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JSF/EMF integration in Web Tools Project [message #469918] Sat, 06 August 2005 19:58 Go to next message
Glenn Silverman is currently offline Glenn SilvermanFriend
Messages: 19
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
I've written several web applications using Eclipse Modeling Framework
models to provide managed beans for JSF applications.

This combination allows one to create complex enterprise web data
applications quickly using the EMF reflective api and built-in
serialization.

I even use EMF's ItemProviderAdapters, EditingDomain and Command
creation facilities.

Using JSF, JET and an XMI file, one should be able to generate a
full-scale top-to-bottom application. I've used XDoclet with success for
some JSF code generation.

If you're interested, I'd be happy to share my efforts and assist in any
way to create the required plugins for the Web Tools Project.

Glenn...
Re: JSF/EMF integration in Web Tools Project [message #469923 is a reply to message #469918] Tue, 09 August 2005 17:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Raghu Srinivasan is currently offline Raghu SrinivasanFriend
Messages: 265
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Glenn Silverman wrote:
> I've written several web applications using Eclipse Modeling Framework
> models to provide managed beans for JSF applications.
>
> This combination allows one to create complex enterprise web data
> applications quickly using the EMF reflective api and built-in
> serialization.
>
> I even use EMF's ItemProviderAdapters, EditingDomain and Command
> creation facilities.
>
> Using JSF, JET and an XMI file, one should be able to generate a
> full-scale top-to-bottom application. I've used XDoclet with success for
> some JSF code generation.
>
> If you're interested, I'd be happy to share my efforts and assist in any
> way to create the required plugins for the Web Tools Project.
>
> Glenn...
Hi Glenn,

Thanks for participating in the JSF project.

Your idea of using EMF to generate a full-fledged application is very
interesting and useful. However, this is not in the scope of the JSF
tooling project. Instead, I would like you to consume the services
provided by the JSF framework to help you in the generation.

I would like to know if you would be interested in contributing to the
JSF project in helping define the framework services or in any other area.

-Raghu


Raghu Srinivasan,
Project Lead - JSF
Re: JSF/EMF integration in Web Tools Project [message #469930 is a reply to message #469923] Wed, 10 August 2005 05:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Glenn Silverman is currently offline Glenn SilvermanFriend
Messages: 19
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Raghu Srinivasan wrote:

> Glenn Silverman wrote:
>
>> I've written several web applications using Eclipse Modeling Framework
>> models to provide managed beans for JSF applications.
>>
>> This combination allows one to create complex enterprise web data
>> applications quickly using the EMF reflective api and built-in
>> serialization.
>>
>> I even use EMF's ItemProviderAdapters, EditingDomain and Command
>> creation facilities.
>>
>> Using JSF, JET and an XMI file, one should be able to generate a
>> full-scale top-to-bottom application. I've used XDoclet with success
>> for some JSF code generation.
>>
>> If you're interested, I'd be happy to share my efforts and assist in
>> any way to create the required plugins for the Web Tools Project.
>>
>> Glenn...
>
> Hi Glenn,
>
> Thanks for participating in the JSF project.
>
> Your idea of using EMF to generate a full-fledged application is very
> interesting and useful. However, this is not in the scope of the JSF
> tooling project. Instead, I would like you to consume the services
> provided by the JSF framework to help you in the generation.
>
> I would like to know if you would be interested in contributing to the
> JSF project in helping define the framework services or in any other area.
>
> -Raghu
Hello Raghu,

I would be delighted to contribute in any way. I'm new to your
contribution process so any heads up on where the most help is needed
would be appreciated. By the way, I'm currently using WTP 0.7 for my JSF
projects already.

I manually import the jsf and other jars into the WEB-INF/lib directory,
but programmatically this should be a snap.

Re: proposal for a full-blown graphical editor - to me, doesn't
facilitate JSF programming. Automatic component layout is one of the
built-in features of JSF and is best manipulated directly in the JSF
file. Better to provide component property editing. Clicking on a
component in context should allow for needed control.

Some useful css skins for tables and data entry forms could also be
included.

Don't forget support for Tile.

Glenn...
Re: JSF/EMF integration in Web Tools Project [message #470381 is a reply to message #469930] Wed, 10 August 2005 13:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Igor Shabalov is currently offline Igor ShabalovFriend
Messages: 38
Registered: July 2009
Member
Speaking about Tiles, I think it would be better to support Shale, however,
I agree with Arthur's comment about support for standard technologies. See
"Shale support" thread.

Best,
Igor.


