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an Eclipse launch config specifically for Help? [message #468998] Wed, 21 February 2007 16:52 Go to next message
Richard Curtis is currently offline Richard Curtis
Messages: 4
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Is there a way to create an Eclipse launch
configuration that will launch the Help browser
immediately rather than having it launch a runtime
workbench from which you can launch the Help? I've
tried a couple of likely suspects (e.g. adding
org.eclipse.help.base_3.1.0/helpbase.jar
org.eclipse.help.standalone.Help -command displayHelp
to the "Arguments") to no avail.

thanks,

Richard O. Curtis
ClearCase Information Architect
IBM Rational Software
20 Maguire Rd.
Lexington, MA 02421-3112

781-676-2691 //voice
rocurtis@us.ibm.com //inet
Re: an Eclipse launch config specifically for Help? [message #469001 is a reply to message #468998] Wed, 21 February 2007 16:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jacek Pospychala is currently offline Jacek Pospychala
Messages: 159
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Richard,

you can use help as standalone application, that doesn't require
platform. I am not sure if you've seen this page:
http://help.eclipse.org/help31/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse. platform.doc.isv/reference/misc/help_standalone.html

Jacek

Richard O. Curtis napisał(a):
> Is there a way to create an Eclipse launch
> configuration that will launch the Help browser
> immediately rather than having it launch a runtime
> workbench from which you can launch the Help? I've
> tried a couple of likely suspects (e.g. adding
> org.eclipse.help.base_3.1.0/helpbase.jar
> org.eclipse.help.standalone.Help -command displayHelp
> to the "Arguments") to no avail.
>
> thanks,
>
> Richard O. Curtis
> ClearCase Information Architect
> IBM Rational Software
> 20 Maguire Rd.
> Lexington, MA 02421-3112
>
> 781-676-2691 //voice
> rocurtis@us.ibm.com //inet
>
>
Re: an Eclipse launch config specifically for Help? [message #469006 is a reply to message #468998] Fri, 23 February 2007 23:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: someone.somewhere.com

Hi Richard,

Can you describe more what you mean by "launch a runtime workbench"? What is
the artifact you're trying to avoid spawning?

Or is it that you're trying to make a launch configuration that adheres to
Eclipse launch configuration standard?

--Lee Anne Kowalski
kowalski at us dot ibm dot com


"Richard O. Curtis" <rocurtis@us.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:erhtbv$c50$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> Is there a way to create an Eclipse launch
> configuration that will launch the Help browser
> immediately rather than having it launch a runtime
> workbench from which you can launch the Help? I've
> tried a couple of likely suspects (e.g. adding
> org.eclipse.help.base_3.1.0/helpbase.jar
> org.eclipse.help.standalone.Help -command displayHelp
> to the "Arguments") to no avail.
>
> thanks,
>
> Richard O. Curtis
> ClearCase Information Architect
> IBM Rational Software
> 20 Maguire Rd.
> Lexington, MA 02421-3112
>
> 781-676-2691 //voice
> rocurtis@us.ibm.com //inet
>
>
Re: an Eclipse launch config specifically for Help? [message #469009 is a reply to message #469006] Mon, 26 February 2007 16:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Curtis is currently offline Richard Curtis
Messages: 4
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
We normally test our Help plug-ins by creating a run
configuration (Eclipse main menu Run > Run..., then
select "Eclipse application". We typically specify "Run
a product" and select "org.eclipse.platform.ide" and
then configure it to use the workspace doc plug-ins
we're developing. When you run this, it starts a
runtime workbench (Eclipse running within Eclipse) from
which we select Help > Help Topics to see the
"Bookshelf" on which our books appear. I'm just trying
to avoid that last step by somehow having the run
configuration open the Help browser instead of (or in
addition to) the runtime workbench. Not a huge
time-saver, to be sure, but it seems like it should be
possible.



"Lee Anne" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:ernt0b$f5f$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> Hi Richard,
>
> Can you describe more what you mean by "launch a runtime workbench"? What
> is the artifact you're trying to avoid spawning?
>
> Or is it that you're trying to make a launch configuration that adheres to
> Eclipse launch configuration standard?
>
> --Lee Anne Kowalski
> kowalski at us dot ibm dot com
>
>
> "Richard O. Curtis" <rocurtis@us.ibm.com> wrote in message
> news:erhtbv$c50$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>> Is there a way to create an Eclipse launch
>> configuration that will launch the Help browser
>> immediately rather than having it launch a runtime
>> workbench from which you can launch the Help? I've
>> tried a couple of likely suspects (e.g. adding
>> org.eclipse.help.base_3.1.0/helpbase.jar
>> org.eclipse.help.standalone.Help -command displayHelp
>> to the "Arguments") to no avail.
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Richard O. Curtis
>> ClearCase Information Architect
>> IBM Rational Software
>> 20 Maguire Rd.
>> Lexington, MA 02421-3112
>>
>> 781-676-2691 //voice
>> rocurtis@us.ibm.com //inet
>>
>>
>
>
Re: an Eclipse launch config specifically for Help? [message #469011 is a reply to message #468998] Wed, 28 February 2007 20:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: someone.somewhere.com

So what populates the "Run a product" set with the list that allows you to
select "org.eclipse.platform.ide" in the first place?

