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Dali/WTP/DTP integration roadmap. [message #433996] Thu, 10 August 2006 13:46 Go to next message
John O'Shea is currently offline John O'SheaFriend
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Registered: July 2009
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Hi all,
I was wondering if someone could help us understand the Dali & WTP
migration roadmaps with respect to adapting DTP.

Looking at the Dali 1.0 plan (1) (and the planning meeting minutes
pages it links to) it looks like Dali plans to have migrated onto DTP
for your M1 release in September. Does this mean Dali will

The WTP 2.0 plan (2) also mentions a two phase approach to adapting
DTP. We are wondering what the status of Phase 1 of this work is and if
anyone has a swag estimate on when it might appear in a milestone
release? Also, will RDB be completely removed once that migration is
complete or is there a plan to support both frameworks for a period of time?

Lastly, is the Dali migration dependent on the above WTP migration
effort in any way?

Any info would help greatly with our own planning, thanks.

John.

(1)http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Dali_1.0_planning
(2) http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php?title=Web_Tools_Requiremen ts_2.0#DTP
Re: Dali/WTP/DTP integration roadmap. [message #433997 is a reply to message #433996] Mon, 14 August 2006 18:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil Hauge is currently offline Neil HaugeFriend
Messages: 470
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi John,

I think your first question was cut-off somehow. We do still plan to
migrate to DTP by our first milestone. We are attempting to align
ourselves with the WTP Milestone plan, so I'm not sure exactly when this
milestone will be at this point, although we assume it will be somewhere
in the late September- October time frame.

Regarding the WTP 2.0 plan, most of the internal, WTP related dependencies
on RDB are actually in the JPA (Dali) component. Again, the goal is to
complete this phase 1 work by our M1 build.

I don't believe that the RDB component is going to be completely removed
from WTP right away. There will be some transition time where both are
available. I can inquire about this to see if there is more information
on when the RDB component might be removed from WTP.

The Dali migration is very tied to the WTP migration, due to the fact that
we are a large part of this overall process. We will also dependend on
the WTP build process being updated to support DTP usage.

Let me know if you have further questions on this or need clarification.

Neil


John O'Shea wrote:

> Hi all,
> I was wondering if someone could help us understand the Dali & WTP
> migration roadmaps with respect to adapting DTP.

> Looking at the Dali 1.0 plan (1) (and the planning meeting minutes
> pages it links to) it looks like Dali plans to have migrated onto DTP
> for your M1 release in September. Does this mean Dali will

> The WTP 2.0 plan (2) also mentions a two phase approach to adapting
> DTP. We are wondering what the status of Phase 1 of this work is and if
> anyone has a swag estimate on when it might appear in a milestone
> release? Also, will RDB be completely removed once that migration is
> complete or is there a plan to support both frameworks for a period of time?

> Lastly, is the Dali migration dependent on the above WTP migration
> effort in any way?

> Any info would help greatly with our own planning, thanks.

> John.

> (1)http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Dali_1.0_planning
> (2) http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php?title=Web_Tools_Requiremen ts_2.0#DTP
Re: Dali/WTP/DTP integration roadmap. [message #433999 is a reply to message #433997] Tue, 15 August 2006 10:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John O'Shea is currently offline John O'SheaFriend
Messages: 43
Registered: July 2009
Member
Neil,
Thanks for the answers, very informative. Will the JPA plugins be
packaged as a separate feature, thereby localizing the dependency on DTP?

John.

Neil Hauge wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> I think your first question was cut-off somehow. We do still plan to
> migrate to DTP by our first milestone. We are attempting to align
> ourselves with the WTP Milestone plan, so I'm not sure exactly when this
> milestone will be at this point, although we assume it will be somewhere
> in the late September- October time frame.
> Regarding the WTP 2.0 plan, most of the internal, WTP related
> dependencies on RDB are actually in the JPA (Dali) component. Again,
> the goal is to complete this phase 1 work by our M1 build.
>
> I don't believe that the RDB component is going to be completely removed
> from WTP right away. There will be some transition time where both are
> available. I can inquire about this to see if there is more information
> on when the RDB component might be removed from WTP.
>
> The Dali migration is very tied to the WTP migration, due to the fact
> that we are a large part of this overall process. We will also
> dependend on the WTP build process being updated to support DTP usage.
>
> Let me know if you have further questions on this or need clarification.
>
> Neil
>
>
> John O'Shea wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I was wondering if someone could help us understand the Dali & WTP
>> migration roadmaps with respect to adapting DTP.
>
>> Looking at the Dali 1.0 plan (1) (and the planning meeting minutes
>> pages it links to) it looks like Dali plans to have migrated onto DTP
>> for your M1 release in September. Does this mean Dali will
>
>> The WTP 2.0 plan (2) also mentions a two phase approach to
>> adapting DTP. We are wondering what the status of Phase 1 of this
>> work is and if anyone has a swag estimate on when it might appear in a
>> milestone release? Also, will RDB be completely removed once that
>> migration is complete or is there a plan to support both frameworks
>> for a period of time?
>
>> Lastly, is the Dali migration dependent on the above WTP migration
>> effort in any way?
>
>> Any info would help greatly with our own planning, thanks.
>
>> John.
>
>> (1)http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Dali_1.0_planning
>> (2) http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php?title=Web_Tools_Requiremen ts_2.0#DTP
>
>
Re: Dali/WTP/DTP integration roadmap. [message #434003 is a reply to message #433999] Tue, 15 August 2006 22:18 Go to previous message
Neil Hauge is currently offline Neil HaugeFriend
Messages: 470
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
It appears that the WTP 2.0 M1 is actually going to be sooner than I
anticipated. As a result, we probably won't be fully migrated to DTP by
M1. This doesn't change the dates drastically though. I expect that the
migration will be complete in September, and available in the M2 build,
likely sometime in October.

