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Asked on eclipse_tw group: any product customization way to disable display of bread crumbs? [message #469640] Fri, 14 September 2007 12:46 Go to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: nospam_kowalskilee.gmail.com

Hi,

This question was posted to the eclipse_tw Yahoo group:
How to Disable Breadcrumbs
Posted by: "nfoengineer" nfoengineer@yahoo.com
Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:06 pm (PST)
My development team just moved to Eclipse 3.3 for an RCP application
that we are developing. What has happened to my help project is that
Eclipse has somehow dynamically injected code in my help that makes
breadcrumbs appear at the top of each help topic. I am told by my
development team that breadcrumbs is now a standard feature with
Eclipse 3.3 BUT they do not know how to turn it off. Is there anyone
out there who can help me (and my developers) to disable breadcrumbs?

------------------------
I did a search for "bread crumbs" in the online Eclipse 3.3 help docs
found just one topic "Eclipse Platform What's New in 3.3".

I also scanned the "Product customization" topic for help and did not
spot a product customization for disabling the bread crumbs.

I also have searched Bugzilla and don't see an existing request for a
way to disable them either.

(Note: I like the bread crumbs. I'm just trying to find out what an
accurate response to the eclipse_tw posting is. :-)

Thanks!
--Lee Anne

To email me, remove the "nospam_" portion.
Re: Asked on eclipse_tw group: any product customization way to disable display of bread crumbs? [message #469642 is a reply to message #469640] Fri, 14 September 2007 21:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Goldthorpe is currently offline Chris Goldthorpe
Messages: 815
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
We don't have a preference for this but here is one way to do it.

Find the file org.eclipse.help.webapp\advanced\breadcrumbs.css and
replace its contents with.

..help_breadcrumbs {
display: none;
}
Thanks! (was Re: Asked on eclipse_tw group: any product customization way to disable display of brea [message #469643 is a reply to message #469642] Sat, 15 September 2007 15:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: nospam_kowalskilee.gmail.com

Thanks Chris! I'll relay this to the original questioner.

Chris Goldthorpe wrote:
> We don't have a preference for this but here is one way to do it.
>
> Find the file org.eclipse.help.webapp\advanced\breadcrumbs.css and
> replace its contents with.
>
> .help_breadcrumbs {
> display: none;
> }
Re: Asked on eclipse_tw group: any product customization way to disable display of bread crumbs? [message #469663 is a reply to message #469642] Fri, 12 October 2007 17:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave Pace is currently offline Dave Pace
Messages: 9
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
I have the same problem and would like to remove the default
breadcrumbs. While I like the breadcrumb feature, our docs team has
their own design and set of breadcrumbs they use so it is important to
them to be able to turn the default breadcrumbs off. Is this feature
planned for a future release?

In the interim, I tried the suggested solution and it didn't work for
me. I have org.eclipse.help.webapp_3.3.0.v20070607.jar and replaced the
contents of breadcrumbs.css as described below however they still show
up. Any idea what I might be doing wrong?

Thanks!
Dave

Chris Goldthorpe wrote:
> We don't have a preference for this but here is one way to do it.
>
> Find the file org.eclipse.help.webapp\advanced\breadcrumbs.css and
> replace its contents with.
>
> .help_breadcrumbs {
> display: none;
> }
Re: Asked on eclipse_tw group: any product customization way to disable display of bread crumbs? [message #469894 is a reply to message #469663] Mon, 15 October 2007 19:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Goldthorpe is currently offline Chris Goldthorpe
Messages: 815
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
I'm not sure why that didn't work for you. What OS/Browser are you
running on? I tried this on Windows XP using the built in browser which
uses IE.
Re: Asked on eclipse_tw group: any product customization way to disable display of bread crumbs? [message #469928 is a reply to message #469894] Thu, 18 October 2007 16:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave Pace is currently offline Dave Pace
Messages: 9
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
I'm using Windows XP and I had "Use external browser" preference
unchecked. I take that to mean that I am the built in browser. Is that
correct? Does Eclipse decide to use IE or does it use your system's
default browser?

I also tried switching to external browser and tried making Firefox
(2.0.0.7) and IE (7.0.5730.11) as my default browsers. I had the same
results. I have one coworker that also has XP and Firefox (2.0.0.7) and
sees the breadcrumbs.