I mean, what populates that list of choices?

If it comes from the config.ini file (in eclipse/configuration), then it
would be to
somehow get an:
eclipse.product=<something>

Where the <something> is a thing that launches headless Eclipse and
the standalone help system call:
org.eclipse.help.base_[version].jar
org.eclipse.help.standalone.Help -command displayHelp

So it depends on what are the rules for what can be eclipse.product? The
Product Configuration Editor might help in creating a configuration that is
headless Eclipse and the startup command for the standalone help system.
http://help.eclipse.org/help32/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse. pde.doc.user/guide/tools/editors/product_editor/editor.htm

I haven't seen a .product file for running the standalone help system, but
that doesn't mean it couldn't be built. :-)

--Lee Anne
kowalski at us dot ibm dot com

> We normally test our Help plug-ins by creating a run
> configuration (Eclipse main menu Run > Run..., then
> select "Eclipse application". We typically specify "Run
> a product" and select "org.eclipse.platform.ide" and
> then configure it to use the workspace doc plug-ins
> we're developing.
Re: an Eclipse launch config specifically for Help? [message #469015 is a reply to message #469009] Thu, 01 March 2007 15:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Curtis d'Entremont is currently offline Curtis d'Entremont
Messages: 42
Registered: July 2009
Member
Hi Richard,

At the moment there's no quick one-step setup for doing this with a
run-time workbench using PDE, although I agree it would be useful.
Launching standalone help has two steps.. first, start the help eclipse
application (starts the server listening for commands), then send the
command via HTTP to display help.

If you like, you can open an enhancement request for this.

Thanks,
Curt
Re: an Eclipse launch config specifically for Help? [message #535549 is a reply to message #468998] Mon, 24 May 2010 12:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Pineger is currently offline Richard Pineger
Messages: 11
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Hi Richard,

did you ever solve this? I've been pointed at these instructions by Chris Goldbourne:
http://www.eclipse.org/articles/article.php?file=Article-Add ingHelpToRCP/index.html
However, I couldn't get them to work for Galileo 3.5.1.

Regards,
Richard
Re: an Eclipse launch config specifically for Help? [message #560272 is a reply to message #468998] Wed, 21 February 2007 16:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jacek Pospychala is currently offline Jacek Pospychala
Messages: 159
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Richard,

you can use help as standalone application, that doesn't require
platform. I am not sure if you've seen this page:
http://help.eclipse.org/help31/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse. platform.doc.isv/reference/misc/help_standalone.html

Jacek

Richard O. Curtis napisał(a):
> Is there a way to create an Eclipse launch
> configuration that will launch the Help browser
> immediately rather than having it launch a runtime
> workbench from which you can launch the Help? I've
> tried a couple of likely suspects (e.g. adding
> org.eclipse.help.base_3.1.0/helpbase.jar
> org.eclipse.help.standalone.Help -command displayHelp
> to the "Arguments") to no avail.
>
> thanks,
>
> Richard O. Curtis
> ClearCase Information Architect
> IBM Rational Software
> 20 Maguire Rd.
> Lexington, MA 02421-3112
>
> 781-676-2691 //voice
> rocurtis@us.ibm.com //inet
>
>
Re: an Eclipse launch config specifically for Help? [message #560274 is a reply to message #468998] Fri, 23 February 2007 23:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: someone.somewhere.com

Hi Richard,

Can you describe more what you mean by "launch a runtime workbench"? What is
the artifact you're trying to avoid spawning?

Or is it that you're trying to make a launch configuration that adheres to
Eclipse launch configuration standard?

