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fusion with topcased? [message #469847] Sun, 10 May 2009 20:48 Go to next message
Johannes Kleinlercher is currently offline Johannes KleinlercherFriend
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Registered: July 2009
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Hi,

from the papyrus proposal it looked like this project will merge with
topcased. At least some topcased project leaders participate also in this
project. What is the product plan concerning papyrus, papyrusuml (aka old
papyrus) and topcased? will they merge? if not, is it still worth using
topcased?

Until know in my opinion topcased is better (at least concerning features
and documention) but if papyrus is pushed by eclipse maybe it is better in
the long-term?
Re: fusion with topcased? [message #469848 is a reply to message #469847] Mon, 11 May 2009 06:43 Go to previous message
Raphael Faudou is currently offline Raphael FaudouFriend
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Hi Johannes,


Johannes Kleinlercher a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> from the papyrus proposal it looked like this project will merge with
> topcased. At least some topcased project leaders participate also in
> this project.
Yes, we do
What is the product plan concerning papyrus, papyrusuml
> (aka old papyrus) and topcased? will they merge?
Old Papyrus, Topcased and Moskitt teams join their forces to deliver a
usable uml modelling tool for the Eclipse Modeling projet.
As soon as it will be mature enough, it will be integrated into TOPCASED
toolkit as the new generation UML component.
if not, is it still
> worth using topcased?
If you need a UML tool, just stay in touch with MDT Papyrus and switch
as soon as you find it mature enought for your requirements.
If you look for a complete environment to develop a system with a model
driven approach you will probably need all stuff around modelling
(simulation, formal checking, requirement traceability...) and then
Topcased will provide this stuff: with GEF UML editor for now and with
MDT papyrus integrated UML editor in 6 to 8 months (we hope).
>
> Until know in my opinion topcased is better (at least concerning
> features and documention) but if papyrus is pushed by eclipse maybe it
> is better in the long-term?
>
we will do the best to ensure high quality for MDT papyrus for two reasons:
1/ we want this tool to be the reference UML tool of the Eclipse
foundation.
2/ We want this tool to be integrated into Topcased and to conform to
Topcased quality kit

best regards

raphaël Faudou
TOPCASED/MDT Papyrus team
Re: fusion with topcased? [message #584734 is a reply to message #469847] Mon, 11 May 2009 06:43 Go to previous message
Raphael Faudou is currently offline Raphael FaudouFriend
Messages: 86
Registered: July 2009
Member
Hi Johannes,


Johannes Kleinlercher a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> from the papyrus proposal it looked like this project will merge with
> topcased. At least some topcased project leaders participate also in
> this project.
Yes, we do
What is the product plan concerning papyrus, papyrusuml
> (aka old papyrus) and topcased? will they merge?
Old Papyrus, Topcased and Moskitt teams join their forces to deliver a
usable uml modelling tool for the Eclipse Modeling projet.
As soon as it will be mature enough, it will be integrated into TOPCASED
toolkit as the new generation UML component.
if not, is it still
> worth using topcased?
If you need a UML tool, just stay in touch with MDT Papyrus and switch
as soon as you find it mature enought for your requirements.
If you look for a complete environment to develop a system with a model
driven approach you will probably need all stuff around modelling
(simulation, formal checking, requirement traceability...) and then
Topcased will provide this stuff: with GEF UML editor for now and with
MDT papyrus integrated UML editor in 6 to 8 months (we hope).
>
> Until know in my opinion topcased is better (at least concerning
> features and documention) but if papyrus is pushed by eclipse maybe it
> is better in the long-term?
>
we will do the best to ensure high quality for MDT papyrus for two reasons:
1/ we want this tool to be the reference UML tool of the Eclipse
foundation.
2/ We want this tool to be integrated into Topcased and to conform to
Topcased quality kit

best regards

raphaël Faudou
TOPCASED/MDT Papyrus team
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