However, running on the Mac with Safari (2.0.4 (419.3)) the breadcrumbs
do in fact go away as you describe.

-Dave

Chris Goldthorpe wrote:
> I'm not sure why that didn't work for you. What OS/Browser are you
> running on? I tried this on Windows XP using the built in browser which
> uses IE.
Re: Asked on eclipse_tw group: any product customization way to disable display of bread crumbs? [message #469929 is a reply to message #469928] Thu, 18 October 2007 17:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Goldthorpe is currently offline Chris Goldthorpe
Messages: 815
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
I just tried that on Windows XP and it worked for me, although I am
doing this from a checked out version of the webapp project rather than
editing a css file within a jar file. The Eclipse Browser on Windows XP
is a thin wrapper on top of IE so it shares most of the behavior with
IE, and therefore will have no problem handling display:none.

One possibility is that the old css file file has been cached by the
browser. If you have Firebug installed you will be able to see exactly
what css is being pulled in and that will probably enable you to get
things working.


Dave Pace wrote:
> I'm using Windows XP and I had "Use external browser" preference
> unchecked. I take that to mean that I am the built in browser. Is that
> correct? Does Eclipse decide to use IE or does it use your system's
> default browser?
>
> I also tried switching to external browser and tried making Firefox
> (2.0.0.7) and IE (7.0.5730.11) as my default browsers. I had the same
> results. I have one coworker that also has XP and Firefox (2.0.0.7) and
> sees the breadcrumbs.
>
> However, running on the Mac with Safari (2.0.4 (419.3)) the breadcrumbs
> do in fact go away as you describe.
>
> -Dave
>
> Chris Goldthorpe wrote:
>> I'm not sure why that didn't work for you. What OS/Browser are you
>> running on? I tried this on Windows XP using the built in browser
>> which uses IE.
>
Re: Asked on eclipse_tw group: any product customization way to disable display of bread crumbs? [message #470141 is a reply to message #469929] Thu, 18 October 2007 21:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave Pace is currently offline Dave Pace
Messages: 9
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Chris,

First, thank you very much for your help. I really appreciate it!

I'm a newbie to CSS and Firebug so I wasn't quite sure what to look for.
However, I was able to load breadcrumbs.css file in the browser with a
url: http://127.0.0.1:59634/help/advanced/breadcrumbs.css

It shows the expected contents, yet I still see the breadcrumbs in the
help docs.

> .help_breadcrumbs {
> display: none;
> }

So it seems to my newbie mind :) that the proper css file is being used
by my browser.

-Dave

Chris Goldthorpe wrote:
> I just tried that on Windows XP and it worked for me, although I am
> doing this from a checked out version of the webapp project rather than
> editing a css file within a jar file. The Eclipse Browser on Windows XP
> is a thin wrapper on top of IE so it shares most of the behavior with
> IE, and therefore will have no problem handling display:none.
>
> One possibility is that the old css file file has been cached by the
> browser. If you have Firebug installed you will be able to see exactly
> what css is being pulled in and that will probably enable you to get
> things working.
>
>
> Dave Pace wrote:
>> I'm using Windows XP and I had "Use external browser" preference
>> unchecked. I take that to mean that I am the built in browser. Is that
>> correct? Does Eclipse decide to use IE or does it use your system's
>> default browser?
>>
>> I also tried switching to external browser and tried making Firefox
>> (2.0.0.7) and IE (7.0.5730.11) as my default browsers. I had the same
>> results. I have one coworker that also has XP and Firefox (2.0.0.7)
>> and sees the breadcrumbs.
>>
>> However, running on the Mac with Safari (2.0.4 (419.3)) the breadcrumbs
>> do in fact go away as you describe.
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>> Chris Goldthorpe wrote:
>>> I'm not sure why that didn't work for you. What OS/Browser are you
>>> running on? I tried this on Windows XP using the built in browser
>>> which uses IE.
>>
Re: Asked on eclipse_tw group: any product customization way to disable display of bread crumbs? [message #470142 is a reply to message #470141] Thu, 18 October 2007 23:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Goldthorpe is currently offline Chris Goldthorpe
Messages: 815
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Firebug is an extension to Firefox which enables you to debug the HTML
and CSS among other things. If you have Firefox installed Tools/Add
ons/Get Extensions will take you to a page where you can search for
FireBug. Once there you can expand the frames till you can see what file
is getting loaded. I believe that for some the modified version of
breadcrumbs.css is not getting loaded but I have no idea why.

