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eEMF on eRCP [message #398873] Thu, 30 July 2009 03:55 Go to next message
Stephen Egan is currently offline Stephen EganFriend
Messages: 21
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Hi,

I have come across Ed Merk's blog posting on getting EMF up and running
on eRCP. I've downloaded the attachments from the related bug
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=215378 and had a go
getting things to run, with no success. The posted code is a bit old,
so there is no great surprise there.

What I was wondering is if there is any recent activity or interest in
getting EMF to run on eRCP? Along with EMF on RAP, this would be a
great addition to the ecosystem.

Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Stephen
Re: eEMF on eRCP [message #419789 is a reply to message #398873] Thu, 30 July 2009 11:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gorkem Ercan is currently offline Gorkem ErcanFriend
Messages: 166
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Stephen,
Unfortunately I have not seen any activity around mobile EMF since Ed's original post. EMF would be a good technology to enable for eRCP however size is a concern so probably it would be an optional part of the eRCP runtime for the time being,
--
Gorkem
Re: eEMF on eRCP [message #428079 is a reply to message #398873] Thu, 30 July 2009 14:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed MerksFriend
Messages: 26287
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Stephen,

I've not done anything with that patch since the initial effort. I just
don't have the capacity to maintain more stuff so there would need to be
folks willing to make a long term commitment to support and maintain
what's needed... RAP especially has changed quite a bit, i.e., more of
what EMF needs is supported now so less of the framework needs to be
deleted...


Stephen Egan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have come across Ed Merk's blog posting on getting EMF up and
> running on eRCP. I've downloaded the attachments from the related bug
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=215378 and had a go
> getting things to run, with no success. The posted code is a bit old,
> so there is no great surprise there.
>
> What I was wondering is if there is any recent activity or interest in
> getting EMF to run on eRCP? Along with EMF on RAP, this would be a
> great addition to the ecosystem.
>
> Any info would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Stephen
Re: eEMF on eRCP [message #434498 is a reply to message #428079] Thu, 30 July 2009 19:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gorkem Ercan is currently offline Gorkem ErcanFriend
Messages: 61
Registered: July 2009
Member
I am afraid eRCP has not taken in too much. Unlike RAP size is a major
issue for eRCP.
--
Gorkem

Ed Merks wrote:
> Stephen,
>
> I've not done anything with that patch since the initial effort. I just
> don't have the capacity to maintain more stuff so there would need to be
> folks willing to make a long term commitment to support and maintain
> what's needed... RAP especially has changed quite a bit, i.e., more of
> what EMF needs is supported now so less of the framework needs to be
> deleted...
>
>
> Stephen Egan wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have come across Ed Merk's blog posting on getting EMF up and
>> running on eRCP. I've downloaded the attachments from the related bug
>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=215378 and had a go
>> getting things to run, with no success. The posted code is a bit old,
>> so there is no great surprise there.
>>
>> What I was wondering is if there is any recent activity or interest in
>> getting EMF to run on eRCP? Along with EMF on RAP, this would be a
>> great addition to the ecosystem.
>>
>> Any info would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Stephen
Re: eEMF on eRCP [message #436592 is a reply to message #434498] Thu, 30 July 2009 23:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Stephen Egan is currently offline Stephen EganFriend
Messages: 21
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Thanks for the update.

