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| Re: Should the foundation pay for article [message #44354 is a reply to message #44322] |
Thu, 08 February 2007 19:27   |
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Originally posted by: ian.REMOVE.eclipse.org
>Therefore my question, should the foundation pay for articles?
I am definitely interested in what people think of this. IMHO, writing
articles is one very important part of building a community for a project.
However, we don't pay committers or contributors for writing code, reporting
bugs, writing documentation, answering newsgroup postings, etc, other very
important tasks for building a project community. Therefore, I am not sure
why writing articles is anything different.
Another way to look at it, is that it is goodness to have Eclipse articles
published on places like onjava, infoq, javalobby, sd times, eclipse
magazin, etc. etc. Provides more exposure for Eclipse.
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| Re: Should the foundation pay for article [message #44384 is a reply to message #44354] |
Thu, 08 February 2007 19:55 |
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Originally posted by: eclipse5.rizzoweb.com
Ian Skerrett wrote:
>> Therefore my question, should the foundation pay for articles?
>
> I am definitely interested in what people think of this. IMHO, writing
> articles is one very important part of building a community for a project.
> However, we don't pay committers or contributors for writing code, reporting
> bugs, writing documentation, answering newsgroup postings, etc, other very
> important tasks for building a project community. Therefore, I am not sure
> why writing articles is anything different.
>
> Another way to look at it, is that it is goodness to have Eclipse articles
> published on places like onjava, infoq, javalobby, sd times, eclipse
> magazin, etc. etc. Provides more exposure for Eclipse.
I vote for paying for newsgroup postings. Ideally, I'd like a per-word
rate since I can be quite verbose when I so desire. But I'd settle for
per-post. I volunteer to be the beta tester for this new policy - I'll
send you my direct-deposit information offline so we can start testing it.
Eric
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| Re: Should the foundation pay for article [message #44412 is a reply to message #44354] |
Thu, 08 February 2007 19:54 |
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Originally posted by: merks.ca.ibm.com
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Ian,
I agree with how you characterize the situation. Many of us work very
hard, even using our own person time, to provide everything from code to
documentation, so to single out one particular aspect as something that
the foundation should pay for would seem not to be in keeping with the
spirit of open source. Probably many of the organizations that pay for
articles also benefit from the advertising that shows up when people
read those articles, and certainly this helps offset the payments.
Goodness forbid that Eclipse should decide to host advertisement! I can
see the NetBeans adds now!! :-)
Ian Skerrett wrote:
>> Therefore my question, should the foundation pay for articles?
>>
>
> I am definitely interested in what people think of this. IMHO, writing
> articles is one very important part of building a community for a project.
> However, we don't pay committers or contributors for writing code, reporting
> bugs, writing documentation, answering newsgroup postings, etc, other very
> important tasks for building a project community. Therefore, I am not sure
> why writing articles is anything different.
>
> Another way to look at it, is that it is goodness to have Eclipse articles
> published on places like onjava, infoq, javalobby, sd times, eclipse
> magazin, etc. etc. Provides more exposure for Eclipse.
>
>
>
>
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Ian,<br>
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I agree with how you characterize the situation. Many of us work very
hard, even using our own person time, to provide everything from code
to documentation, so to single out one particular aspect as something
that the foundation should pay for would seem not to be in keeping with
the spirit of open source. Probably many of the organizations that pay
for articles also benefit from the advertising that shows up when
people read those articles, and certainly this helps offset the
payments. Goodness forbid that Eclipse should decide to host
advertisement! I can see the NetBeans adds now!! :-)<br>
<br>
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Ian Skerrett wrote:
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I am definitely interested in what people think of this. IMHO, writing
articles is one very important part of building a community for a project.
However, we don't pay committers or contributors for writing code, reporting
bugs, writing documentation, answering newsgroup postings, etc, other very
important tasks for building a project community. Therefore, I am not sure
why writing articles is anything different.
Another way to look at it, is that it is goodness to have Eclipse articles
published on places like onjava, infoq, javalobby, sd times, eclipse
magazin, etc. etc. Provides more exposure for Eclipse.
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| Re: Should the foundation pay for article [message #44443 is a reply to message #44384] |
Thu, 08 February 2007 20:00 |
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Originally posted by: merks.ca.ibm.com
Eric,
Clearly great minds think alike, because I had the same thought! Or is
that small minds seldom differ?! :-) In any case, if I had a penny
per download and a dollar per posted answer, I'd be in business! I
think longer answers should be worth more, so prorating is definitely a
plus! If the foundation doesn't support this excellent plan, donations
will be most welcome, preferably in the form of small unmarked
non-sequential bills...
Eric Rizzo wrote:
> Ian Skerrett wrote:
>>> Therefore my question, should the foundation pay for articles?
>>
>> I am definitely interested in what people think of this. IMHO,
>> writing articles is one very important part of building a community
>> for a project. However, we don't pay committers or contributors for
>> writing code, reporting bugs, writing documentation, answering
>> newsgroup postings, etc, other very important tasks for building a
>> project community. Therefore, I am not sure why writing articles is
>> anything different.
>>
>> Another way to look at it, is that it is goodness to have Eclipse
>> articles published on places like onjava, infoq, javalobby, sd times,
>> eclipse magazin, etc. etc. Provides more exposure for Eclipse.
