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MDA support? [message #377142] Thu, 25 May 2006 23:02 Go to next message
Srgjan Srepfler is currently offline Srgjan Srepfler
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Will there be some effort so that the tools interoperate well with MDA
driven tools like AndroMDA? (http://www.andromda.org/)
Srgjan
Re: MDA support? [message #377146 is a reply to message #377142] Fri, 26 May 2006 11:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed Merks
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Srgjan,

I'm not sure what that effort would involve? I.e., will they use UML2
or be saving UML resources in standard XMI format? The website claims
to be working on Eclipse integration, so maybe this question would be a
good question to ask them. If they have specific needs to support
integration and interoperation we can certainly try to address those,
but at this point, I don't know of any needs in this regard.


Srgjan Srepfler wrote:
> Will there be some effort so that the tools interoperate well with MDA
> driven tools like AndroMDA? (http://www.andromda.org/)
> Srgjan
Re: MDA support? [message #377149 is a reply to message #377146] Fri, 26 May 2006 13:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Srgjan Srepfler is currently offline Srgjan Srepfler
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Ed Merks wrote:
> Srgjan,
>
> I'm not sure what that effort would involve? I.e., will they use UML2
> or be saving UML resources in standard XMI format? The website claims
> to be working on Eclipse integration, so maybe this question would be a
> good question to ask them. If they have specific needs to support
> integration and interoperation we can certainly try to address those,
> but at this point, I don't know of any needs in this regard.
>
>
> Srgjan Srepfler wrote:
>> Will there be some effort so that the tools interoperate well with MDA
>> driven tools like AndroMDA? (http://www.andromda.org/)
>> Srgjan
It was more a question on whether and how you would test what you
produce. Of course you need produce standard XMI but if no one can
consume it that might hinder acceptance. I think best thing would be if
you take 3-4 major mda frameworks and make automated tests that you
publish. That way you create a feedback loop with the frameworks that
then strive to integrate themselves with you better so you gather
audience. Frameworks that innovate get on the list, those that are stale
get dropped. It should bring interest just like the New and noteworthy
stuff.
Cheers
Re: MDA support? [message #377152 is a reply to message #377149] Fri, 26 May 2006 13:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed Merks
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Registered: July 2009
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Srgjan,

Such a community effort requires involvement from the community, so I
would look to the community members wishing to integrate and inter
operate to provide such tests and the associated feedback. We would
welcome such an effort...


Srgjan Srepfler wrote:
> Ed Merks wrote:
>> Srgjan,
>>
>> I'm not sure what that effort would involve? I.e., will they use
>> UML2 or be saving UML resources in standard XMI format? The website
>> claims to be working on Eclipse integration, so maybe this question
>> would be a good question to ask them. If they have specific needs to
>> support integration and interoperation we can certainly try to
>> address those, but at this point, I don't know of any needs in this
>> regard.
>>
>>
>> Srgjan Srepfler wrote:
>>> Will there be some effort so that the tools interoperate well with
>>> MDA driven tools like AndroMDA? (http://www.andromda.org/)
>>> Srgjan
> It was more a question on whether and how you would test what you
> produce. Of course you need produce standard XMI but if no one can
> consume it that might hinder acceptance. I think best thing would be
> if you take 3-4 major mda frameworks and make automated tests that you
> publish. That way you create a feedback loop with the frameworks that
> then strive to integrate themselves with you better so you gather
> audience. Frameworks that innovate get on the list, those that are
> stale get dropped. It should bring interest just like the New and
> noteworthy stuff.
> Cheers
Re: MDA support? [message #377181 is a reply to message #377149] Wed, 07 June 2006 10:02 Go to previous message
Stephane LACRAMPE is currently offline Stephane LACRAMPE
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Junior Member
Also, this is one of the goals of the eclipse Mddi project : "The MDDi
project produces an extensible framework and exemplary tools dedicated
to integration of modeling tools in Eclipse".

We are facing the same kinds of issues with the Acceleo project and we
have had to developed a standalone bridge from MOF/JMI (through MDR) to
EMF, but we are expecting a lot from this Mddi project.


Regards
Stéphane LACRAMPE


Srgjan Srepfler a écrit :
> Ed Merks wrote:
>> Srgjan,
>>
>> I'm not sure what that effort would involve? I.e., will they use UML2
>> or be saving UML resources in standard XMI format? The website claims
>> to be working on Eclipse integration, so maybe this question would be
>> a good question to ask them. If they have specific needs to support
>> integration and interoperation we can certainly try to address those,
>> but at this point, I don't know of any needs in this regard.
>>
>>
>> Srgjan Srepfler wrote:
>>> Will there be some effort so that the tools interoperate well with
>>> MDA driven tools like AndroMDA? (http://www.andromda.org/)
>>> Srgjan
> It was more a question on whether and how you would test what you
> produce. Of course you need produce standard XMI but if no one can
> consume it that might hinder acceptance. I think best thing would be if
> you take 3-4 major mda frameworks and make automated tests that you
> publish. That way you create a feedback loop with the frameworks that
> then strive to integrate themselves with you better so you gather
> audience. Frameworks that innovate get on the list, those that are stale
> get dropped. It should bring interest just like the New and noteworthy
> stuff.
> Cheers
Re: MDA support? [message #572934 is a reply to message #377142] Fri, 26 May 2006 11:09 Go to previous message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed Merks
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Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Srgjan,

I'm not sure what that effort would involve? I.e., will they use UML2
or be saving UML resources in standard XMI format? The website claims
to be working on Eclipse integration, so maybe this question would be a
good question to ask them. If they have specific needs to support
integration and interoperation we can certainly try to address those,
but at this point, I don't know of any needs in this regard.


