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n-ary associations, association classes [message #472185] Mon, 07 January 2008 13:29 Go to next message
Felix Dorner is currently offline Felix Dorner
Messages: 675
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hey,

somewhere up in this newsgroup I read that Association Classes are only
supported in the 0.8RC3 release. Will I be able to use this feature
with the current eclipse stable release? Or will I need to do an
experimental setup using eclipse 3.4 builds? If so, whats the simplest
way to do this? Do i just download all the projects mentioned in the
build-dependencies of 0.8RC3 manually?

Thanks for any help,
Felix
Re: n-ary associations, association classes [message #472186 is a reply to message #472185] Mon, 07 January 2008 14:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave Carlson is currently offline Dave Carlson
Messages: 399
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Felix,
According to the schedule, M4 stable build is due on Wed this week.
Although this date is suspect due to the very low volume of CVS commits in
the past few weeks...

Also, I have successfully used a build from the latest CVS head installed in
Eclipse 3.3. So you may not need a 3.4 platform to use the diagrams.

Dave

"Felix Dorner" <felix_do@web.de> wrote in message
news:20080107192905.1d4c4ffd@serenity...
> Hey,
>
> somewhere up in this newsgroup I read that Association Classes are only
> supported in the 0.8RC3 release. Will I be able to use this feature
> with the current eclipse stable release? Or will I need to do an
> experimental setup using eclipse 3.4 builds? If so, whats the simplest
> way to do this? Do i just download all the projects mentioned in the
> build-dependencies of 0.8RC3 manually?
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Felix
Re: n-ary associations, association classes [message #472187 is a reply to message #472186] Mon, 07 January 2008 16:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Felix Dorner is currently offline Felix Dorner
Messages: 675
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hey,

I _think_ I managed to create an eclipse 3.4 setup that includes the
latest eclipse 3.4 builds from any of the depending projects. At least
I get no suspect errors.

Did you manage to create an association class diagramatically
with the rc3 release? I can create the class, but don't figure how to
connect it to an association. I did not yet try to init a diagram from
a model file.

I also do not figure how to create n-ary associations that are
connected through the standard rhombus notation. How did you do it?


Felix



> Felix,
> According to the schedule, M4 stable build is due on Wed this week.
> Although this date is suspect due to the very low volume of CVS
> commits in the past few weeks...
>
> Also, I have successfully used a build from the latest CVS head
> installed in Eclipse 3.3. So you may not need a 3.4 platform to use
> the diagrams.
Re: n-ary associations, association classes [message #472253 is a reply to message #472187] Fri, 11 January 2008 08:23 Go to previous message
Michael Golubev is currently offline Michael Golubev
Messages: 373
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hello Felix,

Hope you have found a way to create association classes in M4 :).

We are actually supporting binary associations only, it is possible to model
N-ary associations with corresponding (empty) association class only.

We can probably add support for them in the same sense as for generalization
sets.
That is, when user initially connects 2 classifiers with association tool,
the default "line" notation is used for binary case (as it is done now),
but drawing the connection with the same tool from 3rd classifier to existing
association replaces it with rhomb-no-class n-ary notation. If you feel it
is what you need, please submit bugzilla for this.

Regards,
Michael

>
> I _think_ I managed to create an eclipse 3.4 setup that includes the
> latest eclipse 3.4 builds from any of the depending projects. At least
> I get no suspect errors.
>
> Did you manage to create an association class diagramatically
> with the rc3 release? I can create the class, but don't figure how to
> connect it to an association. I did not yet try to init a diagram from
> a model file.
> I also do not figure how to create n-ary associations that are
> connected through the standard rhombus notation. How did you do it?
>
> Felix
>
>> Felix,
>> According to the schedule, M4 stable build is due on Wed this week.
>> Although this date is suspect due to the very low volume of CVS
>> commits in the past few weeks...
>> Also, I have successfully used a build from the latest CVS head
>> installed in Eclipse 3.3. So you may not need a 3.4 platform to use
>> the diagrams.
>>
Re: n-ary associations, association classes [message #615663 is a reply to message #472185] Mon, 07 January 2008 14:20 Go to previous message
Dave Carlson is currently offline Dave Carlson
Messages: 399
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Felix,
According to the schedule, M4 stable build is due on Wed this week.
Although this date is suspect due to the very low volume of CVS commits in
the past few weeks...

Also, I have successfully used a build from the latest CVS head installed in
Eclipse 3.3. So you may not need a 3.4 platform to use the diagrams.

Dave

"Felix Dorner" <felix_do@web.de> wrote in message
news:20080107192905.1d4c4ffd@serenity...
> Hey,
>
> somewhere up in this newsgroup I read that Association Classes are only
> supported in the 0.8RC3 release. Will I be able to use this feature
> with the current eclipse stable release? Or will I need to do an
> experimental setup using eclipse 3.4 builds? If so, whats the simplest
> way to do this? Do i just download all the projects mentioned in the
> build-dependencies of 0.8RC3 manually?
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Felix
Re: n-ary associations, association classes [message #615664 is a reply to message #472186] Mon, 07 January 2008 16:02 Go to previous message
Felix Dorner is currently offline Felix Dorner
Messages: 675
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hey,

I _think_ I managed to create an eclipse 3.4 setup that includes the
latest eclipse 3.4 builds from any of the depending projects. At least
I get no suspect errors.

Did you manage to create an association class diagramatically
with the rc3 release? I can create the class, but don't figure how to
connect it to an association. I did not yet try to init a diagram from
a model file.

I also do not figure how to create n-ary associations that are
connected through the standard rhombus notation. How did you do it?


Felix



> Felix,
> According to the schedule, M4 stable build is due on Wed this week.
> Although this date is suspect due to the very low volume of CVS
> commits in the past few weeks...
>
> Also, I have successfully used a build from the latest CVS head
> installed in Eclipse 3.3. So you may not need a 3.4 platform to use
> the diagrams.
Re: n-ary associations, association classes [message #615752 is a reply to message #472187] Fri, 11 January 2008 08:23 Go to previous message
Michael Golubev is currently offline Michael Golubev
Messages: 373
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hello Felix,

Hope you have found a way to create association classes in M4 :).

We are actually supporting binary associations only, it is possible to model
N-ary associations with corresponding (empty) association class only.

We can probably add support for them in the same sense as for generalization
sets.
That is, when user initially connects 2 classifiers with association tool,
the default "line" notation is used for binary case (as it is done now),
but drawing the connection with the same tool from 3rd classifier to existing
association replaces it with rhomb-no-class n-ary notation. If you feel it
is what you need, please submit bugzilla for this.

Regards,
Michael

>
> I _think_ I managed to create an eclipse 3.4 setup that includes the
> latest eclipse 3.4 builds from any of the depending projects. At least
> I get no suspect errors.
>
> Did you manage to create an association class diagramatically
> with the rc3 release? I can create the class, but don't figure how to
> connect it to an association. I did not yet try to init a diagram from
> a model file.
> I also do not figure how to create n-ary associations that are
> connected through the standard rhombus notation. How did you do it?
>
> Felix
>
>> Felix,
>> According to the schedule, M4 stable build is due on Wed this week.
>> Although this date is suspect due to the very low volume of CVS
>> commits in the past few weeks...
>> Also, I have successfully used a build from the latest CVS head
>> installed in Eclipse 3.3. So you may not need a 3.4 platform to use
>> the diagrams.
>>
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