The JPA plugins will continue to be packaged as a separate feature,
although I'm not certain this will completely localize the dependency.

Neil

John O'Shea wrote:

> Neil,
> Thanks for the answers, very informative. Will the JPA plugins be
> packaged as a separate feature, thereby localizing the dependency on DTP?

> John.
Re: Dali/WTP/DTP integration roadmap. [message #589011 is a reply to message #433996] Mon, 14 August 2006 18:01 Go to previous message
Neil Hauge is currently offline Neil HaugeFriend
Messages: 470
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi John,

I think your first question was cut-off somehow. We do still plan to
migrate to DTP by our first milestone. We are attempting to align
ourselves with the WTP Milestone plan, so I'm not sure exactly when this
milestone will be at this point, although we assume it will be somewhere
in the late September- October time frame.

Regarding the WTP 2.0 plan, most of the internal, WTP related dependencies
on RDB are actually in the JPA (Dali) component. Again, the goal is to
complete this phase 1 work by our M1 build.

I don't believe that the RDB component is going to be completely removed
from WTP right away. There will be some transition time where both are
available. I can inquire about this to see if there is more information
on when the RDB component might be removed from WTP.

The Dali migration is very tied to the WTP migration, due to the fact that
we are a large part of this overall process. We will also dependend on
the WTP build process being updated to support DTP usage.

Let me know if you have further questions on this or need clarification.

Neil


John O'Shea wrote:

> Hi all,
> I was wondering if someone could help us understand the Dali & WTP
> migration roadmaps with respect to adapting DTP.

> Looking at the Dali 1.0 plan (1) (and the planning meeting minutes
> pages it links to) it looks like Dali plans to have migrated onto DTP
> for your M1 release in September. Does this mean Dali will

> The WTP 2.0 plan (2) also mentions a two phase approach to adapting
> DTP. We are wondering what the status of Phase 1 of this work is and if
> anyone has a swag estimate on when it might appear in a milestone
> release? Also, will RDB be completely removed once that migration is
> complete or is there a plan to support both frameworks for a period of time?

> Lastly, is the Dali migration dependent on the above WTP migration
> effort in any way?

> Any info would help greatly with our own planning, thanks.

> John.

> (1)http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Dali_1.0_planning
> (2) http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php?title=Web_Tools_Requiremen ts_2.0#DTP
Re: Dali/WTP/DTP integration roadmap. [message #589018 is a reply to message #433997] Tue, 15 August 2006 10:03 Go to previous message
John O'Shea is currently offline John O'SheaFriend
Messages: 43
Registered: July 2009
Member
Neil,
Thanks for the answers, very informative. Will the JPA plugins be
packaged as a separate feature, thereby localizing the dependency on DTP?

John.

Neil Hauge wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> I think your first question was cut-off somehow. We do still plan to
> migrate to DTP by our first milestone. We are attempting to align
> ourselves with the WTP Milestone plan, so I'm not sure exactly when this
> milestone will be at this point, although we assume it will be somewhere
> in the late September- October time frame.
> Regarding the WTP 2.0 plan, most of the internal, WTP related
> dependencies on RDB are actually in the JPA (Dali) component. Again,
> the goal is to complete this phase 1 work by our M1 build.
>
> I don't believe that the RDB component is going to be completely removed
> from WTP right away. There will be some transition time where both are
> available. I can inquire about this to see if there is more information
> on when the RDB component might be removed from WTP.
>
> The Dali migration is very tied to the WTP migration, due to the fact
> that we are a large part of this overall process. We will also
> dependend on the WTP build process being updated to support DTP usage.
>
> Let me know if you have further questions on this or need clarification.
>
> Neil
>
>
> John O'Shea wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I was wondering if someone could help us understand the Dali & WTP
>> migration roadmaps with respect to adapting DTP.
>
>> Looking at the Dali 1.0 plan (1) (and the planning meeting minutes
>> pages it links to) it looks like Dali plans to have migrated onto DTP
>> for your M1 release in September. Does this mean Dali will
>
>> The WTP 2.0 plan (2) also mentions a two phase approach to
>> adapting DTP. We are wondering what the status of Phase 1 of this
>> work is and if anyone has a swag estimate on when it might appear in a
>> milestone release? Also, will RDB be completely removed once that
>> migration is complete or is there a plan to support both frameworks
>> for a period of time?
>
>> Lastly, is the Dali migration dependent on the above WTP migration
>> effort in any way?
>
>> Any info would help greatly with our own planning, thanks.
>
>> John.
>
>> (1)http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Dali_1.0_planning
>> (2) http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php?title=Web_Tools_Requiremen ts_2.0#DTP
>
>
Re: Dali/WTP/DTP integration roadmap. [message #589040 is a reply to message #433999] Tue, 15 August 2006 22:18 Go to previous message
Neil Hauge is currently offline Neil HaugeFriend
Messages: 470
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
It appears that the WTP 2.0 M1 is actually going to be sooner than I
anticipated. As a result, we probably won't be fully migrated to DTP by
M1. This doesn't change the dates drastically though. I expect that the
migration will be complete in September, and available in the M2 build,
likely sometime in October.

The JPA plugins will continue to be packaged as a separate feature,
although I'm not certain this will completely localize the dependency.

Neil

John O'Shea wrote:

> Neil,
> Thanks for the answers, very informative. Will the JPA plugins be
> packaged as a separate feature, thereby localizing the dependency on DTP?

> John.
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