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Extern [message #475613] Wed, 03 June 2009 07:10 Go to next message
Peter M is currently offline Peter M
Messages: 6
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Hi!

I'm searching for a way to combine the Eclipse-Help system in
Infocenter-mode and context sensitiv help. I already managed to setup an
Infocenter and to create local context-sensitv help. For now it seems
impossible to me to deploy the helpcontent on a external server but keep
the context functionality.

I read about remote help feature but didn't had any succes so far. Am i
searching in the right direction or is the goal unreachabel?

Thanks,
Peter
Re: Extern [message #475627 is a reply to message #475613] Wed, 03 June 2009 16:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Goldthorpe is currently offline Chris Goldthorpe
Messages: 815
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Remote help is indeed the feature you want. I you want to experiment
with remote help try setting the host to "help.eclipse.org" and the path
to "/ganymede" then click Help/Help Contents. That will pull in all the
help docs from eclipse.org. You can then substitute the host, path and
port with the values from your own infocenter.

Peter M wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I'm searching for a way to combine the Eclipse-Help system in
> Infocenter-mode and context sensitiv help. I already managed to setup an
> Infocenter and to create local context-sensitv help. For now it seems
> impossible to me to deploy the helpcontent on a external server but keep
> the context functionality.
> I read about remote help feature but didn't had any succes so far. Am i
> searching in the right direction or is the goal unreachabel?
>
> Thanks,
> Peter
>
Re: Extern [message #475634 is a reply to message #475627] Thu, 04 June 2009 03:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Peter M is currently offline Peter M
Messages: 6
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Hi there again,

very good to read that it was not all wrong until now. But I'm afraid I'll
need another hint on how to merge local and external help. I added the
following lines to my 'plugin_customization.ini' without effect:

org.eclipse.help.base/remoteHelpOn=true
org.eclipse.help.base/remoteHelpHost=localhost
org.eclipse.help.base/remoteHelpPath=/help
org.eclipse.help.base/remoteHelpUseDefaultPort=false
org.eclipse.help.base/remotHelpPort=8080

(I'm running a Tomcat server on my local machine providing the Infocenter.
Also tried to use "help.eclipse.org" and path "/ganymede" with default
port true)

From my product I'm calling the Help system by executing the command
org.eclipse.ui.help.helpContents. The Help System appears but without any
content.

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,
Peter
Re: Extern [message #475635 is a reply to message #475634] Fri, 05 June 2009 15:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Goldthorpe is currently offline Chris Goldthorpe
Messages: 815
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
There is a typo in "remotHelpPort".

Could that be the cause of the problem?

Peter M wrote:
> Hi there again,
>
> very good to read that it was not all wrong until now. But I'm afraid
> I'll need another hint on how to merge local and external help. I added
> the following lines to my 'plugin_customization.ini' without effect:
>
> org.eclipse.help.base/remoteHelpOn=true
> org.eclipse.help.base/remoteHelpHost=localhost
> org.eclipse.help.base/remoteHelpPath=/help
> org.eclipse.help.base/remoteHelpUseDefaultPort=false
> org.eclipse.help.base/remotHelpPort=8080
>
> (I'm running a Tomcat server on my local machine providing the
> Infocenter. Also tried to use "help.eclipse.org" and path "/ganymede"
> with default port true)
>
> From my product I'm calling the Help system by executing the command
> org.eclipse.ui.help.helpContents. The Help System appears but without
> any content.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Thanks,
> Peter
>
Re: Extern [message #475637 is a reply to message #475635] Mon, 08 June 2009 03:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Peter M is currently offline Peter M
Messages: 6
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Hi chris,

thank you for your reply. Unfortunately it was just mistyped in my last
message and it's still not working.

Further hints are welcome ;-).

Peter
Re: Extern [message #475639 is a reply to message #475634] Tue, 09 June 2009 13:31 Go to previous message
Chris Goldthorpe is currently offline Chris Goldthorpe
Messages: 815
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Without knowing more about your application it's difficult to know what
might be causing the problem, If you debug
org.eclipse.help.internal.base.remote.RemoteTocProvider.getT ocContributions(String)
you will probably be able to figure it out. One possibility is that in
your application the help system is running in infocenter mode, which
does not support remote help in Eclipse 3.4 (that restriction has been
lifted in Eclipse 3.5). Another is that pluginCustomization.ini is not
being read and you would need to change the config.ini file.