//Stephen

Gorkem Ercan wrote:
> I am afraid eRCP has not taken in too much. Unlike RAP size is a major
> issue for eRCP.
> --
> Gorkem
>
> Ed Merks wrote:
>> Stephen,
>>
>> I've not done anything with that patch since the initial effort. I
>> just don't have the capacity to maintain more stuff so there would
>> need to be folks willing to make a long term commitment to support and
>> maintain what's needed... RAP especially has changed quite a bit,
>> i.e., more of what EMF needs is supported now so less of the framework
>> needs to be deleted...
>>
>>
>> Stephen Egan wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have come across Ed Merk's blog posting on getting EMF up and
>>> running on eRCP. I've downloaded the attachments from the related
>>> bug https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=215378 and had a go
>>> getting things to run, with no success. The posted code is a bit
>>> old, so there is no great surprise there.
>>>
>>> What I was wondering is if there is any recent activity or interest
>>> in getting EMF to run on eRCP? Along with EMF on RAP, this would be
>>> a great addition to the ecosystem.
>>>
>>> Any info would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Stephen
Re: eEMF on eRCP [message #442246 is a reply to message #428079] Fri, 31 July 2009 12:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Benjamin Muskalla is currently offline Benjamin MuskallaFriend
Messages: 338
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Ed, I really hope to get some time again to play again with EMF+RAP.
Using the EMF runtime in RAP is no problem at all (see our RAP/E4[1]
effort - the whole workbench is modeled and also works as RAP
application). The only part left is to get RAP to a point that all
generated editors etc work out of the box on RAP. With the new cell
editor support this gets even more interesting.
As I said, I'd be really interested in that topic but as don't have the
time either. But in my eyes this is a great topic for contributors.
For contributors, see also
http://ed-merks.blogspot.com/2008/01/emf-and-rap-go-great-to gether-too.html
and
http://wiki.eclipse.org/EMF_Editor_goes_RAP

[1] http://wiki.eclipse.org/E4/RAP_Integration/Experimental

Cheers
Ben

Ed Merks wrote:
> Stephen,
>
> I've not done anything with that patch since the initial effort. I just
> don't have the capacity to maintain more stuff so there would need to be
> folks willing to make a long term commitment to support and maintain
> what's needed... RAP especially has changed quite a bit, i.e., more of
> what EMF needs is supported now so less of the framework needs to be
> deleted...
>
>
> Stephen Egan wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have come across Ed Merk's blog posting on getting EMF up and
>> running on eRCP. I've downloaded the attachments from the related bug
>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=215378 and had a go
>> getting things to run, with no success. The posted code is a bit old,
>> so there is no great surprise there.
>>
>> What I was wondering is if there is any recent activity or interest in
>> getting EMF to run on eRCP? Along with EMF on RAP, this would be a
>> great addition to the ecosystem.
>>
>> Any info would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Stephen


--
Benjamin Muskalla | EclipseSource Karlsruhe
http://www.eclipsesource.com | http://twitter.com/eclipsesource
Re: eEMF on eRCP [message #443515 is a reply to message #442246] Fri, 31 July 2009 14:48 Go to previous message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed MerksFriend
Messages: 26287
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Benjamin,

Yes, I think the EMF RAP combination is very interesting and with the
excellent progress on supporting things like cell editors leaves very
few issues outstanding. I do hope to find some time during the new
release cycle for this, but as you say, it's an excellent opportunity
for community contribution too...

Cheers,
Ed


Benjamin Muskalla wrote:
> Ed, I really hope to get some time again to play again with EMF+RAP.
> Using the EMF runtime in RAP is no problem at all (see our RAP/E4[1]
> effort - the whole workbench is modeled and also works as RAP
> application). The only part left is to get RAP to a point that all
> generated editors etc work out of the box on RAP. With the new cell
> editor support this gets even more interesting.
> As I said, I'd be really interested in that topic but as don't have
> the time either. But in my eyes this is a great topic for contributors.
> For contributors, see also
> http://ed-merks.blogspot.com/2008/01/emf-and-rap-go-great-to gether-too.html
>
> and
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/EMF_Editor_goes_RAP
>
> [1] http://wiki.eclipse.org/E4/RAP_Integration/Experimental
>
> Cheers
> Ben
>
> Ed Merks wrote:
>> Stephen,
>>
>> I've not done anything with that patch since the initial effort. I
>> just don't have the capacity to maintain more stuff so there would
>> need to be folks willing to make a long term commitment to support
>> and maintain what's needed... RAP especially has changed quite a
>> bit, i.e., more of what EMF needs is supported now so less of the
>> framework needs to be deleted...
>>
>>
>> Stephen Egan wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have come across Ed Merk's blog posting on getting EMF up and
>>> running on eRCP. I've downloaded the attachments from the related
>>> bug https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=215378 and had a
>>> go getting things to run, with no success. The posted code is a bit
>>> old, so there is no great surprise there.
>>>
>>> What I was wondering is if there is any recent activity or interest
>>> in getting EMF to run on eRCP? Along with EMF on RAP, this would be
>>> a great addition to the ecosystem.
>>>
>>> Any info would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Stephen
>
>
Re: eEMF on eRCP [message #563411 is a reply to message #398873] Thu, 30 July 2009 11:45 Go to previous message
Gorkem Ercan is currently offline Gorkem ErcanFriend
Messages: 166
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Stephen,
Unfortunately I have not seen any activity around mobile EMF since Ed's original post. EMF would be a good technology to enable for eRCP however size is a concern so probably it would be an optional part of the eRCP runtime for the time being,
--
Gorkem
Re: eEMF on eRCP [message #563429 is a reply to message #398873] Thu, 30 July 2009 14:24 Go to previous message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed MerksFriend
Messages: 26287
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Stephen,