Dave Pace wrote:
> Chris,
>
> First, thank you very much for your help. I really appreciate it!
>
> I'm a newbie to CSS and Firebug so I wasn't quite sure what to look for.
> However, I was able to load breadcrumbs.css file in the browser with a
> url: http://127.0.0.1:59634/help/advanced/breadcrumbs.css
>
> It shows the expected contents, yet I still see the breadcrumbs in the
> help docs.
>
> > .help_breadcrumbs {
> > display: none;
> > }
>
> So it seems to my newbie mind :) that the proper css file is being used
> by my browser.
>
> -Dave
>
Re: Asked on eclipse_tw group: any product customization way to disable display [message #472433 is a reply to message #469642] Fri, 04 April 2008 09:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Porter is currently offline David Porter
Messages: 18
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Chris

I've tried turning off breadcrumbs using your suggestion below.

Oddly, this successfully hides breadcrumbs for the Eclipse Workbench User
Guide and the JDT User Guide. But it does not hide them for my own doc
plug-ins.

Have you any idea why this might be?

Thanks


Chris Goldthorpe wrote:

> We don't have a preference for this but here is one way to do it.

> Find the file org.eclipse.help.webappadvancedbreadcrumbs.css and
> replace its contents with.

> ..help_breadcrumbs {
> display: none;
> }
Re: Asked on eclipse_tw group: any product customization way to disable display [message #472518 is a reply to message #472433] Mon, 07 April 2008 19:07 Go to previous message
Chris Goldthorpe is currently offline Chris Goldthorpe
Messages: 815
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
I'm not sure why that would be, you may need to open help in an external
browser and save the html for your page and then inspect the html to see
if there is some reason why the CSS does not seem to be taking effect.

David Porter wrote:
> Chris
>
> I've tried turning off breadcrumbs using your suggestion below.
> Oddly, this successfully hides breadcrumbs for the Eclipse Workbench
> User Guide and the JDT User Guide. But it does not hide them for my own
> doc plug-ins.
> Have you any idea why this might be?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Chris Goldthorpe wrote:
>
>> We don't have a preference for this but here is one way to do it.
>
>> Find the file org.eclipse.help.webappadvancedbreadcrumbs.css and
>> replace its contents with.
>
>> ..help_breadcrumbs {
>> display: none;
>> }
>
>
Re: Asked on eclipse_tw group: any product customization way to disable display of bread crumbs? [message #576810 is a reply to message #469640] Fri, 14 September 2007 21:35 Go to previous message
Chris Goldthorpe is currently offline Chris Goldthorpe
Messages: 815
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
We don't have a preference for this but here is one way to do it.

Find the file org.eclipse.help.webapp\advanced\breadcrumbs.css and
replace its contents with.

..help_breadcrumbs {
display: none;
}
Thanks! (was Re: Asked on eclipse_tw group: any product customization way to disable display of brea [message #576854 is a reply to message #469642] Sat, 15 September 2007 15:35 Go to previous message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: nospam_kowalskilee.gmail.com

Thanks Chris! I'll relay this to the original questioner.

Chris Goldthorpe wrote:
> We don't have a preference for this but here is one way to do it.
>
> Find the file org.eclipse.help.webapp\advanced\breadcrumbs.css and
> replace its contents with.
>
> .help_breadcrumbs {
> display: none;
> }
Re: Asked on eclipse_tw group: any product customization way to disable display of bread crumbs? [message #586283 is a reply to message #469642] Fri, 12 October 2007 17:23 Go to previous message
Dave Pace is currently offline Dave Pace
Messages: 9
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
I have the same problem and would like to remove the default
breadcrumbs. While I like the breadcrumb feature, our docs team has
their own design and set of breadcrumbs they use so it is important to
them to be able to turn the default breadcrumbs off. Is this feature
planned for a future release?

