handle this? I'm happy just to load the new fragment for manipulation
>> and ignore any links to external packages. I get similar issues in other
>> areas with bad links (the original model being an auto migration from RR)
>>
>>
>> Also is it possible to write filters to strip out unwanted items being
>> shown visually in the tree editor, load resource window etc ie just see
>> packages, classes, attributes
>>
>>
>> regards
>> Steve
Re: How to deal with uml model fragments? [message #627817 is a reply to message #478637] Fri, 24 July 2009 12:23 Go to previous message
steve orobec is currently offline steve orobec
Messages: 156
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Tas

I see, I wasn't sure if fragment was a UML2 feature or an RSM feature,
I don't have access to RSM myself as I'm on OS X. The work I'm doing is
developing a DSL based soln as part of some standards work. Having a
common uml format between different tool vendors was a hope. The model
is split into fragments since it quite large but it seems to have issues
occasionally. I appreciate the quick answer, I guess that means I need
to consider my own workarounds to this problem. Most fragments do in
fact work with uml2tools - just that some have bombs in them!


By the way, is there any way of filtering out various uml2 artefacts
from Project Explorer when I select a uml file, ideally just showing
package, class, attribute? (ie not stereotypes, profiles, documentation
etc) If I could do thins I could be reasonably happy ;-)



regards
Steve



Tas Frangoullides wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> You don't mention if you are trying to use RSM or Eclipse to work with
> the models. Fragmets not really a feature of the UML2 project and you
> are probably better off working with them from RSM. I'd try laoding all
> the models in RSM which has facilities for validting and fixing problems
> with resoruces.
>
> Hope that helps,
> Tas
>
>
>
>
> "Bill Hinge" <steve.orobec@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
> news:h4cjb3$id0$1@build.eclipse.org...
>> Bill Hinge wrote:
>>
>> I originally posted this to the uml2tools but I'm told it would be
>> better posted here, I was told it had been forwarded but it doesn't
>> seem to have appeared, hence reposting
>>
>> regards
>> Steve
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I have been given a folder full of RSM model fragments which were
>>> created from a very large class model.
>>>
>>> Other editors have created new model fragments in RSM with a view
>>> to integrating this back into the collective model.
>>>
>>> I am using uml2 and tools as part of my hybrid DSL (uml2 being another
>>> DSL). However, while I can load the uml fragments which were part of
>>> the original large class model, I get problems loading the the new uml
>>> fragment in that it errors with
>>> Resource:/long%20path%20name/blah%20.efx' does not exist.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I get this error using load resource and the uml2 tree editor.
>>>
>>> Is there a workaround or do I need to create my own custom module to to
>>> handle this? I'm happy just to load the new fragment for manipulation
>>> and ignore any links to external packages. I get similar issues in other
>>> areas with bad links (the original model being an auto migration from
>>> RR)
>>>
>>>
>>> Also is it possible to write filters to strip out unwanted items
>>> being shown visually in the tree editor, load resource window etc ie
>>> just see
>>> packages, classes, attributes
>>>
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Steve
>
Re: How to deal with uml model fragments? [message #627818 is a reply to message #478638] Sat, 25 July 2009 04:50 Go to previous message
Tas Frangoullides is currently offline Tas Frangoullides
Messages: 195
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Steve,

I haven't used uml2tools for a while as I use RSM so don't know what
features are available. I it has been implemented I guess it would be under
"customize view" in the project explorers drop down.

As far as achieving a common uml format I have found RSM and Eclipse UML2 to
be very interoperable which is no surprise but IBM have added a few bits
over the top which can make it awkward. Is it possible to have someone with
RSM export to UML2?

You could also try writing some simple code which uses the EMF
cross-referencer to find and fix problems with the files you have. However,
unless the integrity of these model is not important at the time, I'd try to
the problems fixed at the source.