Srgjan Srepfler wrote:
> Will there be some effort so that the tools interoperate well with MDA
> driven tools like AndroMDA? (http://www.andromda.org/)
> Srgjan
Re: MDA support? [message #572970 is a reply to message #377146] Fri, 26 May 2006 13:45 Go to previous message
Srgjan Srepfler is currently offline Srgjan Srepfler
Messages: 33
Registered: July 2009
Member
Ed Merks wrote:
> Srgjan,
>
> I'm not sure what that effort would involve? I.e., will they use UML2
> or be saving UML resources in standard XMI format? The website claims
> to be working on Eclipse integration, so maybe this question would be a
> good question to ask them. If they have specific needs to support
> integration and interoperation we can certainly try to address those,
> but at this point, I don't know of any needs in this regard.
>
>
> Srgjan Srepfler wrote:
>> Will there be some effort so that the tools interoperate well with MDA
>> driven tools like AndroMDA? (http://www.andromda.org/)
>> Srgjan
It was more a question on whether and how you would test what you
produce. Of course you need produce standard XMI but if no one can
consume it that might hinder acceptance. I think best thing would be if
you take 3-4 major mda frameworks and make automated tests that you
publish. That way you create a feedback loop with the frameworks that
then strive to integrate themselves with you better so you gather
audience. Frameworks that innovate get on the list, those that are stale
get dropped. It should bring interest just like the New and noteworthy
stuff.
Cheers
Re: MDA support? [message #573001 is a reply to message #377149] Fri, 26 May 2006 13:51 Go to previous message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed Merks
Messages: 26014
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Srgjan,

Such a community effort requires involvement from the community, so I
would look to the community members wishing to integrate and inter
operate to provide such tests and the associated feedback. We would
welcome such an effort...


Srgjan Srepfler wrote:
> Ed Merks wrote:
>> Srgjan,
>>
>> I'm not sure what that effort would involve? I.e., will they use
>> UML2 or be saving UML resources in standard XMI format? The website
>> claims to be working on Eclipse integration, so maybe this question
>> would be a good question to ask them. If they have specific needs to
>> support integration and interoperation we can certainly try to
>> address those, but at this point, I don't know of any needs in this
>> regard.
>>
>>
>> Srgjan Srepfler wrote:
>>> Will there be some effort so that the tools interoperate well with
>>> MDA driven tools like AndroMDA? (http://www.andromda.org/)
>>> Srgjan
> It was more a question on whether and how you would test what you
> produce. Of course you need produce standard XMI but if no one can
> consume it that might hinder acceptance. I think best thing would be
> if you take 3-4 major mda frameworks and make automated tests that you
> publish. That way you create a feedback loop with the frameworks that
> then strive to integrate themselves with you better so you gather
> audience. Frameworks that innovate get on the list, those that are
> stale get dropped. It should bring interest just like the New and
> noteworthy stuff.
> Cheers
Re: MDA support? [message #573443 is a reply to message #377149] Wed, 07 June 2006 10:02 Go to previous message
Stephane LACRAMPE is currently offline Stephane LACRAMPE
Messages: 28
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Also, this is one of the goals of the eclipse Mddi project : "The MDDi
project produces an extensible framework and exemplary tools dedicated
to integration of modeling tools in Eclipse".

We are facing the same kinds of issues with the Acceleo project and we
have had to developed a standalone bridge from MOF/JMI (through MDR) to
EMF, but we are expecting a lot from this Mddi project.


Regards
Stéphane LACRAMPE


Srgjan Srepfler a écrit :
> Ed Merks wrote:
>> Srgjan,
>>
>> I'm not sure what that effort would involve? I.e., will they use UML2
>> or be saving UML resources in standard XMI format? The website claims
>> to be working on Eclipse integration, so maybe this question would be
>> a good question to ask them. If they have specific needs to support
>> integration and interoperation we can certainly try to address those,
>> but at this point, I don't know of any needs in this regard.
>>
>>
>> Srgjan Srepfler wrote:
>>> Will there be some effort so that the tools interoperate well with
>>> MDA driven tools like AndroMDA? (http://www.andromda.org/)
>>> Srgjan
> It was more a question on whether and how you would test what you
> produce. Of course you need produce standard XMI but if no one can
> consume it that might hinder acceptance. I think best thing would be if
> you take 3-4 major mda frameworks and make automated tests that you
> publish. That way you create a feedback loop with the frameworks that
> then strive to integrate themselves with you better so you gather
> audience. Frameworks that innovate get on the list, those that are stale
> get dropped. It should bring interest just like the New and noteworthy
> stuff.
> Cheers
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