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Did Sun manipulate a ZDNET-poll? [message #45818] Fri, 25 May 2007 15:40 Go to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: NOSPAMjfm84hd.gmail.com

Roumen's Weblog: http://blogs.sun.com/roumen/entry/should_tim_bray_get_a

>>>
Should Tim Bray Be Invited To A Dinner By David Berlind?

David Berlind of ZDNet placed a bet with Tim Bray in 2006. The bet was
almost forgotten, but I think it's good time to remind the world about it.
David Berlind asked the following question: "Is it time for NetBeans to
finally throw in the towel?"

Why revisit the question now? Because in a recent poll in David Berlind's
blog entry about mobile tools for Java NetBeans won by 69%. So it seems to
me that Tim Bray deserves to be invited to a dinner by David. Bon apetit,
Tim!

Permalink Comments [0] ( May 25 2007, 03:52:04 PM CEST / May 25 2007,
03:48:50 PM CEST )
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On May 16 the ZDNET-poll was manipulated by ... was it Sun Microsystems or
employees from Sun?

Blog created: May 14

Results:

May 15 Eclipse 52% NetBeans 48% 158 votes

May 16 Eclipse 30% NetBeans 70% 452 votes ( + 294 votes)

May 17 Eclipse 31% NetBeans 69% 569 votes ( + 117 votes)

May 18 Eclipse 31% NetBeans 69% 602 votes (+ 33 votes)

The ZDNET-poll was manipulated. Watch the numbers on May 16 2007 and compare
the numbers with those of May 15,17,18
Re: Did Sun manipulate a ZDNET-poll? [message #45848 is a reply to message #45818] Mon, 28 May 2007 03:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rehte is currently offline rehte
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I've heard too much about Sun's conspiracy to manipulating polls!
If Eclipse wins, it is not manipulation?
BTW, I don't think Roumen's suggestion should be supported by this poll. It is only a fact. No need to be proved by a poll.
Re: Did Sun manipulate a ZDNET-poll? [message #45878 is a reply to message #45848] Thu, 31 May 2007 15:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: merks.ca.ibm.com

William,

Well, I suppose manipulating polls in terms of reminding potential
voters to vote is perfectly legitimate. Right now I'm watching the poll
for
http://www2.sys-con.com/java/readerschoice2004/frameliveupda te.cfm?BType=11
with particular interest and I'm somewhat surprised to see EJB generate
more votes in the last three days than it did in the three weeks before
that. One would generally expect votes to arrive with a Poisson
distribution, rather than in distinct spikes. I suppose I too should
make an effort to drum up votes, although it seems a little like
drumming up votes for a beauty contest by making claims to be the must
beautiful. It just kind of feels slimy! ;-)


William Chen wrote:
> I've heard too much about Sun's conspiracy to manipulating polls!
> If Eclipse wins, it is not manipulation?
> BTW, I don't think Roumen's suggestion should be supported by this poll. It is only a fact. No need to be proved by a poll.
>
Re: Did Sun manipulate a ZDNET-poll? [message #45907 is a reply to message #45878] Thu, 31 May 2007 16:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ian Skerrett is currently offline Ian Skerrett
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> I suppose I too should make an effort to drum up votes, although it seems
> a little like drumming up votes for a beauty contest by making claims to
> be the must beautiful. It just kind of feels slimy! ;-)
>

I personally dislike this types of polls, in the end they prove very little.
Re: Did Sun manipulate a ZDNET-poll? [message #45930 is a reply to message #45907] Thu, 31 May 2007 16:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: merks.ca.ibm.com

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Ian,

Except of course if you win! Hehehe. I agree, like beauty, these types
of things are very much in the eye of the beholder and prove little.


Ian Skerrett wrote:
>> I suppose I too should make an effort to drum up votes, although it seems
>> a little like drumming up votes for a beauty contest by making claims to
>> be the must beautiful. It just kind of feels slimy! ;-)
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> I personally dislike this types of polls, in the end they prove very little.
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Re: Did Sun manipulate a ZDNET-poll? [message #46824 is a reply to message #45907] Fri, 06 July 2007 02:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: sarmadysREM.REMgmail.com

Poll questions should be specific when we are going to gather technical
opinions about something (like which IDE has more Refactoring features ,
or give a score from 1-100 to refactoring features of these 5 IDEs).

General Poll questions are only acceptable preferences of people is
going to be measured Like which one do you prefer to eat now , apple or
orange.
Re: Did Sun manipulate a ZDNET-poll? [message #46969 is a reply to message #46824] Thu, 12 July 2007 07:04 Go to previous message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: NOSPAMjfm84hd.gmail.com

"Siamak Sarmady" <sarmadysREM@REMgmail.com>

> Poll questions should be specific when we are going to gather technical
> opinions about something (like which IDE has more Refactoring features ,
> or give a score from 1-100 to refactoring features of these 5 IDEs).
>
> General Poll questions are only acceptable preferences of people is going
> to be measured Like which one do you prefer to eat now , apple or orange.

Yes.

And just FYI now there's another
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