I've not done anything with that patch since the initial effort. I just
don't have the capacity to maintain more stuff so there would need to be
folks willing to make a long term commitment to support and maintain
what's needed... RAP especially has changed quite a bit, i.e., more of
what EMF needs is supported now so less of the framework needs to be
deleted...


Stephen Egan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have come across Ed Merk's blog posting on getting EMF up and
> running on eRCP. I've downloaded the attachments from the related bug
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=215378 and had a go
> getting things to run, with no success. The posted code is a bit old,
> so there is no great surprise there.
>
> What I was wondering is if there is any recent activity or interest in
> getting EMF to run on eRCP? Along with EMF on RAP, this would be a
> great addition to the ecosystem.
>
> Any info would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Stephen
Re: eEMF on eRCP [message #563454 is a reply to message #428079] Thu, 30 July 2009 19:42 Go to previous message
Gorkem Ercan is currently offline Gorkem ErcanFriend
Messages: 61
Registered: July 2009
Member
I am afraid eRCP has not taken in too much. Unlike RAP size is a major
issue for eRCP.
--
Gorkem

Ed Merks wrote:
> Stephen,
>
> I've not done anything with that patch since the initial effort. I just
> don't have the capacity to maintain more stuff so there would need to be
> folks willing to make a long term commitment to support and maintain
> what's needed... RAP especially has changed quite a bit, i.e., more of
> what EMF needs is supported now so less of the framework needs to be
> deleted...
>
>
> Stephen Egan wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have come across Ed Merk's blog posting on getting EMF up and
>> running on eRCP. I've downloaded the attachments from the related bug
>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=215378 and had a go
>> getting things to run, with no success. The posted code is a bit old,
>> so there is no great surprise there.
>>
>> What I was wondering is if there is any recent activity or interest in
>> getting EMF to run on eRCP? Along with EMF on RAP, this would be a
>> great addition to the ecosystem.
>>
>> Any info would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Stephen
Re: eEMF on eRCP [message #563478 is a reply to message #434498] Thu, 30 July 2009 23:46 Go to previous message
Stephen Egan is currently offline Stephen EganFriend
Messages: 21
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Thanks for the update.

//Stephen

Gorkem Ercan wrote:
> I am afraid eRCP has not taken in too much. Unlike RAP size is a major
> issue for eRCP.
> --
> Gorkem
>
> Ed Merks wrote:
>> Stephen,
>>
>> I've not done anything with that patch since the initial effort. I
>> just don't have the capacity to maintain more stuff so there would
>> need to be folks willing to make a long term commitment to support and
>> maintain what's needed... RAP especially has changed quite a bit,
>> i.e., more of what EMF needs is supported now so less of the framework
>> needs to be deleted...
>>
>>
>> Stephen Egan wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have come across Ed Merk's blog posting on getting EMF up and
>>> running on eRCP. I've downloaded the attachments from the related
>>> bug https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=215378 and had a go
>>> getting things to run, with no success. The posted code is a bit
>>> old, so there is no great surprise there.
>>>
>>> What I was wondering is if there is any recent activity or interest
>>> in getting EMF to run on eRCP? Along with EMF on RAP, this would be
>>> a great addition to the ecosystem.
>>>
>>> Any info would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Stephen
Re: eEMF on eRCP [message #563495 is a reply to message #428079] Fri, 31 July 2009 12:36 Go to previous message
Benjamin Muskalla is currently offline Benjamin MuskallaFriend
Messages: 338
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Ed, I really hope to get some time again to play again with EMF+RAP.
Using the EMF runtime in RAP is no problem at all (see our RAP/E4[1]
effort - the whole workbench is modeled and also works as RAP
application). The only part left is to get RAP to a point that all
generated editors etc work out of the box on RAP. With the new cell
editor support this gets even more interesting.
As I said, I'd be really interested in that topic but as don't have the
time either. But in my eyes this is a great topic for contributors.
For contributors, see also
http://ed-merks.blogspot.com/2008/01/emf-and-rap-go-great-to gether-too.html
and
http://wiki.eclipse.org/EMF_Editor_goes_RAP