"Glenn Silverman" <glancey3@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ddc23n$j6q$1@news.eclipse.org...
> Raghu Srinivasan wrote:
>
>> Glenn Silverman wrote:
>>
>>> I've written several web applications using Eclipse Modeling Framework
>>> models to provide managed beans for JSF applications.
>>>
>>> This combination allows one to create complex enterprise web data
>>> applications quickly using the EMF reflective api and built-in
>>> serialization.
>>>
>>> I even use EMF's ItemProviderAdapters, EditingDomain and Command
>>> creation facilities.
>>>
>>> Using JSF, JET and an XMI file, one should be able to generate a
>>> full-scale top-to-bottom application. I've used XDoclet with success for
>>> some JSF code generation.
>>>
>>> If you're interested, I'd be happy to share my efforts and assist in any
>>> way to create the required plugins for the Web Tools Project.
>>>
>>> Glenn...
>>
>> Hi Glenn,
>>
>> Thanks for participating in the JSF project.
>>
>> Your idea of using EMF to generate a full-fledged application is very
>> interesting and useful. However, this is not in the scope of the JSF
>> tooling project. Instead, I would like you to consume the services
>> provided by the JSF framework to help you in the generation.
>>
>> I would like to know if you would be interested in contributing to the
>> JSF project in helping define the framework services or in any other
>> area.
>>
>> -Raghu
> Hello Raghu,
>
> I would be delighted to contribute in any way. I'm new to your
> contribution process so any heads up on where the most help is needed
> would be appreciated. By the way, I'm currently using WTP 0.7 for my JSF
> projects already.
>
> I manually import the jsf and other jars into the WEB-INF/lib directory,
> but programmatically this should be a snap.
>
> Re: proposal for a full-blown graphical editor - to me, doesn't facilitate
> JSF programming. Automatic component layout is one of the built-in
> features of JSF and is best manipulated directly in the JSF file. Better
> to provide component property editing. Clicking on a component in context
> should allow for needed control.
>
> Some useful css skins for tables and data entry forms could also be
> included.
>
> Don't forget support for Tile.
>
> Glenn...
Re: JSF/EMF integration in Web Tools Project [message #470382 is a reply to message #470381] Wed, 10 August 2005 18:41 Go to previous message
Arthur Ryman is currently offline Arthur RymanFriend
Messages: 92
Registered: July 2009
Member
Igor Shabalov wrote:
> Speaking about Tiles, I think it would be better to support Shale, however,
> I agree with Arthur's comment about support for standard technologies. See
> "Shale support" thread.
>
> Best,
> Igor.

Agreed.

Glen - we need to observe the current scope of the JST subproject.
However, if there is something we need to do to enable Tiles support, we
can do that. Our goal is to provide a platform that other projects can
extend, e.g. a Tiles project.

-- Arthur
Re: JSF/EMF integration in Web Tools Project [message #570606 is a reply to message #469918] Tue, 09 August 2005 17:19 Go to previous message
Raghu Srinivasan is currently offline Raghu SrinivasanFriend
Messages: 265
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Glenn Silverman wrote:
> I've written several web applications using Eclipse Modeling Framework
> models to provide managed beans for JSF applications.
>
> This combination allows one to create complex enterprise web data
> applications quickly using the EMF reflective api and built-in
> serialization.
>
> I even use EMF's ItemProviderAdapters, EditingDomain and Command
> creation facilities.
>
> Using JSF, JET and an XMI file, one should be able to generate a
> full-scale top-to-bottom application. I've used XDoclet with success for
> some JSF code generation.
>
> If you're interested, I'd be happy to share my efforts and assist in any
> way to create the required plugins for the Web Tools Project.
>
> Glenn...
Hi Glenn,

Thanks for participating in the JSF project.

Your idea of using EMF to generate a full-fledged application is very
interesting and useful. However, this is not in the scope of the JSF
tooling project. Instead, I would like you to consume the services
provided by the JSF framework to help you in the generation.

I would like to know if you would be interested in contributing to the
JSF project in helping define the framework services or in any other area.

-Raghu


Raghu Srinivasan,
Project Lead - JSF
Re: JSF/EMF integration in Web Tools Project [message #570706 is a reply to message #469923] Wed, 10 August 2005 05:06 Go to previous message
Glenn Silverman is currently offline Glenn SilvermanFriend
Messages: 19
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Raghu Srinivasan wrote:

> Glenn Silverman wrote:
>
>> I've written several web applications using Eclipse Modeling Framework
>> models to provide managed beans for JSF applications.
>>
>> This combination allows one to create complex enterprise web data
>> applications quickly using the EMF reflective api and built-in
>> serialization.
>>
>> I even use EMF's ItemProviderAdapters, EditingDomain and Command
>> creation facilities.
>>
>> Using JSF, JET and an XMI file, one should be able to generate a
>> full-scale top-to-bottom application. I've used XDoclet with success
>> for some JSF code generation.
>>
>> If you're interested, I'd be happy to share my efforts and assist in
>> any way to create the required plugins for the Web Tools Project.
>>
>> Glenn...
>
> Hi Glenn,
>
> Thanks for participating in the JSF project.
>
> Your idea of using EMF to generate a full-fledged application is very
> interesting and useful. However, this is not in the scope of the JSF
> tooling project. Instead, I would like you to consume the services
> provided by the JSF framework to help you in the generation.
>
> I would like to know if you would be interested in contributing to the
> JSF project in helping define the framework services or in any other area.
>
> -Raghu
Hello Raghu,

I would be delighted to contribute in any way. I'm new to your
contribution process so any heads up on where the most help is needed
would be appreciated. By the way, I'm currently using WTP 0.7 for my JSF
projects already.

I manually import the jsf and other jars into the WEB-INF/lib directory,
but programmatically this should be a snap.

Re: proposal for a full-blown graphical editor - to me, doesn't
facilitate JSF programming. Automatic component layout is one of the
built-in features of JSF and is best manipulated directly in the JSF
file. Better to provide component property editing. Clicking on a
component in context should allow for needed control.

Some useful css skins for tables and data entry forms could also be
included.

Don't forget support for Tile.

Glenn...
Re: JSF/EMF integration in Web Tools Project [message #571976 is a reply to message #469930] Wed, 10 August 2005 13:15 Go to previous message
Igor Shabalov is currently offline Igor ShabalovFriend
Messages: 38
Registered: July 2009
Member
Speaking about Tiles, I think it would be better to support Shale, however,
I agree with Arthur's comment about support for standard technologies. See
"Shale support" thread.

Best,
Igor.


"Glenn Silverman" <glancey3@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ddc23n$j6q$1@news.eclipse.org...
> Raghu Srinivasan wrote:
>
>> Glenn Silverman wrote:
>>
>>> I've written several web applications using Eclipse Modeling Framework
>>> models to provide managed beans for JSF applications.
>>>
>>> This combination allows one to create complex enterprise web data
>>> applications quickly using the EMF reflective api and built-in
>>> serialization.
>>>
>>> I even use EMF's ItemProviderAdapters, EditingDomain and Command
>>> creation facilities.
>>>
>>> Using JSF, JET and an XMI file, one should be able to generate a
>>> full-scale top-to-bottom application. I've used XDoclet with success for
>>> some JSF code generation.
>>>
>>> If you're interested, I'd be happy to share my efforts and assist in any
>>> way to create the required plugins for the Web Tools Project.
>>>
>>> Glenn...
>>
>> Hi Glenn,
>>
>> Thanks for participating in the JSF project.
>>
>> Your idea of using EMF to generate a full-fledged application is very
>> interesting and useful. However, this is not in the scope of the JSF
>> tooling project. Instead, I would like you to consume the services
>> provided by the JSF framework to help you in the generation.
>>
>> I would like to know if you would be interested in contributing to the
>> JSF project in helping define the framework services or in any other
>> area.
>>
>> -Raghu
> Hello Raghu,
>
> I would be delighted to contribute in any way. I'm new to your
> contribution process so any heads up on where the most help is needed
> would be appreciated. By the way, I'm currently using WTP 0.7 for my JSF
> projects already.
>
> I manually import the jsf and other jars into the WEB-INF/lib directory,
> but programmatically this should be a snap.
>
> Re: proposal for a full-blown graphical editor - to me, doesn't facilitate
> JSF programming. Automatic component layout is one of the built-in
> features of JSF and is best manipulated directly in the JSF file. Better
> to provide component property editing. Clicking on a component in context
> should allow for needed control.
>
> Some useful css skins for tables and data entry forms could also be
> included.
>
> Don't forget support for Tile.
>
> Glenn...
Re: JSF/EMF integration in Web Tools Project [message #572009 is a reply to message #470381] Wed, 10 August 2005 18:41 Go to previous message
Arthur Ryman is currently offline Arthur RymanFriend
Messages: 92
Registered: July 2009
Member
Igor Shabalov wrote:
> Speaking about Tiles, I think it would be better to support Shale, however,
> I agree with Arthur's comment about support for standard technologies. See
> "Shale support" thread.
>
> Best,
> Igor.

Agreed.

Glen - we need to observe the current scope of the JST subproject.
However, if there is something we need to do to enable Tiles support, we
can do that. Our goal is to provide a platform that other projects can
extend, e.g. a Tiles project.

-- Arthur
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