Hope that helps,
Tas



"Bill Hinge" <steve.orobec@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:h4cn63$7l1$1@build.eclipse.org...
> Hi Tas
>
> I see, I wasn't sure if fragment was a UML2 feature or an RSM feature,
> I don't have access to RSM myself as I'm on OS X. The work I'm doing is
> developing a DSL based soln as part of some standards work. Having a
> common uml format between different tool vendors was a hope. The model
> is split into fragments since it quite large but it seems to have issues
> occasionally. I appreciate the quick answer, I guess that means I need to
> consider my own workarounds to this problem. Most fragments do in
> fact work with uml2tools - just that some have bombs in them!
>
>
> By the way, is there any way of filtering out various uml2 artefacts
> from Project Explorer when I select a uml file, ideally just showing
> package, class, attribute? (ie not stereotypes, profiles, documentation
> etc) If I could do thins I could be reasonably happy ;-)
>
>
>
> regards
> Steve
>
>
>
> Tas Frangoullides wrote:
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> You don't mention if you are trying to use RSM or Eclipse to work with
>> the models. Fragmets not really a feature of the UML2 project and you are
>> probably better off working with them from RSM. I'd try laoding all the
>> models in RSM which has facilities for validting and fixing problems with
>> resoruces.
>>
>> Hope that helps,
>> Tas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Bill Hinge" <steve.orobec@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:h4cjb3$id0$1@build.eclipse.org...
>>> Bill Hinge wrote:
>>>
>>> I originally posted this to the uml2tools but I'm told it would be
>>> better posted here, I was told it had been forwarded but it doesn't
>>> seem to have appeared, hence reposting
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I have been given a folder full of RSM model fragments which were
>>>> created from a very large class model.
>>>>
>>>> Other editors have created new model fragments in RSM with a view
>>>> to integrating this back into the collective model.
>>>>
>>>> I am using uml2 and tools as part of my hybrid DSL (uml2 being another
>>>> DSL). However, while I can load the uml fragments which were part of
>>>> the original large class model, I get problems loading the the new uml
>>>> fragment in that it errors with
>>>> Resource:/long%20path%20name/blah%20.efx' does not exist.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I get this error using load resource and the uml2 tree editor.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a workaround or do I need to create my own custom module to to
>>>> handle this? I'm happy just to load the new fragment for manipulation
>>>> and ignore any links to external packages. I get similar issues in
>>>> other
>>>> areas with bad links (the original model being an auto migration from
>>>> RR)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also is it possible to write filters to strip out unwanted items being
>>>> shown visually in the tree editor, load resource window etc ie just see
>>>> packages, classes, attributes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>> Steve
>>
Re: How to deal with uml model fragments? [message #627844 is a reply to message #478638] Tue, 04 August 2009 12:09 Go to previous message
Kenn Hussey is currently offline Kenn Hussey
Messages: 1618
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
To be clear, UML2 does support separation of models into several
resources (via the cross-containment mechanism provided by EMF). RSx
refers to such resources as "fragments" and provide support for being
able to determine the parent resource for a fragment (in the absence of
a bidirectional feature) and vice versa.

Kenn


Bill Hinge wrote:
> Hi Tas
>
> I see, I wasn't sure if fragment was a UML2 feature or an RSM feature,
> I don't have access to RSM myself as I'm on OS X. The work I'm doing is
> developing a DSL based soln as part of some standards work. Having a
> common uml format between different tool vendors was a hope. The model
> is split into fragments since it quite large but it seems to have issues
> occasionally. I appreciate the quick answer, I guess that means I need
> to consider my own workarounds to this problem. Most fragments do in
> fact work with uml2tools - just that some have bombs in them!
>
>
> By the way, is there any way of filtering out various uml2 artefacts
> from Project Explorer when I select a uml file, ideally just showing
> package, class, attribute? (ie not stereotypes, profiles, documentation
> etc) If I could do thins I could be reasonably happy ;-)
>
>
>
> regards
> Steve
>
>
>
> Tas Frangoullides wrote:
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> You don't mention if you are trying to use RSM or Eclipse to work with
>> the models. Fragmets not really a feature of the UML2 project and you
>> are probably better off working with them from RSM. I'd try laoding
>> all the models in RSM which has facilities for validting and fixing
>> problems with resoruces.
>>
>> Hope that helps,
>> Tas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Bill Hinge" <steve.orobec@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:h4cjb3$id0$1@build.eclipse.org...
>>> Bill Hinge wrote:
>>>
>>> I originally posted this to the uml2tools but I'm told it would be
>>> better posted here, I was told it had been forwarded but it doesn't
>>> seem to have appeared, hence reposting
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I have been given a folder full of RSM model fragments which were
>>>> created from a very large class model.
>>>>
>>>> Other editors have created new model fragments in RSM with a view
>>>> to integrating this back into the collective model.
>>>>
>>>> I am using uml2 and tools as part of my hybrid DSL (uml2 being another
>>>> DSL). However, while I can load the uml fragments which were part of
>>>> the original large class model, I get problems loading the the new uml
>>>> fragment in that it errors with
>>>> Resource:/long%20path%20name/blah%20.efx' does not exist.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I get this error using load resource and the uml2 tree editor.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a workaround or do I need to create my own custom module to to
>>>> handle this? I'm happy just to load the new fragment for manipulation
>>>> and ignore any links to external packages. I get similar issues in
>>>> other
>>>> areas with bad links (the original model being an auto migration
>>>> from RR)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also is it possible to write filters to strip out unwanted items
>>>> being shown visually in the tree editor, load resource window etc ie
>>>> just see
>>>> packages, classes, attributes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>> Steve
>>
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