[1] http://wiki.eclipse.org/E4/RAP_Integration/Experimental

Cheers
Ben

Ed Merks wrote:
> Stephen,
>
> I've not done anything with that patch since the initial effort. I just
> don't have the capacity to maintain more stuff so there would need to be
> folks willing to make a long term commitment to support and maintain
> what's needed... RAP especially has changed quite a bit, i.e., more of
> what EMF needs is supported now so less of the framework needs to be
> deleted...
>
>
> Stephen Egan wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have come across Ed Merk's blog posting on getting EMF up and
>> running on eRCP. I've downloaded the attachments from the related bug
>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=215378 and had a go
>> getting things to run, with no success. The posted code is a bit old,
>> so there is no great surprise there.
>>
>> What I was wondering is if there is any recent activity or interest in
>> getting EMF to run on eRCP? Along with EMF on RAP, this would be a
>> great addition to the ecosystem.
>>
>> Any info would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Stephen


--
Benjamin Muskalla | EclipseSource Karlsruhe
http://www.eclipsesource.com | http://twitter.com/eclipsesource
Re: eEMF on eRCP [message #563512 is a reply to message #442246] Fri, 31 July 2009 14:48 Go to previous message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed MerksFriend
Messages: 26287
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Benjamin,

Yes, I think the EMF RAP combination is very interesting and with the
excellent progress on supporting things like cell editors leaves very
few issues outstanding. I do hope to find some time during the new
release cycle for this, but as you say, it's an excellent opportunity
for community contribution too...

Cheers,
Ed


Benjamin Muskalla wrote:
> Ed, I really hope to get some time again to play again with EMF+RAP.
> Using the EMF runtime in RAP is no problem at all (see our RAP/E4[1]
> effort - the whole workbench is modeled and also works as RAP
> application). The only part left is to get RAP to a point that all
> generated editors etc work out of the box on RAP. With the new cell
> editor support this gets even more interesting.
> As I said, I'd be really interested in that topic but as don't have
> the time either. But in my eyes this is a great topic for contributors.
> For contributors, see also
> http://ed-merks.blogspot.com/2008/01/emf-and-rap-go-great-to gether-too.html
>
> and
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/EMF_Editor_goes_RAP
>
> [1] http://wiki.eclipse.org/E4/RAP_Integration/Experimental
>
> Cheers
> Ben
>
> Ed Merks wrote:
>> Stephen,
>>
>> I've not done anything with that patch since the initial effort. I
>> just don't have the capacity to maintain more stuff so there would
>> need to be folks willing to make a long term commitment to support
>> and maintain what's needed... RAP especially has changed quite a
>> bit, i.e., more of what EMF needs is supported now so less of the
>> framework needs to be deleted...
>>
>>
>> Stephen Egan wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have come across Ed Merk's blog posting on getting EMF up and
>>> running on eRCP. I've downloaded the attachments from the related
>>> bug https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=215378 and had a
>>> go getting things to run, with no success. The posted code is a bit
>>> old, so there is no great surprise there.
>>>
>>> What I was wondering is if there is any recent activity or interest
>>> in getting EMF to run on eRCP? Along with EMF on RAP, this would be
>>> a great addition to the ecosystem.
>>>
>>> Any info would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Stephen
>
>
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