--Lee Anne Kowalski
kowalski at us dot ibm dot com


"Richard O. Curtis" <rocurtis@us.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:erhtbv$c50$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> Is there a way to create an Eclipse launch
> configuration that will launch the Help browser
> immediately rather than having it launch a runtime
> workbench from which you can launch the Help? I've
> tried a couple of likely suspects (e.g. adding
> org.eclipse.help.base_3.1.0/helpbase.jar
> org.eclipse.help.standalone.Help -command displayHelp
> to the "Arguments") to no avail.
>
> thanks,
>
> Richard O. Curtis
> ClearCase Information Architect
> IBM Rational Software
> 20 Maguire Rd.
> Lexington, MA 02421-3112
>
> 781-676-2691 //voice
> rocurtis@us.ibm.com //inet
>
>
Re: an Eclipse launch config specifically for Help? [message #560276 is a reply to message #469006] Mon, 26 February 2007 16:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Curtis is currently offline Richard Curtis
Messages: 4
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
We normally test our Help plug-ins by creating a run
configuration (Eclipse main menu Run > Run..., then
select "Eclipse application". We typically specify "Run
a product" and select "org.eclipse.platform.ide" and
then configure it to use the workspace doc plug-ins
we're developing. When you run this, it starts a
runtime workbench (Eclipse running within Eclipse) from
which we select Help > Help Topics to see the
"Bookshelf" on which our books appear. I'm just trying
to avoid that last step by somehow having the run
configuration open the Help browser instead of (or in
addition to) the runtime workbench. Not a huge
time-saver, to be sure, but it seems like it should be
possible.



"Lee Anne" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:ernt0b$f5f$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> Hi Richard,
>
> Can you describe more what you mean by "launch a runtime workbench"? What
> is the artifact you're trying to avoid spawning?
>
> Or is it that you're trying to make a launch configuration that adheres to
> Eclipse launch configuration standard?
>
> --Lee Anne Kowalski
> kowalski at us dot ibm dot com
>
>
> "Richard O. Curtis" <rocurtis@us.ibm.com> wrote in message
> news:erhtbv$c50$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>> Is there a way to create an Eclipse launch
>> configuration that will launch the Help browser
>> immediately rather than having it launch a runtime
>> workbench from which you can launch the Help? I've
>> tried a couple of likely suspects (e.g. adding
>> org.eclipse.help.base_3.1.0/helpbase.jar
>> org.eclipse.help.standalone.Help -command displayHelp
>> to the "Arguments") to no avail.
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Richard O. Curtis
>> ClearCase Information Architect
>> IBM Rational Software
>> 20 Maguire Rd.
>> Lexington, MA 02421-3112
>>
>> 781-676-2691 //voice
>> rocurtis@us.ibm.com //inet
>>
>>
>
>
Re: an Eclipse launch config specifically for Help? [message #560278 is a reply to message #468998] Wed, 28 February 2007 20:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: someone.somewhere.com

So what populates the "Run a product" set with the list that allows you to
select "org.eclipse.platform.ide" in the first place?

I mean, what populates that list of choices?

If it comes from the config.ini file (in eclipse/configuration), then it
would be to
somehow get an:
eclipse.product=<something>

Where the <something> is a thing that launches headless Eclipse and
the standalone help system call:
org.eclipse.help.base_[version].jar
org.eclipse.help.standalone.Help -command displayHelp

So it depends on what are the rules for what can be eclipse.product? The
Product Configuration Editor might help in creating a configuration that is
headless Eclipse and the startup command for the standalone help system.
http://help.eclipse.org/help32/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse. pde.doc.user/guide/tools/editors/product_editor/editor.htm

I haven't seen a .product file for running the standalone help system, but
that doesn't mean it couldn't be built. :-)

--Lee Anne
kowalski at us dot ibm dot com

> We normally test our Help plug-ins by creating a run
> configuration (Eclipse main menu Run > Run..., then
> select "Eclipse application". We typically specify "Run
> a product" and select "org.eclipse.platform.ide" and
> then configure it to use the workspace doc plug-ins
> we're developing.
Re: an Eclipse launch config specifically for Help? [message #560281 is a reply to message #469009] Thu, 01 March 2007 15:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Curtis d'Entremont is currently offline Curtis d'Entremont
Messages: 42
Registered: July 2009
Member
Hi Richard,

At the moment there's no quick one-step setup for doing this with a
run-time workbench using PDE, although I agree it would be useful.
Launching standalone help has two steps.. first, start the help eclipse
application (starts the server listening for commands), then send the
command via HTTP to display help.

If you like, you can open an enhancement request for this.

Thanks,
Curt
Re: an Eclipse launch config specifically for Help? [message #624140 is a reply to message #468998] Mon, 24 May 2010 12:20 Go to previous message
Richard Pineger is currently offline Richard Pineger
Messages: 11
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Hi Richard,

did you ever solve this? I've been pointed at these instructions by Chris Goldbourne:
http://www.eclipse.org/articles/article.php?file=Article-Add ingHelpToRCP/index.html
However, I couldn't get them to work for Galileo 3.5.1.

Regards,
Richard
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