>
> I vote for paying for newsgroup postings. Ideally, I'd like a per-word
> rate since I can be quite verbose when I so desire. But I'd settle for
> per-post. I volunteer to be the beta tester for this new policy - I'll
> send you my direct-deposit information offline so we can start testing
> it.
>
> Eric
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| Re: Should the foundation pay for article [message #44565 is a reply to message #44412] |
Wed, 14 February 2007 19:29 |
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Originally posted by: wayne.beaton._NOSPAM_eclipse.org
Articles get you swag. That's good, right?
Wayne
Ed Merks wrote:
> Ian,
>
> I agree with how you characterize the situation. Many of us work very
> hard, even using our own person time, to provide everything from code to
> documentation, so to single out one particular aspect as something that
> the foundation should pay for would seem not to be in keeping with the
> spirit of open source. Probably many of the organizations that pay for
> articles also benefit from the advertising that shows up when people
> read those articles, and certainly this helps offset the payments.
> Goodness forbid that Eclipse should decide to host advertisement! I can
> see the NetBeans adds now!! :-)
>
>
> Ian Skerrett wrote:
>>> Therefore my question, should the foundation pay for articles?
>>>
>>
>> I am definitely interested in what people think of this. IMHO, writing
>> articles is one very important part of building a community for a project.
>> However, we don't pay committers or contributors for writing code, reporting
>> bugs, writing documentation, answering newsgroup postings, etc, other very
>> important tasks for building a project community. Therefore, I am not sure
>> why writing articles is anything different.
>>
>> Another way to look at it, is that it is goodness to have Eclipse articles
>> published on places like onjava, infoq, javalobby, sd times, eclipse
>> magazin, etc. etc. Provides more exposure for Eclipse.
>>
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| Re: Should the foundation pay for article [message #44595 is a reply to message #44565] |
Wed, 14 February 2007 19:40 |
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Originally posted by: merks.ca.ibm.com
Wayne,
Sure, first the free work and then we get to be a walking billboard!
Just kidding. It's a very good point. Indeed I'm very fond of my
Eclipse-logo sweat shirt and I know that other covet it so that makes it
even better. :-)
Wayne Beaton wrote:
> Articles get you swag. That's good, right?
>
> Wayne
>
> Ed Merks wrote:
>> Ian,
>>
>> I agree with how you characterize the situation. Many of us work
>> very hard, even using our own person time, to provide everything from
>> code to documentation, so to single out one particular aspect as
>> something that the foundation should pay for would seem not to be in
>> keeping with the spirit of open source. Probably many of the
>> organizations that pay for articles also benefit from the advertising
>> that shows up when people read those articles, and certainly this
>> helps offset the payments. Goodness forbid that Eclipse should
>> decide to host advertisement! I can see the NetBeans adds now!! :-)
>>
>>
>> Ian Skerrett wrote:
>>>> Therefore my question, should the foundation pay for articles?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am definitely interested in what people think of this. IMHO,
>>> writing articles is one very important part of building a community
>>> for a project. However, we don't pay committers or contributors for
>>> writing code, reporting bugs, writing documentation, answering
>>> newsgroup postings, etc, other very important tasks for building a
>>> project community. Therefore, I am not sure why writing articles is
>>> anything different.
>>>
>>> Another way to look at it, is that it is goodness to have Eclipse
>>> articles published on places like onjava, infoq, javalobby, sd
>>> times, eclipse magazin, etc. etc. Provides more exposure for Eclipse.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Should the foundation pay for article [message #44626 is a reply to message #44595] |
Thu, 15 February 2007 14:51 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: ian.REMOVE.eclipse.org
I agree with Ed. Lots of people get Swag for doing cool stuff, like
articles. Sure if is some form of 'payment' but from a pure monetary
perspective it is pretty insignificant.
"Ed Merks" <merks@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:eqvoit$vq3$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> Wayne,
>
> Sure, first the free work and then we get to be a walking billboard! Just
> kidding. It's a very good point. Indeed I'm very fond of my Eclipse-logo
> sweat shirt and I know that other covet it so that makes it even better.
> :-)
>
>
> Wayne Beaton wrote:
>> Articles get you swag. That's good, right?
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>> Ed Merks wrote:
>>> Ian,
>>>
>>> I agree with how you characterize the situation. Many of us work very
>>> hard, even using our own person time, to provide everything from code to
>>> documentation, so to single out one particular aspect as something that
>>> the foundation should pay for would seem not to be in keeping with the
>>> spirit of open source. Probably many of the organizations that pay for
>>> articles also benefit from the advertising that shows up when people
>>> read those articles, and certainly this helps offset the payments.
>>> Goodness forbid that Eclipse should decide to host advertisement! I can
>>> see the NetBeans adds now!! :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> Ian Skerrett wrote:
>>>>> Therefore my question, should the foundation pay for articles?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am definitely interested in what people think of this. IMHO, writing
>>>> articles is one very important part of building a community for a
>>>> project. However, we don't pay committers or contributors for writing
>>>> code, reporting bugs, writing documentation, answering newsgroup
>>>> postings, etc, other very important tasks for building a project
>>>> community. Therefore, I am not sure why writing articles is anything
>>>> different.
>>>>
>>>> Another way to look at it, is that it is goodness to have Eclipse
>>>> articles published on places like onjava, infoq, javalobby, sd times,
>>>> eclipse magazin, etc. etc. Provides more exposure for Eclipse.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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