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[GEMS] Re: Interoperability? [message #375988]

Mon, 26 February 2007 04:46

Jean Bezivin

Messages: 38
Registered: July 2009

Member

Dear Lars,

This question seems to fall under the [GEMS] component of the GMT project:

http://www.eclipse.org/gmt/gems/

I copy this answer to the corresponding newsgroup.

The problem of interoperability of EMF models and metamodels
with other kinds of models and metamodels (i.e. GME but not only)
is a very important one.

You may find a report on an initial feasibility study
that was made some times ago in:

http://www.softmetaware.com/oopsla2005/bezivin2.pdf

Eclipse is not an island. We need to consider seriously
external models as well, by providing convenient import/export facilities.
Another example of model and metamodel
interoperability concerns Microsoft DSL Tools.

Best regards,

Jean

"Ed Merks" <merks@ca.ibm.com> a

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Re: [GEMS] Re: Interoperability? [message #376299 is a reply to message #375988]

Tue, 27 February 2007 05:49

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: ljordan.gmx.net

Lars,

On 2/26/07, Lars Jordan <lars.jordan@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de> wrote:
> Dear Jean,
>
> GEMS looks very much like what I am looking for - at least when
> looking at the project description. I have already installed it to
> give it a try.
>

Do not hesitate to contact Jules.

> > This question seems to fall under the [GEMS] component of the GMT
project:
> >
> > http://www.eclipse.org/gmt/gems/
> >
> > I copy this answer to the corresponding newsgroup.
> >
> > The problem of interoperability of EMF models and metamodels
> > with other kinds of models and metamodels (i.e. GME but not only)
> > is a very important one.
> >
> > You may find a report on an initial feasibility study
> > that was made some times ago in:
> >
> > http://www.softmetaware.com/oopsla2005/bezivin2.pdf
>
> Actually that's a paper I have already come across. It looks very
> interesting. I had a look at the first pages, then put it on my
> stack
> "ToBeRead"-Documents. When I had a look at the ATL site I found that
> the most current version targets Eclipse 3.1.2. Is that a problem or
> does it also work with newer versions of eclipse?

Yes M2M/ATL is constantly kept updated.

>
> > Eclipse is not an island. We need to consider seriously
> > external models as well, by providing convenient import/export
facilities.
> > Another example of model and metamodel
> > interoperability concerns Microsoft DSL Tools.
>
> Can you tell me if either of the two tools (GEMS or AMMA) do bridge to
> the MS/DSL MMM? Or if there exists the intention to do so?

Also a proof of feasibility in:

http://softwarefactories.com/workshops/OOPSLA-2005/Papers/Be zivin.pdf
but on a previous version of MS DSL

Should not be hard to adapt,
but currently no plans to do it.

> Thanks for your answer (also in advance).

Thanks for your interesting questions.

Best regards,

Jean

>
> regards
>
> Lars
>

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Re: [GEMS] Re: Interoperability? [message #571966 is a reply to message #375988]

Tue, 27 February 2007 05:49

Lars J.

Messages: 11
Registered: September 2009

Junior Member

Lars,

On 2/26/07, Lars Jordan <lars.jordan@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de> wrote:
> Dear Jean,
>
> GEMS looks very much like what I am looking for - at least when
> looking at the project description. I have already installed it to
> give it a try.
>

Do not hesitate to contact Jules.

> > This question seems to fall under the [GEMS] component of the GMT
project:
> >
> > http://www.eclipse.org/gmt/gems/
> >
> > I copy this answer to the corresponding newsgroup.
> >
> > The problem of interoperability of EMF models and metamodels
> > with other kinds of models and metamodels (i.e. GME but not only)
> > is a very important one.
> >
> > You may find a report on an initial feasibility study
> > that was made some times ago in:
> >
> > http://www.softmetaware.com/oopsla2005/bezivin2.pdf
>
> Actually that's a paper I have already come across. It looks very
> interesting. I had a look at the first pages, then put it on my
> stack
> "ToBeRead"-Documents. When I had a look at the ATL site I found that
> the most current version targets Eclipse 3.1.2. Is that a problem or
> does it also work with newer versions of eclipse?

Yes M2M/ATL is constantly kept updated.

>
> > Eclipse is not an island. We need to consider seriously
> > external models as well, by providing convenient import/export
facilities.
> > Another example of model and metamodel
> > interoperability concerns Microsoft DSL Tools.
>
> Can you tell me if either of the two tools (GEMS or AMMA) do bridge to
> the MS/DSL MMM? Or if there exists the intention to do so?

Also a proof of feasibility in:

http://softwarefactories.com/workshops/OOPSLA-2005/Papers/Be zivin.pdf
but on a previous version of MS DSL

Should not be hard to adapt,
but currently no plans to do it.

> Thanks for your answer (also in advance).

Thanks for your interesting questions.

Best regards,

Jean

>
> regards
>
> Lars
>

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