Peter M wrote:
> Hi there again,
>
> very good to read that it was not all wrong until now. But I'm afraid
> I'll need another hint on how to merge local and external help. I added
> the following lines to my 'plugin_customization.ini' without effect:
>
> org.eclipse.help.base/remoteHelpOn=true
> org.eclipse.help.base/remoteHelpHost=localhost
> org.eclipse.help.base/remoteHelpPath=/help
> org.eclipse.help.base/remoteHelpUseDefaultPort=false
> org.eclipse.help.base/remotHelpPort=8080
>
> (I'm running a Tomcat server on my local machine providing the
> Infocenter. Also tried to use "help.eclipse.org" and path "/ganymede"
> with default port true)
>
> From my product I'm calling the Help system by executing the command
> org.eclipse.ui.help.helpContents. The Help System appears but without
> any content.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Thanks,
> Peter
>
Re: Extern [message #623399 is a reply to message #475613] Wed, 03 June 2009 16:46 Go to previous message
Chris Goldthorpe is currently offline Chris Goldthorpe
Messages: 815
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Remote help is indeed the feature you want. I you want to experiment
with remote help try setting the host to "help.eclipse.org" and the path
to "/ganymede" then click Help/Help Contents. That will pull in all the
help docs from eclipse.org. You can then substitute the host, path and
port with the values from your own infocenter.

Peter M wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I'm searching for a way to combine the Eclipse-Help system in
> Infocenter-mode and context sensitiv help. I already managed to setup an
> Infocenter and to create local context-sensitv help. For now it seems
> impossible to me to deploy the helpcontent on a external server but keep
> the context functionality.
> I read about remote help feature but didn't had any succes so far. Am i
> searching in the right direction or is the goal unreachabel?
>
> Thanks,
> Peter
>
Re: Extern [message #623407 is a reply to message #475627] Thu, 04 June 2009 03:30 Go to previous message
Peter M is currently offline Peter M
Messages: 6
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Hi there again,

very good to read that it was not all wrong until now. But I'm afraid I'll
need another hint on how to merge local and external help. I added the
following lines to my 'plugin_customization.ini' without effect:

org.eclipse.help.base/remoteHelpOn=true
org.eclipse.help.base/remoteHelpHost=localhost
org.eclipse.help.base/remoteHelpPath=/help
org.eclipse.help.base/remoteHelpUseDefaultPort=false
org.eclipse.help.base/remotHelpPort=8080

(I'm running a Tomcat server on my local machine providing the Infocenter.
Also tried to use "help.eclipse.org" and path "/ganymede" with default
port true)

From my product I'm calling the Help system by executing the command
org.eclipse.ui.help.helpContents. The Help System appears but without any
content.

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,
Peter
Re: Extern [message #623409 is a reply to message #475634] Fri, 05 June 2009 15:25 Go to previous message
Chris Goldthorpe is currently offline Chris Goldthorpe
Messages: 815
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
There is a typo in "remotHelpPort".

Could that be the cause of the problem?

Peter M wrote:
> Hi there again,
>
> very good to read that it was not all wrong until now. But I'm afraid
> I'll need another hint on how to merge local and external help. I added
> the following lines to my 'plugin_customization.ini' without effect:
>
> org.eclipse.help.base/remoteHelpOn=true
> org.eclipse.help.base/remoteHelpHost=localhost
> org.eclipse.help.base/remoteHelpPath=/help
> org.eclipse.help.base/remoteHelpUseDefaultPort=false
> org.eclipse.help.base/remotHelpPort=8080
>
> (I'm running a Tomcat server on my local machine providing the
> Infocenter. Also tried to use "help.eclipse.org" and path "/ganymede"
> with default port true)
>
> From my product I'm calling the Help system by executing the command
> org.eclipse.ui.help.helpContents. The Help System appears but without
> any content.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Thanks,
> Peter
>
Re: Extern [message #623411 is a reply to message #475635] Mon, 08 June 2009 03:17 Go to previous message
Peter M is currently offline Peter M
Messages: 6
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Hi chris,

thank you for your reply. Unfortunately it was just mistyped in my last
message and it's still not working.

Further hints are welcome ;-).

Peter
Re: Extern [message #623413 is a reply to message #475634] Tue, 09 June 2009 13:31 Go to previous message
Chris Goldthorpe is currently offline Chris Goldthorpe
Messages: 815
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Without knowing more about your application it's difficult to know what
might be causing the problem, If you debug
org.eclipse.help.internal.base.remote.RemoteTocProvider.getT ocContributions(String)
you will probably be able to figure it out. One possibility is that in
your application the help system is running in infocenter mode, which
does not support remote help in Eclipse 3.4 (that restriction has been
lifted in Eclipse 3.5). Another is that pluginCustomization.ini is not
being read and you would need to change the config.ini file.


Peter M wrote:
> Hi there again,
>
> very good to read that it was not all wrong until now. But I'm afraid
> I'll need another hint on how to merge local and external help. I added
> the following lines to my 'plugin_customization.ini' without effect:
>
> org.eclipse.help.base/remoteHelpOn=true
> org.eclipse.help.base/remoteHelpHost=localhost
> org.eclipse.help.base/remoteHelpPath=/help
> org.eclipse.help.base/remoteHelpUseDefaultPort=false
> org.eclipse.help.base/remotHelpPort=8080
>
> (I'm running a Tomcat server on my local machine providing the
> Infocenter. Also tried to use "help.eclipse.org" and path "/ganymede"
> with default port true)
>
> From my product I'm calling the Help system by executing the command
> org.eclipse.ui.help.helpContents. The Help System appears but without
> any content.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Thanks,
> Peter
>
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