In the interim, I tried the suggested solution and it didn't work for
me. I have org.eclipse.help.webapp_3.3.0.v20070607.jar and replaced the
contents of breadcrumbs.css as described below however they still show
up. Any idea what I might be doing wrong?

Thanks!
Dave

Chris Goldthorpe wrote:
> We don't have a preference for this but here is one way to do it.
>
> Find the file org.eclipse.help.webapp\advanced\breadcrumbs.css and
> replace its contents with.
>
> .help_breadcrumbs {
> display: none;
> }
Re: Asked on eclipse_tw group: any product customization way to disable display of bread crumbs? [message #588625 is a reply to message #469663] Mon, 15 October 2007 19:51 Go to previous message
Chris Goldthorpe is currently offline Chris Goldthorpe
Messages: 815
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
I'm not sure why that didn't work for you. What OS/Browser are you
running on? I tried this on Windows XP using the built in browser which
uses IE.
Re: Asked on eclipse_tw group: any product customization way to disable display of bread crumbs? [message #588757 is a reply to message #469894] Thu, 18 October 2007 16:49 Go to previous message
Dave Pace is currently offline Dave Pace
Messages: 9
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
I'm using Windows XP and I had "Use external browser" preference
unchecked. I take that to mean that I am the built in browser. Is that
correct? Does Eclipse decide to use IE or does it use your system's
default browser?

I also tried switching to external browser and tried making Firefox
(2.0.0.7) and IE (7.0.5730.11) as my default browsers. I had the same
results. I have one coworker that also has XP and Firefox (2.0.0.7) and
sees the breadcrumbs.

However, running on the Mac with Safari (2.0.4 (419.3)) the breadcrumbs
do in fact go away as you describe.

-Dave

Chris Goldthorpe wrote:
> I'm not sure why that didn't work for you. What OS/Browser are you
> running on? I tried this on Windows XP using the built in browser which
> uses IE.
Re: Asked on eclipse_tw group: any product customization way to disable display of bread crumbs? [message #588761 is a reply to message #469928] Thu, 18 October 2007 17:25 Go to previous message
Chris Goldthorpe is currently offline Chris Goldthorpe
Messages: 815
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
I just tried that on Windows XP and it worked for me, although I am
doing this from a checked out version of the webapp project rather than
editing a css file within a jar file. The Eclipse Browser on Windows XP
is a thin wrapper on top of IE so it shares most of the behavior with
IE, and therefore will have no problem handling display:none.

One possibility is that the old css file file has been cached by the
browser. If you have Firebug installed you will be able to see exactly
what css is being pulled in and that will probably enable you to get
things working.


Dave Pace wrote:
> I'm using Windows XP and I had "Use external browser" preference
> unchecked. I take that to mean that I am the built in browser. Is that
> correct? Does Eclipse decide to use IE or does it use your system's
> default browser?
>
> I also tried switching to external browser and tried making Firefox
> (2.0.0.7) and IE (7.0.5730.11) as my default browsers. I had the same
> results. I have one coworker that also has XP and Firefox (2.0.0.7) and
> sees the breadcrumbs.
>
> However, running on the Mac with Safari (2.0.4 (419.3)) the breadcrumbs
> do in fact go away as you describe.
>
> -Dave
>
> Chris Goldthorpe wrote:
>> I'm not sure why that didn't work for you. What OS/Browser are you
>> running on? I tried this on Windows XP using the built in browser
>> which uses IE.
>
Re: Asked on eclipse_tw group: any product customization way to disable display of bread crumbs? [message #588949 is a reply to message #469929] Thu, 18 October 2007 21:43 Go to previous message
Dave Pace is currently offline Dave Pace
Messages: 9
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Chris,

First, thank you very much for your help. I really appreciate it!

I'm a newbie to CSS and Firebug so I wasn't quite sure what to look for.
However, I was able to load breadcrumbs.css file in the browser with a
url: http://127.0.0.1:59634/help/advanced/breadcrumbs.css

It shows the expected contents, yet I still see the breadcrumbs in the
help docs.

> .help_breadcrumbs {
> display: none;
> }

So it seems to my newbie mind :) that the proper css file is being used
by my browser.

