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Centralized Eclipse Help-System [message #473577] Fri, 18 April 2008 09:45 Go to next message
Christian Hager is currently offline Christian HagerFriend
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Hi all,

I'm trying to centralize the help-system of our rcp application and was
wondering if there is any possibility to move the whole helpsystem to a
server. There I was trying help in infocenter-mode, which works fine, but
in this case I couldn't get my F1-context-help to work. Since context-help
is an absolute must-have for me I was wondering if there is any way to
store help-content on a server but still use context-help?

On top of that I am also searching for a wiki-like way to maintain the
help-contents so people who are not developers can maintain the help
contents.

Has anyone ever done anything like this or any idea how to achive my goals?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Christian
Re: Centralized Eclipse Help-System [message #473586 is a reply to message #473577] Wed, 23 April 2008 16:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: nospam_kowalskilee.gmail.com

Hi Christian,

There I was trying help in infocenter-mode, which works fine,
> but in this case I couldn't get my F1-context-help to work.

What version of Eclipse are you using?

>
> On top of that I am also searching for a wiki-like way to maintain the
> help-contents so people who are not developers can maintain the help
> contents.
>
> Has anyone ever done anything like this or any idea how to achive my goals?

Are you envisioning a practice where:
a. Help content is served in infocenter mode.
b. People maintain the help content directly inside the running
infocenter by editing directly in the infocenter?

Or something multi-step:
a. Developers create the help contents and put into a wiki-like structure.
b. People in the developers' company, but not developers, maintain the
help contents in the wiki-like structure.
c. At scheduled times, the help contents gets piped out to the running
infocenter, where the final users see it?

I've seen some ideas floating around on how to do the multi-step
process. I haven't seen any implementation yet of direct wiki-like
function in Eclipse infocenter mode yet.

Best regards,
Lee Anne
Re: Centralized Eclipse Help-System [message #473588 is a reply to message #473577] Thu, 24 April 2008 00:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Goldthorpe is currently offline Chris GoldthorpeFriend
Messages: 815
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
One thing you might consider is using remote help, which allows the
content from one infocenter to be included in the help content for an
instance of Eclipse, see
http://help.eclipse.org/help33/topic/org.eclipse.platform.do c.isv/guide/ua_help_content_remote.htm

This allows you to keep one central set of documents so that every
client will get their help data, including context help from that one
server.
Re: Centralized Eclipse Help-System [message #473589 is a reply to message #473586] Thu, 24 April 2008 07:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Christian Hager is currently offline Christian HagerFriend
Messages: 52
Registered: July 2009
Location: Germany
Member
Hi Lee Anne

> What version of Eclipse are you using?
I'm using Eclipse 3.3.2

> Are you envisioning a practice where:
> a. Help content is served in infocenter mode.
> b. People maintain the help content directly inside the running
> infocenter by editing directly in the infocenter?
This would be the perfect solution

> Or something multi-step:
> a. Developers create the help contents and put into a wiki-like structure.
> b. People in the developers' company, but not developers, maintain the
> help contents in the wiki-like structure.
> c. At scheduled times, the help contents gets piped out to the running
> infocenter, where the final users see it?
But something multistep would be better than nothing. Do you have any
advice or links how this can be done?

Best regards,
Christian
Re: Centralized Eclipse Help-System [message #473590 is a reply to message #473588] Thu, 24 April 2008 07:55 Go to previous message
Christian Hager is currently offline Christian HagerFriend
Messages: 52
Registered: July 2009
Location: Germany
Member
Hi Chris,

thanks for the tip. I did already try running an Infocenter but I didn't
put the the context.xml in the Infocenter. I tried it and it works fine.
So now I only have to bind the contextual help to the widgets.

Best regards,
Christian
Re: Centralized Eclipse Help-System [message #612020 is a reply to message #473577] Wed, 23 April 2008 16:46 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: nospam_kowalskilee.gmail.com

Hi Christian,

There I was trying help in infocenter-mode, which works fine,
> but in this case I couldn't get my F1-context-help to work.

What version of Eclipse are you using?

>
> On top of that I am also searching for a wiki-like way to maintain the
> help-contents so people who are not developers can maintain the help
> contents.
>
> Has anyone ever done anything like this or any idea how to achive my goals?

Are you envisioning a practice where:
a. Help content is served in infocenter mode.
b. People maintain the help content directly inside the running
infocenter by editing directly in the infocenter?

Or something multi-step:
a. Developers create the help contents and put into a wiki-like structure.
b. People in the developers' company, but not developers, maintain the
help contents in the wiki-like structure.
c. At scheduled times, the help contents gets piped out to the running
infocenter, where the final users see it?

I've seen some ideas floating around on how to do the multi-step
process. I haven't seen any implementation yet of direct wiki-like
function in Eclipse infocenter mode yet.

Best regards,
Lee Anne
Re: Centralized Eclipse Help-System [message #612024 is a reply to message #473577] Thu, 24 April 2008 00:58 Go to previous message
Chris Goldthorpe is currently offline Chris GoldthorpeFriend
Messages: 815
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
One thing you might consider is using remote help, which allows the
content from one infocenter to be included in the help content for an
instance of Eclipse, see
http://help.eclipse.org/help33/topic/org.eclipse.platform.do c.isv/guide/ua_help_content_remote.htm

This allows you to keep one central set of documents so that every
client will get their help data, including context help from that one
server.
Re: Centralized Eclipse Help-System [message #612025 is a reply to message #473586] Thu, 24 April 2008 07:34 Go to previous message
Christian Hager is currently offline Christian HagerFriend
Messages: 52
Registered: July 2009
Location: Germany
Member
Hi Lee Anne

> What version of Eclipse are you using?
I'm using Eclipse 3.3.2

> Are you envisioning a practice where:
> a. Help content is served in infocenter mode.
> b. People maintain the help content directly inside the running
> infocenter by editing directly in the infocenter?
This would be the perfect solution

> Or something multi-step:
> a. Developers create the help contents and put into a wiki-like structure.
> b. People in the developers' company, but not developers, maintain the
> help contents in the wiki-like structure.
> c. At scheduled times, the help contents gets piped out to the running
> infocenter, where the final users see it?
But something multistep would be better than nothing. Do you have any
advice or links how this can be done?

Best regards,
Christian
Re: Centralized Eclipse Help-System [message #612027 is a reply to message #473588] Thu, 24 April 2008 07:55 Go to previous message
Christian Hager is currently offline Christian HagerFriend
Messages: 52
Registered: July 2009
Location: Germany
Member
Hi Chris,

thanks for the tip. I did already try running an Infocenter but I didn't
put the the context.xml in the Infocenter. I tried it and it works fine.
So now I only have to bind the contextual help to the widgets.

Best regards,
Christian
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