-Dave

Chris Goldthorpe wrote:
> I just tried that on Windows XP and it worked for me, although I am
> doing this from a checked out version of the webapp project rather than
> editing a css file within a jar file. The Eclipse Browser on Windows XP
> is a thin wrapper on top of IE so it shares most of the behavior with
> IE, and therefore will have no problem handling display:none.
>
> One possibility is that the old css file file has been cached by the
> browser. If you have Firebug installed you will be able to see exactly
> what css is being pulled in and that will probably enable you to get
> things working.
>
>
> Dave Pace wrote:
>> I'm using Windows XP and I had "Use external browser" preference
>> unchecked. I take that to mean that I am the built in browser. Is that
>> correct? Does Eclipse decide to use IE or does it use your system's
>> default browser?
>>
>> I also tried switching to external browser and tried making Firefox
>> (2.0.0.7) and IE (7.0.5730.11) as my default browsers. I had the same
>> results. I have one coworker that also has XP and Firefox (2.0.0.7)
>> and sees the breadcrumbs.
>>
>> However, running on the Mac with Safari (2.0.4 (419.3)) the breadcrumbs
>> do in fact go away as you describe.
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>> Chris Goldthorpe wrote:
>>> I'm not sure why that didn't work for you. What OS/Browser are you
>>> running on? I tried this on Windows XP using the built in browser
>>> which uses IE.
>>
Re: Asked on eclipse_tw group: any product customization way to disable display of bread crumbs? [message #588958 is a reply to message #470141] Thu, 18 October 2007 23:18 Go to previous message
Chris Goldthorpe is currently offline Chris Goldthorpe
Messages: 815
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Firebug is an extension to Firefox which enables you to debug the HTML
and CSS among other things. If you have Firefox installed Tools/Add
ons/Get Extensions will take you to a page where you can search for
FireBug. Once there you can expand the frames till you can see what file
is getting loaded. I believe that for some the modified version of
breadcrumbs.css is not getting loaded but I have no idea why.

Dave Pace wrote:
> Chris,
>
> First, thank you very much for your help. I really appreciate it!
>
> I'm a newbie to CSS and Firebug so I wasn't quite sure what to look for.
> However, I was able to load breadcrumbs.css file in the browser with a
> url: http://127.0.0.1:59634/help/advanced/breadcrumbs.css
>
> It shows the expected contents, yet I still see the breadcrumbs in the
> help docs.
>
> > .help_breadcrumbs {
> > display: none;
> > }
>
> So it seems to my newbie mind :) that the proper css file is being used
> by my browser.
>
> -Dave
>
Re: Asked on eclipse_tw group: any product customization way to disable display [message #611106 is a reply to message #469642] Fri, 04 April 2008 09:52 Go to previous message
David Porter is currently offline David Porter
Messages: 18
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Chris

I've tried turning off breadcrumbs using your suggestion below.

Oddly, this successfully hides breadcrumbs for the Eclipse Workbench User
Guide and the JDT User Guide. But it does not hide them for my own doc
plug-ins.

Have you any idea why this might be?

Thanks


Chris Goldthorpe wrote:

> We don't have a preference for this but here is one way to do it.

> Find the file org.eclipse.help.webappadvancedbreadcrumbs.css and
> replace its contents with.

> ..help_breadcrumbs {
> display: none;
> }
Re: Asked on eclipse_tw group: any product customization way to disable display [message #611136 is a reply to message #472433] Mon, 07 April 2008 19:07 Go to previous message
Chris Goldthorpe is currently offline Chris Goldthorpe
Messages: 815
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
I'm not sure why that would be, you may need to open help in an external
browser and save the html for your page and then inspect the html to see
if there is some reason why the CSS does not seem to be taking effect.

David Porter wrote:
> Chris
>
> I've tried turning off breadcrumbs using your suggestion below.
> Oddly, this successfully hides breadcrumbs for the Eclipse Workbench
> User Guide and the JDT User Guide. But it does not hide them for my own
> doc plug-ins.
> Have you any idea why this might be?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Chris Goldthorpe wrote:
>
>> We don't have a preference for this but here is one way to do it.
>
>> Find the file org.eclipse.help.webappadvancedbreadcrumbs.css and
>> replace its contents with.
>
>> ..help_breadcrumbs {
>> display: none;
>> }
>
>
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